Alpo Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 The president of the University of Texas at San Antonio has just banned the display of the Gonzales flag and the chanting of COME AND TAKE IT. https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/texas-university-bans-come-and-take-it-chant-due-to-racial-connotations/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=20210917_FridayDigest_348&utm_campaign=/digest/texas-university-bans-come-and-take-it-chant-due-to-racial-connotations/ This is racist, and is at odds with University policy. Many students, however, continue to waive WAVE the flags and do the chant at football games. Football games? What the hell do football games have to do with Texas history and a pro gun stance? I can, vaguely, see the racism thing. The original was white people talking to Mexicans - threatening Mexicans. And sense SINCE it is a pro-gun statement, and University higher ups tend to be anti-gun, I can see behind the stupidity of the choice as to why they made it. I just don't understand why the students would be chanting a pro-gun slogan at a football game. Are the students at UTSA so stupid they don't know what it means, and think that it means "come and take the ball from us if you can"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Right. Political expression can never take place outside of a strictly political forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 But, But, But, just being University Students does not necessarily equate to being Intelligent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Gator SASS #29736 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 So if a white supremacist group hijacks and starts using the rainbow LGBTQ flag, the rainbow flag will now be a new symbol of white supremacism and be banned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Any and all flags, shirts, chants, books, etc., issued by Conservatives or white people are racist in the left wing viewpoint. This somehow includes the American flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, Smokin Gator SASS #29736 said: So if a white supremacist group hijacks and starts using the rainbow LGBTQ flag, the rainbow flag will now be a new symbol of white supremacism and be banned? Interesting concept!! Appropriate their symbols and you might disrupt their momentum!! Use their own tactics against them!! If we were to burn their flags, it would be viewed as a hate crime!! What's fair for the goose...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, Blackwater 53393 said: Interesting concept!! Appropriate their symbols and you might disrupt their momentum!! Use their own tactics against them!! If we were to burn their flags, it would be viewed as a hate crime!! What's fair for the goose...? A couple of years ago I drove through downtown Santa Rosa CA on a Friday late afternoon, on my way home from work. I saw a stage set up for some event festooned with all sorts of "Pride" flags, among them this: And I asked my self, "Why are they using the Vichy French labrys?" A bit later I saw on the FB page of one of the local politicians, don't recall if he is County Supervisor or City Council, bubbling on about the event, so I asked why a fascist flag was flying there. The outpouring of hate towards me was amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 Y'all have all missed the point. I don't care why the University president banned it. I know why he banned it. He's a liberal moron. I want to know why the students waved the flags and chanted come and take it at football games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, Alpo said: I want to know why the students waved the flags and chanted come and take it at football games. You must have missed my point in my first response. But, geee.....lots of like-minded people in one place. A place with lots of exposure and coverage. A place that a message will be seen. Yeah.....political expression makes no sense at all there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish ike, SASS #43615 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, Alpo said: I want to know why the students waved the flags and chanted come and take it at football games. It's a large gathering of people and potentially televised. So they reaching out to a much bigger audience than standing on a street corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El CupAJoe Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Now I've made two in one day! because kids will be rebels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redleg Reilly, SASS #46372 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 You need to look at the actual flag they were waving. It said come and take it but had a UTSA roadrunner on it, not the cannon barrel. The school was using that slogan as a rallying cry, not making a political statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish ike, SASS #43615 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 This is a first amendment issue. The students, Faculty and alumni have the right to freedom speech. Unless the "public" school has a policy banning any and all political commentary, flags, banners etc. the restriction is racist and violating the groups rights. The Gonzales Flag is being called racist because a bunch of "white" Texan's sent the Mexican's packing and continue to take pride in it today. Molan Labe said the same thing 2700 years ago! So is that phrase a racist comment against Persian's/middle eastern people? The University President has no ability to restrict free speech unless all free speech is restricted. Calling all attorney's. And typical Liberal mindset. We've banned it but we won't enforce it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Alpo said: I want to know why the students waved the flags and chanted come and take it at football games. They're at a football game. Their brains are in "Groupthink" mode. You know, the first setting after "Off". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Creek Law Dog Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 There is an old saying, a racist is a person who is winning an argument with a Liberal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 6 hours ago, Alpo said: just don't understand why the students would be chanting a pro-gun slogan at a football game. Are the students at UTSA so stupid they don't know what it means, and think that it means "come and take the ball from us if you can"? Even us Texans are baffled by this. 4 hours ago, Alpo said: Y'all have all missed the point. I don't care why the University president banned it. I know why he banned it. He's a liberal moron. I want to know why the students waved the flags and chanted come and take it at football games. As pointed out by Redleg Reilly they are waving this flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 UTSA stopped displaying “Come and take it” flag at football games and now faces criticism from its Board of Regents The University of Texas at San Antonio is taking heat from the UT System’s board of regents for its recent decision to stop displaying the famous “Come and take it” flag at football games after some in the university community argued the slogan has a racist history. Regents Chair Kevin Eltife said in a statement last week that he was disappointed by UTSA President Taylor Eighmy’s decision to end the six-year tradition, which included unfurling an enormous flag with the slogan across the student section during the fourth quarter of football games and firing a cannon. “The Board of Regents does not support abandoning traditions and history that mean much to students, alumni, and other Texans,” Eltife said. “I am very disappointed with this decision and will immediately ask our Board to establish policies that ensure that the governing body of the UT System will have the opportunity in the future to be consulted before important university traditions and observances are changed.” The origins of the flag, which includes the slogan and an image of a cannon under a star, stem from the Battle of Gonzales during the Texas Revolution in 1835. As the story goes, Mexican authorities loaned a small cannon to the town of Gonzales for protection from Native American tribes. When the Mexican troops asked for the return of the cannon, the people of Gonzales responded by raising a handmade flag with the words “Come and take it.” The flag has long been a symbol of Texas pride and has commonly been adopted by groups sending a message of defiance or protesting government overreach, such as Second Amendment supporters and abortion rights advocates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 I like that at the bottom, where they wanted to get rid of THE EYES OF TEXAS ARE UPON US, which got its start in a minstral show, and MAYBE was sung by white people wearing black face. MAYBE. No one was there. There are no pictures. There are no references in print. Nothing to prove that there were white people in blackface. But MAYBE there were, and that's all the evidence that is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. James H. Callahan Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 The UTSA prez needs to be fired for being an idiot. Alpo the push to get rid of the Eyes of Texas fizzled out thankfully. A number of deep pocked donors threatened to quit, and apparently their money talked loud (like UT needs more money). There would have been a legion of Texas Exes taking to the streets with torches and ropes looking to stretch some necks. I'd have been one of them! Yet another theater of the absurd. As far as UTSA goes I doubt anybody gives a rosy red rat's rump other than the students and alumni. JHC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Sheridan Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Let's face it. If you're white you're either a liberal or you're a racist. Those are the only two kinds of people in the eyes of the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 7 hours ago, Cypress Sun said: Any and all flags, shirts, chants, books, etc., issued by Conservatives or white people are racist in the left wing viewpoint. This somehow includes the American flag. And ain't that just pure unmitigated BS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.D. Daily Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 There are more vulgar chants at college football games this season. This one in particular, "F*** Joe Biden" repeated continuously. You'd think the fans in stadiums would have more respect for the President most of them helped elect. It appears they have a bad case of buyer's remorse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Gator SASS #29736 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 58 minutes ago, J.D. Daily said: There are more vulgar chants at college football games this season. This one in particular, "F*** Joe Biden" repeated continuously. You'd think the fans in stadiums would have more respect for the President most of them helped elect. It appears they have a bad case of buyer's remorse. And minimall news coverage. Again imagine how this news would be characterized if it were directed at a different president. It would be talked about on the news, all the talk shows, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 On 9/17/2021 at 8:56 AM, irish ike, SASS #43615 said: This is a first amendment issue. The students, Faculty and alumni have the right to freedom speech. Unless the "public" school has a policy banning any and all political commentary, flags, banners etc. the restriction is racist and violating the groups rights. The Gonzales Flag is being called racist because a bunch of "white" Texan's sent the Mexican's packing and continue to take pride in it today. Molan Labe said the same thing 2700 years ago! So is that phrase a racist comment against Persian's/middle eastern people? The University President has no ability to restrict free speech unless all free speech is restricted. Calling all attorney's. And typical Liberal mindset. We've banned it but we won't enforce it. You forgot the qualification. If it is hate speech it is not protected by the First Amendment. Must be true. The left defines what is hate speech and said this is covered by their defintion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish ike, SASS #43615 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: You forgot the qualification. If it is hate speech it is not protected by the First Amendment. Must be true. The left defines what is hate speech and said this is covered by their defintion. The Supreme Court said that there is no such thing as hate speech. The liberals can't accept that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Unfortunately the left only pays attention to court cases it agrees with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOLFY Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 cause they’re texas students Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/19/2021 at 5:47 PM, J.D. Daily said: You'd think the fans in stadiums would have more respect for the President most of them helped elect. It appears they have a bad case of buyer's remorse. They can't have buyers remorse for something that nobody bought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 24 minutes ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: They can't have buyers remorse for something that nobody bought. Who says he, or any politician, hasn't been bought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 41 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Who says he, or any politician, hasn't been bought? By nobody bought, I mean he did NOT win the election. It was stolen for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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