PowderRiverCowboy Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 Finders keepers? Has anyone seen the lost F35? The US military is searching for a missing F-35B in South Carolina after the pilot ejected yesterday and the jet kept flying. If you have seen an F-35 in the woods, please contact the US Marines.https://www.npr.org/2023/09/18/1200093822/missing-f-35-fighter-jet-south-carolina
Subdeacon Joe Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 Mom! Guess what I found! Can I keep it?
PowderRiverCowboy Posted September 18, 2023 Author Posted September 18, 2023 On 9/18/2023 at 7:40 PM, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: Is there a reward? Expand Free all expense paid trip to Ukraine
Trailrider #896 Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 From some of the reports, you might need SCUBA gear, possibly with saturation breathing gases, and a boat with side-scan sonar.
Duffield, SASS #23454 Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 They tried to build a fighter that wouldn't show upon radar. Looks like they succeeded.
Capt. R. Hugh Kidnme Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 I think Pepsi stole it, to give to their contest winner from the 80s who never got his. Just a theory.
Big Gus, SASS# 66666 Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 What I find odd is pilot bailed but obviously the plane is fully capable of flight. Transponder is turned off or not working. If that is the case isn’t that something that would have to be fixed before taking off? Something does not make sense. Maybe more flight training and less politically correct training.
Matthew Duncan Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 On 9/18/2023 at 9:00 PM, Trailrider #896 said: From some of the reports, you might need SCUBA gear, possibly with saturation breathing gases, and a boat with side-scan sonar. Expand They should look under the Russian trawler.
Sedalia Dave Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 On 9/18/2023 at 11:26 PM, Big Gus, SASS# 66666 said: What I find odd is pilot bailed but obviously the plane is fully capable of flight. Transponder is turned off or not working. If that is the case isn’t that something that would have to be fixed before taking off? Something does not make sense. Maybe more flight training and less politically correct training. Expand The AC was being tracked by Air Traffic Control. However ATC radars rotate at 20 RPM. This means that ATC only gets an update every 3 seconds at best. Depending on the area this happened in ATC radar most likely cannot see AC below a minimum altitude. In some cases that can be as high as 10,000 feet AGL. With an aircraft that can cover a lot of ground in a very short time the search area gets big fast. Additionally, despite what most people think a crash site can be very hard to spot when it occurs in a wooded area.
Matthew Duncan Posted September 18, 2023 Posted September 18, 2023 “A pilot ejected from the aircraft on Sunday afternoon after a "mishap." Mishap was the pilot pulling the “EJECT” strap?
Blackwater 53393 Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 I had a lousy day today, I have never laughed any harder than when some of these IDIOT reporters were talking about the plane “might still be flying’ a full day after the pilot ejected. There was no mention of the plane having to refuel! There was no evidence of ground or “in flight” refueling. It was abundantly clear that the plane couldn’t possibly be airborne!! Media! BAH!! Blithering IDIOTS!!
Charlie Harley, #14153 Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 On 9/18/2023 at 11:22 PM, Capt. R. Hugh Kidnme said: I think Pepsi stole it, to give to their contest winner from the 80s who never got his. Just a theory. Expand I’m troubled that I remember that ad. It was a Harrier.
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 On 9/18/2023 at 11:54 PM, Sedalia Dave said: Additionally, despite what most people think a crash site can be very hard to spot when it occurs in a wooded area. Expand As a Civil Air Patrol search and rescue pilot, I can personally confirm that. Granted, the wrecks I found weren’t as big as an F-35, but when they auger in, the debris field can be pretty small. One wreck I found in the woods couldn’t be seen for 270 degrees of a 360 orbit.
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 Debris was found north of Charleston, SC
bgavin Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 My son- in-law was in charge of fishing that last F35 out of 12,000 feet of water, so the joke going around was if his phone was ringing again. From what I read these planes have a whole lot of high tech stuff they don’t want in foreign hands.
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 On 9/19/2023 at 12:20 PM, bgavin said: My son- in-law was in charge of fishing that last F35 out of 12,000 feet of water, so the joke going around was if his phone was ringing again. From what I read these planes have a whole lot of high tech stuff they don’t want in foreign hands. Expand Yeah, the Chinese know about it but why give them concrete examples.
bgavin Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 They are quite serious about keeping it out of foreign hands.
PowderRiverCowboy Posted September 19, 2023 Author Posted September 19, 2023 On 9/18/2023 at 11:26 PM, Big Gus, SASS# 66666 said: What I find odd is pilot bailed but obviously the plane is fully capable of flight. Transponder is turned off or not working. If that is the case isn’t that something that would have to be fixed before taking off? Something does not make sense. Maybe more flight training and less politically correct training. Expand On 9/18/2023 at 11:57 PM, Matthew Duncan said: “A pilot ejected from the aircraft on Sunday afternoon after a "mishap." Mishap was the pilot pulling the “EJECT” strap? Expand The F35 has a auto-eject seat , They have had issues for the last year but still flyinghttps://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/08/03/f-35-ejection-seat-problem-was-discovered-3-months-ago-jets-kept-flying.html
Trailrider #896 Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 On 9/19/2023 at 5:04 PM, PowderRiverCowboy said: The F35 has a auto-eject seat , They have had issues for the last year but still flyinghttps://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/08/03/f-35-ejection-seat-problem-was-discovered-3-months-ago-jets-kept-flying.html Expand The problems were with certain ballistic cartridges that might preclude a successful ejection. I seriously doubt that an "auto-ejection situation is possible. The pilot was reported to be okay, and that would require he/she being in the proper position to eject without injury or death! As far as what made the pilot eject in the first place, the flight control systems are so complicated that a total failure might have made it totally impossible to make any inputs that had an effect on the attitude of the aircraft. I am speculating, but I'd bet that after following all the checklist procedures to regain control, the pilot had no other choice but to eject. If the aircraft was in straight and level flight or thereabouts, it would have just continued until it ran out of fuel before crashing miles away from the pilot ejecting.
PowderRiverCowboy Posted September 19, 2023 Author Posted September 19, 2023 On 9/19/2023 at 8:27 PM, Trailrider #896 said: The problems were with certain ballistic cartridges that might preclude a successful ejection. I seriously doubt that an "auto-ejection situation is possible. The pilot was reported to be okay, and that would require he/she being in the proper position to eject without injury or death! As far as what made the pilot eject in the first place, the flight control systems are so complicated that a total failure might have made it totally impossible to make any inputs that had an effect on the attitude of the aircraft. I am speculating, but I'd bet that after following all the checklist procedures to regain control, the pilot had no other choice but to eject. If the aircraft was in straight and level flight or thereabouts, it would have just continued until it ran out of fuel before crashing miles away from the pilot ejecting. Expand However, the incident, dramatic video footage of which was captured at the time, makes it worthwhile to discuss an obscure feature on the aircraft: an 'auto eject' system that can engage the jet's Martin-Baker US16E ejection seat without direction under very particular circumstances.https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/the-f-35b-can-eject-its-pilot-automatically
Trailrider #896 Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 On 9/19/2023 at 8:33 PM, PowderRiverCowboy said: However, the incident, dramatic video footage of which was captured at the time, makes it worthwhile to discuss an obscure feature on the aircraft: an 'auto eject' system that can engage the jet's Martin-Baker US16E ejection seat without direction under very particular circumstances.https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/the-f-35b-can-eject-its-pilot-automatically Expand Fascinating! Unless the aircraft in question was being flown into a hover at altitude, for training purposes, I can't imagine the auto-eject feature coming into play. I wonder if there are harness roll-up devices that would pull the pilot into a "safe" posture, such as there were years ago in the F-104 for the feet (pilot wore spurs on his boots connected to the ballistic reels, with guillotine cutters on the cables after the ejection. There were some other weird things, such as cables and reels & cutters on the systems I worked on, but that was years ago, so I don't remember which aircraft used them, if any.
Rip Snorter Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 On another site, there was a statement that there had been previous auto eject problems, don't know the fact of the matter.
Buckshot Bear Posted September 19, 2023 Posted September 19, 2023 Australia only has 72 of the F-35's presently, we can't afford to lose any like how this one went down.
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