Birdgun Quail, SASS #63663 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Are these mass shootings caused by: 1. 1st Amendment 2. 2nd Amendment 3. both 4. neither 5. evilness in mankind 6. all the above 7. none of the above 8. some of the above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Number 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tell Sackett SASS 18436 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 17 minutes ago, Yul Lose said: Number 5. + 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tell Sackett SASS 18436 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Plus unarmed victims helps a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyDrew42 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Just my opinion but I think something has got to be wrong in your head if you decide to go on a shooting spree. Or any other sort of violent possibly life threatening spree for that matter. Some things can't be helped, I mean if someone has a chemical imbalance or they are clinically depressed they stay on their meds, they get counseling and probably shouldn't own firearms. Then some people are just plain mean and stupid with the inability to control themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 The obvious answer is number 2 but my answer is number five. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Checotah Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 #5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Birdgun: I haven't looked at it as 'mass shootings' but rather 'mass killings'. There have been a few 'massacres by vehicles' the past couple years that are as senseless and ruthless as shooting deaths. So I've often wondered, what has caused these 'massacres by vehicles': 1. purely accidental 2. gas pedal was stuck 3. driver was drunk 4. driver failed drivers test and therefore didn't have a valid license. 5. driver was evil ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sloe Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I'm going to point a finger at Hollywood. No morals in anything produced. Then add the video games. Barry Sloe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I think that much of this has to do with the failure to assign and enforce responsibility in the upbringing of our youth! “It’s not your fault.” Is all too often the parent’s reply when little Johnny screws up!! Particularly when in fact it IS little Johnny ‘s fault!! This undercuts the learning of responsibility and sense of what is right and wrong! Been happening for WAAAAAY too long!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Black water, my friend, you again hit it on the nose. This is added to by the prospect of seeing your name in print and on the evening news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MizPete Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 What Blackwater said. When did we quit teaching our kids you can't shoot somebody just because they piss you off (can I say that on this forum)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grampaw Willie, SASS No.26996 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 that which is omitted: anti-depressant drugs. i see questions about this from time to time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 #7, none of the above. These kind of crimes were unknown before we had instant world-wide communications, instant fame. How many copy cat crimes would be committed if these mass shootings were given one line on page 5 a month after they occurred? I can’t explain why some crazies want to do what they see on the evening news, but they do. Mass killings will be with us as long as the killers get days and hours of publicity on international news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, J-BAR #18287 said: #7, none of the above. These kind of crimes were unknown before we had instant world-wide communications, instant fame. How many copy cat crimes would be committed if these mass shootings were given one line on page 5 a month after they occurred? I can’t explain why some crazies want to do what they see on the evening news, but they do. Mass killings will be with us as long as the killers get days and hours of publicity on international news. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. James H. Callahan Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 #5 sorta. Obviously not all of mankind is evil (at least to this extent). It's one of those things that is simply incomprehensible to a normal mind. The "authorities" seem to be lacking in answers as much as the rest of us. JHC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdgun Quail, SASS #63663 Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 2 hours ago, J-BAR #18287 said: #7, none of the above. These kind of crimes were unknown before we had instant world-wide communications, instant fame. How many copy cat crimes would be committed if these mass shootings were given one line on page 5 a month after they occurred? I can’t explain why some crazies want to do what they see on the evening news, but they do. Mass killings will be with us as long as the killers get days and hours of publicity on international news. Freedom of the press I believe falls under the 1st Amendment. So, now if we can just ban the 1st and 2nd Amendment we'll all be safe! (Of course, J-Bar, you know I don't believe banning any of our freedoms is an answer.) I do agree that all the publicity is contributing to copy-cat mass killings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Of course I do not advocate restrictions on the press any more than I advocate restrictions on gun ownership. Freedom is dangerous but better than the alternative. We may have to live with craziness in order to enjoy our other freedoms ... a shocking possibility to those who are convinced that government should provide absolute security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron "Ironhead" Smith Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I'm going with 5 and 9. 5 because some folks is just plain evil . 9 is mental illness, aka bat**** crazy, and short of locking them up there ain't a whole lot you can do if their friends & family can't be bothered to get them help or report them as dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Ironhead, Watch the language please. This is a Saloon in name only. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 My boss and I were talking about this the other day. He and I are political opposites but agree on many things. #5 is half of what we both agreed on. The other half was kind of up in the air. He tends to blame objects, not people, if you get my drift...until confronted with the point Widder made about cars. My point was more to do with when you have a generation’s worth of unregulated “entertainment” on cable TV pumped into people’s brains their moral compasses and their self awareness tend to be screwy in those that weren’t wrapped all that tight to begin with. Think about it, many shows available on cable now for all to see would have been “R” or even “X” rated a couple of decades ago. Did you know the first cut of Scarface (pun intended) was rated “X” for violence because of the chainsaw scene in the bathroom. They cut that scene and made the “R” rating. The stuff on cable TV now makes Scarface look tame in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 To answer your question Dantankerous, “No”. I just hid your post. No need to move it to Team SASS now. Too bad I don’t get paid for piece work...oh, wait!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sloe Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I'll add one more, that is the topic of Mental Health. It would seem that even mentioning mental health as an issue is forbidden. The U.S. would like to put blinders on and that, by itself, will make all mental health issues go away. BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 17 hours ago, J-BAR #18287 said: #7, none of the above. These kind of crimes were unknown before we had instant world-wide communications, instant fame. How many copy cat crimes would be committed if these mass shootings were given one line on page 5 a month after they occurred? I can’t explain why some crazies want to do what they see on the evening news, but they do. Mass killings will be with us as long as the killers get days and hours of publicity on international news. Around the turn of the century, journalism became a business. Rather than a Fourth Estate which was dedicated to reporting facts it became a money making, powerful force able to influence the populace by printing stories that inflamed passions, appealed to the prurient nature, and manipulated an uninformed public. It continued to deteriorate into the electronic media we have today. The 24 hour news cycle that developed during the Iran Hostage situation and then the Gulf War has continued to slam us over the head with “news” every minute of the day. Scoop the other network. Get your story out there first and loudest! Do it immediately and worry about facts later! The more viewers we have the more money from sponsors. The higher the ratings the higher our stock prices. It’s no wonder that what has resulted is a society that less sensitive, more agitated and confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 9 hours ago, Barry Sloe said: I'll add one more, that is the topic of Mental Health. It would seem that even mentioning mental health as an issue is forbidden. The U.S. would like to put blinders on and that, by itself, will make all mental health issues go away. BS +1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heckler Hinge Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 The more that a news anchor Repeats and Repeats whatever Evil has been done, the more Instant Fame the perpetrator gets. If the criminal's name was never mentioned again there would be many fewer seeking such notoriety. There used to be what were called Unspeakable Crimes, I think primarily because of the "Monkey See, Monkey Do Principal". Now, I'll divert to a slightly different topic, and climb upon my Hobby Horse: People who are suicidal, or at least are unopposed to deliberately harming themselves HAVE A SHORTAGE OF THE ELEMENT **Chromium** IN THEIR DIET. Many an antidepressant medication rapidly depletes the human body of this very necessary mineral. This knowledge may be overlooked because just Trace amounts of chromium are normally needed. Just one Chromium Picolinate pill per month will do wonders ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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