Clay Mosby Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I know I'd be pretty upset if I found this in my local paper article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I am stunned...!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Fernando Slim, SASS #20521 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 That is not the first time that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Foolery U.S.M. #2348 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 TF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Brules Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 You don't want to hear what I would do. It would all be legal, but it would be very, very ugly. This is really a declaration of war ... an idealogical and a class war. And a good definition of war is chaos. These people need to have chaos shoved down their collective throat. These smug, Socialist, elitist buttclowns hide behind the thin, tattered veil of "the press," which they have diminished into a joke. They collectively have lost any semblance of respectability, decency and responsibility and they should be made to suffer the consequences for their purposeful, mean-spirited acts and their lack of ethics and morality. They have knowingly and intentionally put decent, law-abiding citizens, many of them their own customers at risk, and they think they are safe from legal, civilized retribution. They are not. The exact same thing can legally, inexpensively and quite easily be done to them and their families, using their own playbook ... in spades ... and it should be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muleshoe Bill SASS #67022 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 The press is going to demonize every gun owner and make anyone who is not gun knowledgeable (including many owners) be afraid for their safety from the evil gun owners. This is going to be the major attack on our firearms that many didnt think would come. It is here now. Look at all the reports of shootings in the news now. Every single one is played up. Be afraid, be very very afraid for your 2nd Amendment rights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 The fact that it's been done before certainly doesn't make it right. It's outrageous! So how would it be accepted if a paper posted names and addresses of people receiving public assistance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slate mike sass#29204 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I'd bet that the burglars in town make this a list of houses to avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache Hawk 60642 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I'd bet that the burglars in town make this a list of houses to avoid. Makes perfect sense to me ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Firearms are pretty tempting loot for burglars.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache Hawk 60642 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Firearms are pretty tempting loot for burglars.... Not ifin' it's loaded an da owner is on da over in ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Mosby Posted December 25, 2012 Author Share Posted December 25, 2012 Firearms are pretty tempting loot for burglars.... That would be one of my major concerns as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T. H. O' Sullivan Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 The sad part of this is that it's totally legal. Various States and communities publish the photos, names and addresses of child molestors and sexual predators. Now in these screwed up times, just being a legal gun owner gets you singled out as some kind of deviant. This just proves that any kind of mandatory registration should be rejected. I'm in a pro-gun area but I could not live in some of these States where a handgun must be registered. At some point I think there will be some kind of backlash that these far left gun grabbers will not see coming. My right to own firearms does not come from man or any government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Ray Hality, SASS# 37355 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 If I were a bad guy, which I am not, I would now know which house is likely to be unarmed and ripe for invasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Augustus #6390 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 It was done in Memphis on their website for the newspaper. The editors and managers were upset when their addresses showed up on the web. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 How about demanding that the paper post the names, addresses, etc. of the people who DO NOT own guns. Give the bad guys a real shopping list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKFOOT SASS #11947 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 That is another downside to any form of gun registration. Blackfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Sage, SASS #49891 Life Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 That is not the first time that happened. You can bet it won't be the last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Hill, sass # 49256 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 lets consider a "what if" situation. Lets say a bad guy gets shot breaking into one of the listed houses. And it surfaces that the bad guy has targeted the house because of the list. Could the paper be held liable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 The way to attack a local newspaper is to go after their pocketbook. That means going after their big advertisers. Start a letter writing campaign to stop their big advertisers from buying their ads. Picket the store if necessary. Local Car dealerships and grocery stores are the best targets. Newspapers are dying by the dozens these days and hitting them in the wallet is the best way to get their attention. This works the best if there is another newspaper in the area to provide an alternate advertising for the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uno Mas SASS #80082 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I'd write a strong letter of protest to the paper. And I'd include a copy in letters to each of the paper's advertisers explaining why I wasn't patronizing them anymore. Hit the bastards where it hurts. Another group posted the CCW-outing editorial staff's addresses contained in public escrow, tax, and court records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Business Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 lets consider a "what if" situation. Lets say a bad guy gets shot breaking into one of the listed houses. And it surfaces that the bad guy has targeted the house because of the list. Could the paper be held liable? Then again, criminals are too lazy to hold down a job, so they take what others have worked for. Armed households present more work, and the catbox liner folks just gave them a list of houses to avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Paper burns, does it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Burglars have been known to target the unoccupied homes of gun owners. They're not all idiots. Unbelievably irresponsble act! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Well, if you don't like public disclosure laws, then be sure never to ask for public records yourself! Here the papers I assume can get the names of CPL holders; they are public records. Mine is issued by the Washington Law Enforcement Support Agency, a public agency. We don't have gun registration in this state, though. I suppose that if the newspapers printed my name among those who have a publicly-issued concealed pistol license, then people would know I have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Ray Hality, SASS# 37355 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Paper burns, does it not? That reminds me of a sort of funny story. My Mom used to work for a news paper in NYC called the Staten Island Advance. They decided to print the names and adddresses of all the organized crime members in the area. How they got the list, nobody knows. The next day, their rail yard which had 3 mox cars of blank paper in it was torched and the front door had bullet holes in it. They could not print for a day. I do not recommend or condone such a course of action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okie Sawbones, SASS #77381 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Don't reckon it would really bother me. My guns are locked in an 1100 lb. safe, except for immediate self-defense weapons. Burglars will be looking down the business end of those. When vacationing, they are locked up as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Notice to burglars: Go hit my neighbors they might be unarmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay Mosby Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 While it may be legal in the literal sense, to me it's a major invasion of privacy. My name and address? Fine, it's in the phone book. The fact that I own guns? Unless I break the law is nobody's business. We're near the edge of a neighborhood where I'd prefer my neighbors not know I'm armed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pack Saddle Slim, SASS #73122 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 This happened when we were living in Humboldt County, California. The North Coast Journal, a very liberal, leftist, tabloid, decided to do a feature article on concealed carry permits and how dangerous these permit carriers could be. The cover picture was a list of all the people in the county who had CCW's. While the gun community was livid, these liberal doo-dahs felt it was their journalistic responsibility to warn non-gun owners about their armed neighbors. Just another reason why we moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Here's today's NYTimes article about it: http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/26/a-newspaper-publishes-names-of-gun-permit-holders-sparking-outrage/?hp Our problem, if we have one, is not with this particular information so much as the storage of public information in searchable databases. But this is the great privacy problem of our times. It used to be that if you wanted to discover public information about somebody, you could, but you'd have to research, go to different county courthouses, contact you secretary of state by mail, etc. In other words, you'd have to have a real reason, and lots of time. Thus most all "public" information about individuals was really pretty private. That's all over forever, alas. Gun license or permit information is just one thing among thousands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Ray Hality, SASS# 37355 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Here's today's NYTimes article about it: http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/26/a-newspaper-publishes-names-of-gun-permit-holders-sparking-outrage/?hp Our problem, if we have one, is not with this particular information so much as the storage of public information in searchable databases. But this is the great privacy problem of our times. It used to be that if you wanted to discover public information about somebody, you could, but you'd have to research, go to different county courthouses, contact you secretary of state by mail, etc. In other words, you'd have to have a real reason, and lots of time. Thus most all "public" information about individuals was really pretty private. That's all over forever, alas. Gun license or permit information is just one thing among thousands. Yup, this thing called the internet, and well stocked and collected data bases, pretty much leave people open to visibility. You can practically choose your friends electronically, with not a lot of effort or cost. And, it is very difficult to stay "off the grid". Its almost like living in a very small community where everyone knows everything about everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Burglars have been known to target the unoccupied homes of gun owners. They're not all idiots. Unbelievably irresponsble act! Yup. I know several people that's happened to. Even know a couple people who've had their intact safes stolen. Bolt 'em down!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mean Matt McCord, SASS #24683 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 You don't want to hear what I would do. It would all be legal, but it would be very, very ugly. This is really a declaration of war ... an idealogical and a class war. And a good definition of war is chaos. These people need to have chaos shoved down their collective throat. These smug, Socialist, elitist buttclowns hide behind the thin, tattered veil of "the press," which they have diminished into a joke. They collectively have lost any semblance of respectability, decency and responsibility and they should be made to suffer the consequences for their purposeful, mean-spirited acts and their lack of ethics and morality. They have knowingly and intentionally put decent, law-abiding citizens, many of them their own customers at risk, and they think they are safe from legal, civilized retribution. They are not. The exact same thing can legally, inexpensively and quite easily be done to them and their families, using their own playbook ... in spades ... and it should be done. It already has been done, and I applaud the person who did it. Check out this news story: http://techcrunch.com/2012/12/26/journalists-addresses-posted-google-maps-gun/?icid=maing-grid7|maing8|dl2|sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D249935 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tennessee Stud, SASS# 43634 Life Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Would you like to open the paper and see your name and address Don't bother me no more. ts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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