knife laws

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[Gateway Kid SASS# 70038 Life]

Yep, plenty of crazy things regarding knives.

Anybody ever hear of BenchMade?

I have their autoimunity automatic. six weeks after getting it as last years Christmas gift, the tip broke while fitting a piece of oak into a chess set I was working on. No problem right? Lifetime warranty right? not so fast. First ANY tip damage is not covered at all, but they would fit a new blade for $140 upon return. But if you are not LEO or first responder they cannot return automatics to you, it has to go to an "authorized" service center where you can pick it up. Closest one to me..... Boise at 400 mile plus away.  Needless to say tip is still broken and this will be my last BenchMade. 

So much for EDC

Regards

    

Gateway Kid

Edited September 29 by Gateway Kid SASS# 70038 Life

[Rip Snorter]

1 hour ago, Gateway Kid SASS# 70038 Life said:

Yep, plenty of crazy things regarding knives.

Anybody ever hear of BenchMade?

I have their autoimunity automatic. six weeks after getting it as last years Christmas gift, the tip broke while fitting a piece of oak into a chess set I was working on. No problem right? Lifetime warranty right? not so fast. First ANY tip damage is not covered at all, but they would fit a new blade for $140 upon return. But if you are not LEO or first responder they cannot return automatics to you, it has to go to an "authorized" service center where you can pick it up. Closest one to me..... Boise at 400 mile plus away.  Needless to say tip is still broken and this will be my last BenchMade. 

So much for EDC

Regards

    

Gateway Kid

Regrind, no big thing, or order a replacement blade - no fitting required, and not a knife so mailable.    Didn't they facilitate destruction of guns? https://gununiversity.com/is-benchmade-knife-company-anti-gun/  As my dear departed MIL used to say "Scroom!"

Edited September 29 by Rip Snorter
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[Pat Riot]

1 hour ago, Rip Snorter said:

Regrind, no big thing, or order a replacement blade - no fitting required, and not a knife so mailable.    Didn't they facilitate destruction of guns? https://gununiversity.com/is-benchmade-knife-company-anti-gun/  As my dear departed MIL used to say "Scroom!"

They destroyed two guns. That was it and from what I understand the guys that did it did not do it under instruction from management and they were reprimanded. 

[Pat Riot]

When I went to Boston I looked up their knife laws. One cannot legally carry a knife with a blade longer than 2” and it cannot be a spring assisted knife. This is a city law. Not sure about the state laws. So, I bought a cheap 1.9” lock blade knife for my 2 visits to Boston. I always have to have a knife. 
 

What the young lady didn’t say regarding CA knife laws is nearly every city has some time of restriction. 
State laws ban: (cities can expand on state laws)

Balisongs with blades over 2”

Assisted opening knives

Concealed knives with blades >3” - a pocket clip knife clipped in a pocket is not concealed.

Cane knives and swords

Double edged blades like daggers or dirks

 

West Virginia allows the carry of all knives except Bowie Knives.
This one baffles me. I asked a Sheriff’s Deputy what the WV definition of a Bowie Knife was and what length blade does a knife have to have to be considered a Bowie. He said “No one knows for sure. The law says Bowie knives and that’s it.”

[Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L]

In ca, you can possess a gravity knife but you cannot carry nor transport it! 

[Gateway Kid SASS# 70038 Life]

2 hours ago, Rip Snorter said:

Regrind, no big thing, or order a replacement blade - no fitting required, and not a knife so mailable.    Didn't they facilitate destruction of guns? https://gununiversity.com/is-benchmade-knife-company-anti-gun/  As my dear departed MIL used to say "Scroom!"

yes regrinding is not a big deal. I have done that on several buck knives that were used to pry nails out of tires for example. My problem is the benchmade is about a $250 knife that is advertised as an EDC. A little ridiculous that a piece of steel failed when pitted against a piece of wood. I have no intention of sending anymore money to a company that points out after the fact that their warranty doesn't cover much at all and it is BS that I can buy their product locally but have to send it to oregon (my expense) to have it worked on and they can't send it back (and I have to pay to get it within 400 miles of me)

BTW I have used my less than $50 buck knives to jump start my cars, work on electrical wiring, sometimes as a rudimentary file, drywall knive, even scraped paint on occasion. Just for grins once I sent one back that the arc of the starter melted part of the blade away and they sent me a new one with a note that they saw that kind of thing all the time!

YMMV

Regards

    

Gateway Kid

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

In the old days, says 1900s or thereabouts, one could carry a concealed pistol in San Fran but not a stiletto.

[Pat Riot]

3 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said:

In the old days, says 1900s or thereabouts, one could carry a concealed pistol in San Fran but not a stiletto.

That is a perfect metaphor for California laws in general. 
 

As @Injun Ryder, SASS #36201Lsaid, you can own a gravity knife, you just can’t carry one. 
They are bunches of Jeckyl & Hyde laws there. 
 

List of things one can own but not carry - going by memory here….

- Japanese throwing stars or pretty much everything seen in the Karate movies of the early ‘70’s. Another example of movies and blood diseases that turn blood the color of pee dictating laws. 

- Tomahawks

- Throwing knives

- Guns…duh!

There are more but I can’t make my thinker “brain” this morning 

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

Ages ago in a long distant past on a continent far far away, I and some others did presentations at symposia. It happens that after Tokyo two of us did Taipei. Traveling on the same flight, we would be picked by a Chinese limo driver to take us to our hotel.  We had a very long wait at baggage claim for his luggage. It turns out that he had bought a sword in Japan that was illegal to possess in Taiwan. Airport personnel had removed it from his luggage and he could claim it when leaving the country.

[Chantry]

Carefully check your state law.  Don't count on your carry permit to apply to any knife you may have on you or in your possession outside of your home.

 

The CT permit clearly states it is for handguns and revolvers.  CT Knife law:  https://www.cga.ct.gov/2007/rpt/2007-R-0346.htm

 

 

[Rip Snorter]

8 hours ago, Gateway Kid SASS# 70038 Life said:

yes regrinding is not a big deal. I have done that on several buck knives that were used to pry nails out of tires for example. My problem is the benchmade is about a $250 knife that is advertised as an EDC. A little ridiculous that a piece of steel failed when pitted against a piece of wood. I have no intention of sending anymore money to a company that points out after the fact that their warranty doesn't cover much at all and it is BS that I can buy their product locally but have to send it to oregon (my expense) to have it worked on and they can't send it back (and I have to pay to get it within 400 miles of me)

BTW I have used my less than $50 buck knives to jump start my cars, work on electrical wiring, sometimes as a rudimentary file, drywall knive, even scraped paint on occasion. Just for grins once I sent one back that the arc of the starter melted part of the blade away and they sent me a new one with a note that they saw that kind of thing all the time!

YMMV

Regards

    

Gateway Kid

I still have a nice enough Gerber I bought at a gun show  that somebody got electrical with, small notch.  I had the Puma version of the 110 break cutting bait.  They not only replaced it, they apologized!  As to Bowies, at one time, with more primitive firearms, they were legendary and banned in many places.  I have a couple that are truly formidable.

[Texas Jack Black]

9 hours ago, Pat Riot said:

When I went to Boston I looked up their knife laws. One cannot legally carry a knife with a blade longer than 2” and it cannot be a spring assisted knife. This is a city law. Not sure about the state laws. So, I bought a cheap 1.9” lock blade knife for my 2 visits to Boston. I always have to have a knife. 
 

What the young lady didn’t say regarding CA knife laws is nearly every city has some time of restriction. 
State laws ban: (cities can expand on state laws)

Balisongs with blades over 2”

Assisted opening knives

Concealed knives with blades >3” - a pocket clip knife clipped in a pocket is not concealed.

Cane knives and swords

Double edged blades like daggers or dirks

 

West Virginia allows the carry of all knives except Bowie Knives.
This one baffles me. I asked a Sheriff’s Deputy what the WV definition of a Bowie Knife was and what length blade does a knife have to have to be considered a Bowie. He said “No one knows for sure. The law says Bowie knives and that’s it.”

Switch blades and  stilettoes  1.5  and 2 .5 knives for minors     reread 

Best wishes

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

33 minutes ago, Texas Jack Black said:

Switch blades and  stilettoes  1.5  and 2 .5 knives for minors     reread 

Best wishes

Stiletoes?

 

 

[Sedalia Dave]

10 hours ago, Pat Riot said:

This one baffles me. I asked a Sheriff’s Deputy what the WV definition of a Bowie Knife was and what length blade does a knife have to have to be considered a Bowie. He said “No one knows for sure. The law says Bowie knives and that’s it.”

 In Texas there were a whole host of knifes that were illegal to carry.
Bowie knives were Included on the list however there was no definition for what constituted a Bowie knife. 

In 2017 the illegal knife statute was removed in part because of the lack of a legal definition for most of the knives on the list. 

[Texas Jack Black]

7 minutes ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said:

Stiletoes?

 

 

The heel is a deadly weapon😉

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

21 minutes ago, Texas Jack Black said:

The heel is a deadly weapon😉

Anything over 2”.

[Pat Riot]

As in all things regarding the law, often police officers are the last to hear of changes in laws. 
In 2022 I gave my nephew an “assisted opening” Kershaw knife. I found out that knife was illegal in PA and let him know. 
A few months later that law in PA was rescinded. 
He darn near hot arrested when a cop saw him flick it open at a gas station to cut some twine on a load of brush he was hauling somewhere. 
After a 15 minute delay he was allowed to proceed after the officer got clarification on the law. 
 

I just put that out there to show that often knife laws, and gun laws, aren’t always common knowledge amongst law enforcement. 
I carry knives I can flip open but do not have springs. I never carry a knife that appears double edged. 
The last thing I want to deal with is a police officer that isn’t fully versed in the law bugging me about a perceived infraction. 

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

1 hour ago, Texas Jack Black said:

The heel is a deadly weapon😉

a general rule so are the ladies wearing those things.    

[Texas Joker]

Well FWIW 2A says ARMS not guns. And at the time we were still issuing swords to the military for use not show.

 

Mo's license is for a concealed weapons license that decriminalizes the chapter on what is bad: blackjack,  daggers, saps and such.

 

While we are a constitution carry state the license has its uses.

[Texas Jack Black]

2 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

a general rule so are the ladies wearing those things.    

 I found out while visiting South East Asia back in 68

[John Kloehr]

A lot of the Bowie knife laws only banned concealed carry.

 

I carry a folding box knife. Not legal on airlines (duh now), or court rooms. Never worried anywhere else and could afford another if confiscated.

[Sedalia Dave]

10 hours ago, Texas Jack Black said:

The heel is a deadly weapon😉

 

Remember Eddie Murphy - Shoe-Throwing Mother

[Pat Riot]

4 hours ago, John Kloehr said:

 

A lot of the Bowie knife laws only banned concealed carry.

 

The laws that I’ve read didn’t mention concealment. 

[watab kid]

much like the gun laws i think they are all unconstitutional - lawyers 

[Finagler 6853 Life]

Maybe it is just me or Hollyweird but it seems like all the cops shows regardless of what supposed location the show is supposed to be in, all the cops carry open assisted knives.  I suppose they are immune to the laws.  Doesn't speak well of the show writers if the tv cops aren't allowed to carry either.

[Cactus Jack Calder]

On 9/29/2024 at 10:15 AM, Texas Jack Black said:

The heel is a deadly weapon😉

“The Trouble With Harry” by Alfred Hitchcock.

A dead body shows up in a small town and everyone in the movie has had a bad interaction with him. They each think they are the one who killed him. One lady nailed him in the forehead with her stiletto heel and left a puncture. It was a good movie.

 

CJ

[sassnetguy50]

On 9/29/2024 at 3:34 PM, John Kloehr said:

A lot of the Bowie knife laws only banned concealed carry.

 

I carry a folding box knife. Not legal on airlines (duh now), or court rooms. Never worried anywhere else and could afford another if confiscated.

Is the whole knife confiscated or only the blade?

[ORNERY OAF]

2 hours ago, Finagler 6853 Life said:

Maybe it is just me or Hollyweird but it seems like all the cops shows regardless of what supposed location the show is supposed to be in, all the cops carry open assisted knives.  I suppose they are immune to the laws.  Doesn't speak well of the show writers if the tv cops aren't allowed to carry either.

Automatic knives are legal in ohio for everyone

[John Kloehr]

20 hours ago, Pat Riot said:

The laws that I’ve read didn’t mention concealment. 

Took me a while to get back to this thread. A good writeup is at:

 

https://reason.com/volokh/2022/11/20/bowie-knife-statutes-1837-1899/

 

For Bowie knives, handguns, and other arms, a few states prohibited sales. The very large majority, however, respected the right to keep and bear arms, including Bowie knives. These states allowed open carry while some of them forbade concealed carry. In the 19th century, legislatures tended to prefer that people carry openly; today, legislatures tend to favor concealed carry.

[Pat Riot]

2 hours ago, John Kloehr said:

Took me a while to get back to this thread. A good writeup is at:

 

https://reason.com/volokh/2022/11/20/bowie-knife-statutes-1837-1899/

 

For Bowie knives, handguns, and other arms, a few states prohibited sales. The very large majority, however, respected the right to keep and bear arms, including Bowie knives. These states allowed open carry while some of them forbade concealed carry. In the 19th century, legislatures tended to prefer that people carry openly; today, legislatures tend to favor concealed carry.

I stand corrected on Bowie knives in WV. I apparently read an old law. 
Any knife is legal to carry concealed in WV under the Constitutional carry laws. The only restrictions are for age (minors) and if one is prohibited from owning weapons due to felonies and such.