Major BS Walker Regulator 610 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 You have 5 rifle targets R1,2,3,4,5. The stage procedure is written: with rifle engage the 5 rifle targets in this order, outside, outside, inside, inside, middle, middle, inside,inside,outside,outside. The non-gamer engages it this way, 1,5,4,2,3,3,4,2,1,5. The gamer does it this way, 1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4,5,5. Link to post Share on other sites
Brother King, SASS #69031 4 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 That's not a gamer; that's a "P". Link to post Share on other sites
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L 4,891 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 The "gamer" (by your definition, not mine) had better ask the PM or Stage Driver if that's a legal engagement...making assumptions based on one's own interpretation of the instuctions might earn one a procedural. Link to post Share on other sites
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 6,702 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Gamer and non-gamer? I'd say, shooter who understood the scenario and shooter who didn't and got a P. Link to post Share on other sites
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L 4,891 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 This one is already three to one for a "P". Link to post Share on other sites
Pit Bull Tex 136 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Make it 4 for a P Link to post Share on other sites
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 6,702 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 BTW, what does the B.S. stand for? Link to post Share on other sites
Wyatt 249 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Go ahead........I hope you are in my category. All I ask for is an honest advantage Link to post Share on other sites
Lazarus Longshot, SASS #44254 Life 0 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Non-gamer, did it right. Gamer, gets a Procedural! So we got 5 for the gamer getting a P. Laz Link to post Share on other sites
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 1,431 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Can we make that 7 for a "P". ( I added a few because I type slow). Randy Link to post Share on other sites
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L 4,891 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 BTW, what does the B.S. stand for? I'd hazard a guess at the risk of offending someone...or maybe not. Link to post Share on other sites
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 1,281 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I wish people would quit confusing the "profoundly uninformed" (I'm trying to be polite) with gamers. They are giving us gamers a bad reputation. SASS is a game. It has rules. I follow the rules therefore I am a gamer and proud of it. Link to post Share on other sites
Hoot Hamilton 17 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Assumptions are risky.......stage writer should have stated no double taps (except for the middle) "Gamer" made a creative interpretation I say clean hOOt Link to post Share on other sites
Gateway Kid SASS# 70038 Life 619 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Add me to the "procedural" camp. If stage writers intent was unclear should have been made clear at walkthrough other comments deleted :angry: Regards Gateway Kid Link to post Share on other sites
Madd Mike #8595 2 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Peeeeeeeeeeee however, I can see a certain person on the wire sayin, shucks folks, gamers just out smart the others, get a life, now that requires the stage writer ta get a lawyer or more paper from now on Link to post Share on other sites
Mud Marine,SASS#54686 Life 773 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 8 for a "P"! :-) Link to post Share on other sites
Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 1,159 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Am I too late to join the P party? Link to post Share on other sites
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L 4,891 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Yer stutterin' a bit there, Jack. Link to post Share on other sites
Most Wanted 2 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I have shot that pattern many times but the stage instructions always stated left outside right outside left inside right inside center etc. if the pattern was written exactly like the op stated I see no P. We can assume what they meant to write but they did not specify target number or left or right. But I've been wrong before. PS: I would not to have thought to shoot it that way but would bang my head if I shot it the way I always have then saw someone do it that way. Whole lot easier. Link to post Share on other sites
Mudflat Mike, SASS #20904 190 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 How's about a "P" and a brain transplant Link to post Share on other sites
Marshal TKD, Sass # 36984L 157 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 It would be a P. Link to post Share on other sites
Pulp, SASS#28319 285 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Seems to me the "gamer" followed the stage directions exactly to the letter. First shot was on an outside target, second shot was on an outside target, third shot was on an inside target etc ect. That may have not been the intent of the stage writer, but double taps were not forbidden in the directions. Link to post Share on other sites
Madd Mike #8595 2 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Seems to me the "gamer" followed the stage directions exactly to the letter. First shot was on an outside target, second shot was on an outside target, third shot was on an inside target etc ect. That may have not been the intent of the stage writer, but double taps were not forbidden in the directions. I agree to disagree intent the gamer should have simply asked the stage reader "can I" but the rest is history, now we all know, we need extra paper from now on to spell out each and every target oh well Link to post Share on other sites
Nasty Newt # 7365 357 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Seems to me the "gamer" followed the stage directions exactly to the letter. First shot was on an outside target, second shot was on an outside target, third shot was on an inside target etc ect. That may have not been the intent of the stage writer, but double taps were not forbidden in the directions.I was about to join the "P" pile-on but you've got me wobbling. Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Duncan 1,386 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Looks like the majority says a P so I'll go with 3 1/2 misses... Yea I am a bit of a Rebel.. Link to post Share on other sites
Most Wanted 2 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I agree to disagree intent the gamer should have simply asked the stage reader "can I" but the rest is history, now we all know, we need extra paper from now on to spell out each and every target oh well Maybe I missed something but where in the OP does it state that the "gamer" didn't get the ok and no P was awarded or that he simply shot it that way with no P. Seems like there is also some assuming coming from the P camp. If it was an oversight by the stage writer it could have been corrected during the stage instructions. No need for more paper. Link to post Share on other sites
Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 1,159 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I think we can all agree that, perhaps, some wording could be added to the instructions to clear some things up.... Perhaps the following: No double taps, except on the center target, unless you are left handed shooting the stage on a tuesday, then you must shoot the scenario in the reverse order. Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom, SASS #54973 4,686 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Pullllllleze...Allie....I'm having trouble holding back on this one... And I think Mr. B.S. is full of his initials... um... bye. Link to post Share on other sites
Most Wanted 2 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Pullllllleze...Allie....I'm having trouble holding back on this one... And I think Mr. B.S. is full of his initials... um... bye. Dive in. The waters just right Link to post Share on other sites
Hacker, SASS #55963 0 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I believe that both shooters got it right. The stage directions are not specific enough to make the non-gamer ONLY correct. The "gamer" is also correct. If a specific order was desired by the stage writer, it should have been made more clear. I say no P for either shooter. Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom, SASS #54973 4,686 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 The OP is saying...nuthin. Without the knowledge of whether the sequence was stated as acceptable, we can't say crap. My guess is that it wasn't...and that he's just making this up...or... If he's implying that a "Gamer" cheats, then he know zippo about this game. Either way, his OP is a waste of my time. IMHO... Link to post Share on other sites
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L 4,891 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 You have 5 rifle targets R1,2,3,4,5. The stage procedure is written: with rifle engage the 5 rifle targets in this order, outside, outside, inside, inside, middle, middle, inside,inside,outside,outside. The non-gamer engages it this way, 1,5,4,2,3,3,4,2,1,5. The gamer does it this way, 1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4,5,5. You forgot the "who gives a rats..." shooter who'd engage them: 1,5,2,4,3,3,4,2,5,1 Link to post Share on other sites
Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 1,159 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 What is the difference between the second way of shooting it and instructing them to shoot a double-tap sweep? Just askin... Link to post Share on other sites
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L 4,891 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 What is the difference between the second way of shooting it and instructing them to shoot a double-tap sweep? None...now your assignment is to go to the "Glossary of Sweeps" and find at least two names for either sequence. Link to post Share on other sites
Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 1,159 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 None...now your assignment is to go to the "Glossary of Sweeps" and find at least two names for either sequence. Darn it all. You replied before I added my winkie Link to post Share on other sites
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