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I have a friend who found this is his dads closet and he knew I was looking for one.

 

it very hard to cycle right now due to no oil, and it still has a full length barrel. 

 

what do I need to look for in one?

what do you think of this one?

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it looks really rough , i have a weakness for things like that but i would want it free or really cheap , JM2C

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Looks to me like it's a 1893 - thus not legal for SASS.  But I don't know much about 93s or 97s.

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Not a 93, but this one has been (at one time) welded together.

 

If it isn't free or close to it, let it go.

 

WR

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Looks like somebody tried to make a take down 1897 into a fixed barrel 1897 for some reason. Very poor welding work. 

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You could sell the parts but they have been welded together.

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Why welded? Probably loose when assembled and would not stay together to fire safely. 

Would take major investment to get this one working.  IMHO.   GJ

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:ph34r:  Quality (or lack thereof) of welding brings up the question of metal strength in critical areas.  The amount of heat applied in uneven concentrations would compromise strength of receiver.

 

Wall hanger status.

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Sorry I fat fingered the title. It’s a 1897.

he hasn’t given me a price, he asked me what it was worth.

 

is there a way to test it or inspect it to see if it’s safe?

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Sir 

 

  in a nut shell , she be hurt real bad , I would NOT attempt to shoot it , 

the only test is to tie it down and fire remotely , 

hang her on the wall , she ain't worth getting hurt over 

 

  Chickasaw 

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IF it is shootable, I would not pay more than a hundred bucks for it.   Would like to see a pic of the whole thing, not just closeups.

 

That welding spot makes me wonder why it is there.  

 

And even though it looks like it's a mess, I'd still not cut the barrel.  Long barrels are cool.

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1 hour ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:

And even though it looks like it's a mess, I'd still not cut the barrel.  Long barrels are cool.

the only reason I would cut is this is for my 11 year old. That’s a lot of fun for him to hold. The one he shot was pretty short.

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Keep looking! I wouldn’t shoot this one myself! I sure as h*ll wouldn’t let my 11 year old shoot it!

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That shotgun barely qualifies as a "parts gun".

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Take a pass unless he gives it to you for a parts gun.  It appears to me that the adjustment to tighten the take down worked loose and rather than repair it properly, it was welded.  If you are going to go the Winchester 97 route, it's always good to have spare parts laying around.  No telling what type of damage the heat did.  Can't see the stock, but good stocks are hard to find.  Maybe some of the internal stuff is good too.

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Before cowboy shooting came along, folks would "fix" the magazine tube from pulling out of the extension when worn by welding it together, appears that's what's happend here.  Good luck

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It's not worth a dime and it is too dangerous to fire, especially with modern powder. I wouldn't let my 11 yo grandson anywhere near a firing line with that weapon. Please heed the advice of much more experienced people and don't take it.

 

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15 hours ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:

 

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Thanks guys. Looks like a wall hanger if anything.

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BUY THE GUN...... BUT, offer your friend $25.00 for it.   It’s good for parts but not good for either shooting or as a wall hanger.  It is just too rough, and potentially dangerous.     Now, you have some work to do. 

 

 For this shotgun to have gotten into the condition that it was in (because someone thought they could fix a loose magazine tube by welding), the shotgun would’ve had to have seen significant use.  That means, “significant wear”.

 

 You are going to have to put some time and effort into dismantling the gun, putting each part, screw, pin, in a small plastic bag and labeling it.  See if you can find a parts list and drawing for the shotgun on the Internet.  Label the parts with the part name and part number from whatever drawing you find.   Clean all the parts as you dismantle the weapon.    OK, you now have some experience in  dismantling a Winchester ‘97.

 

NOW, find an original WINCHESTER-made, Win97 in good condition and shoot that in competition.  Use the parts from this worn out piece to keep your competition shotgun running.  Or, you could sell the parts individually or in “ assemblies” on eBay.

 

Other shooters here can provide info as to what to look for when purchasing a Win97 for CAS.   You could also look for YouTube videos as well. There may be a video there that specifically gives you tips on inspecting-for-purchase a Winchester ‘97.

 

Cat Brules

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