Blackwater 53393 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 I have never fired an actual 9mm firearm. It just never happened. The standard magazines for my .45acp EDC sidearms carry 13 and 14 rounds respectively. I realize that .357 cal firearms are very close to 9mm and I HAVE shot many of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Blackwater 53393 said: I have never fired an actual 9mm firearm. It just never happened. The standard magazines for my .45acp EDC sidearms carry 13 and 14 rounds respectively. I realize that .357 cal firearms are very close to 9mm and I HAVE shot many of those. Close in diameter, an entirely different level of effectiveness. 357 is a whole different animal than the best 9mm, or even my much loved Super. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, John Kloehr said: About twice a year, I refresh my carry, currently mostly .45 ACP. With three new boxes, I shoot off several rounds from each box. If they work, I set aside enough for my three carry mags, plus six rounds, two from each box. Then shoot off the rest of the three boxes. If no problems, I have carry ammo for the next six months. Is six months a good amount of time to refresh? I then shoot off the three carry mags. They have always gone bang. So I'm good with six months. Extreme clean and inspection of the firearm and all mags, then run the six reserved rounds, two in each mag. Field strip and clean, load the three mags. Carry for the next six months with a field strip and clean every 2 to 3 weeks. Same for 9mm. Same for any carry. SD ammo is expensive, and once in a while I will compete in something like Steel Challenge with one of my carry firearms. But knowing my carry runs without hiccups on demand is far less expensive than the value of doing so. Ammo in "cold storage" is good indefinitely, the stuff on my belt is not properly stored and must have some reduced life span. Given its purpose, it must be expended regularly. Cost be damned! Once a year I’ll dump my carry ammo. So far no issues. I usually buy the LE HST in the 50 round boxes so it’s not real expensive. Usually just leave the gun loaded all the time so I don’t have to worry about bullet set back loading the pistol every day. Have some stashed guns around the house I do the same with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 I, too, don't own a 9mm pistol and have never shot one. No big reason, except that I came into handgun ownership and interest only in my early/mid-50s, via revolvers. So I got very intersted in revolvers and so it has stayed. I do own a Ruger MkIII .22, and have thought about a 1911 now and then. When I see the enormous shelf space given to 9mm ammo, I always wish they could find room in the factory for .357 and .45 Colt..... .44 spl and mag would be nice sometime, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Kris Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Buckshot Bear said: How many of you guys in the US ever use 9mm? Some of us non-guys use them too. I carry one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.D. Daily Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 I & the misses don't own a large number of handguns; so, we only have 3 chambered in 9mm Luger. A CZ85, Glock 19 & Cobra derringer. I own one 9mm Kurz (380ACP). I have an AR-15 upper in 350 Legend which has same bullet dia as 9x19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 None for me. I inherited my dad’s S&W and traded it to my buddy for Netware and books. Sold all the ammo… no desire to ever shoot it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted December 8, 2022 Author Share Posted December 8, 2022 55 minutes ago, Calamity Kris said: Some of us non-guys use them too. I carry one. @Calamity Kris Sorry.....no offense intended......its common in Australia to call a bunch of mixed sexes "guys" here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot, SASS #13748 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Buckshot Bear said: You guys are metricated ...... you just don't know it I think you’re right. A dollar now is worth about 62 cents…just like a Kilometer is .62 miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Buckshot Bear said: You guys are metricated ...... you just don't know it I was taught the metric system in grade school, they kept telling us that we need to learn it because we were going to drop the imperial/English system. I honestly think it would have been easier if we had. Wouldn’t be a need to have imperial and metric tools, and no need to figure out if it’s one or the other before working on something. Allot of things in the US can be a mix of both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 33 minutes ago, Buckshot Bear said: @Calamity Kris Sorry.....no offense intended......its common in Australia to call a bunch of mixed sexes "guys" here It's the same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot, SASS #13748 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 One of the things I like about the 9mm is it’s been around a long time, longer that most other current handgun rounds. .38 Special is older than the 9mm. It’s another one of my favorite rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Phantom Falcon, SASS # 46139 said: I like 9mm but strictly as a recreational round. It ain't worth a damn as a combat cartridge; it has no knockdown power. It and that .22 Magnum M-16 just pissed the gomers off; it wouldn't stop them or kill them unless you shot them 50 times. Maybe they'd be OK with hollow points, but with ball ammo they are useless. And I'm not willing to trust my life to a HP 9mm or AR 5.56 mm with HPs. I'll stick to .30 cal rifles and .357, .40 Smith, 10mm or .45 ACP handguns, thank you! Opinions are like a--h---s, everyone has one. (some people ARE one!) In my arsenal I don't have a 5.56 / .233. Never did, never will, but I have seen what they can do and I don't ever want to be shot with one. A hit from an SKS didn't kill me, but I don't want be shot with one of those again. I'd druther not be shot at all, if I had my druthers. Under the right circumstances almost any round will kill a man, some quite efficiently, others not so much. I have never felt "under-gunned" with a .45, .44. .38, 9mm or some other calibers I've come across, but my .38 Special six shot DA is my daily carry piece, and my really "hard time" gun is a .45acp. I'm confident I can make a kill shot twice in two seconds with either one at twenty yards and see very little chance of ever needing more that that. You go to your church, I'll go to mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 5 hours ago, Buckshot Bear said: Guys.......and you all reckon you don't use the metric system Hell, son, I was born before the metric system was invented, and so far I haven't been much Jimmy Cartered yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: Opinions are like a--h---s, everyone has one. (some people ARE one!) In my arsenal I don't have a 5.56 / .233. Never did, never will, but I have seen what they can do and I don't ever want to be shot with one. A hit from an SKS didn't kill me, but I don't want be shot with one of those again. I'd druther not be shot at all, if I had my druthers. Under the right circumstances almost any round will kill a man, some quite efficiently, others not so much. I have never felt "under-gunned" with a .45, .44. .38, 9mm or some other calibers I've come across, but my .38 Special six shot DA is my daily carry piece, and my really "hard time" gun is a .45acp. I'm confident I can make a kill shot twice in two seconds with either one at twenty yards and see very little chance of ever needing more that that. You go to your church, I'll go to mine. I honestly buy into shot placement being the biggest thing. I believe the ballistic testing and research that’s been done, if something will penetrate enough to get to the vitals it can kill. I’ve killed plenty of deer with a bow and they are all about blood loss. It’s pretty much the same with handguns. They just don’t have the hydrostatic shock that a rifle does. I’ve read too many cases of people soaking up many handgun rounds and not stopping their bad behavior until they bled out. I’ve had many veterans tell me it takes multiple rounds to anchor someone with a 223. The only thing that seems to reliably get the one shot stop everyone always talks about is a 308 or larger rifle or a 12ga with slugs or buckshot. But also with the proper shot placement. These days with the body cams that police and military wear there’s plenty of video footage of things that work and things that don’t. I like the 45acp but I would think with the usage around the world of 9mm and 30 tokarev, each of those calibers are probably responsible for the death of more people than the 45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 11 hours ago, Buckshot Bear said: You guys are metricated ...... you just don't know it When it's acceptable to say "I milometered closer and closer", instead of "I inched closer and closer", ONLY then will I be metricated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 9mm is the top selling pistol ammo in the US, so……. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 9 hours ago, Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 said: It's the same here. And it always affected a server’s tip when they asked my wife and I, “What can I get you guys?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Rich Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 11 hours ago, Cypress Sun said: Many Americans prefer the 11.48mm round over the 9mm, however...most Americans prefer to not get shot with anything, be it metric or Imperial. I have a 1927 Colt chambered in 11.25 mm (45 acp) but have never heard of a 11.48. What caliber would that be? kR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 10 hours ago, Buckshot Bob said: I was taught the metric system in grade school, they kept telling us that we need to learn it because we were going to drop the imperial/English system. I honestly think it would have been easier if we had. Wouldn’t be a need to have imperial and metric tools, and no need to figure out if it’s one or the other before working on something. Allot of things in the US can be a mix of both. And then there's Wentworth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, Kid Rich said: I have a 1927 Colt chambered in 11.25 mm (45 acp) but have never heard of a 11.48. What caliber would that be? kR 11.48mm = .452 inches (.45 ACP). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Rich Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, Cypress Sun said: 11.48mm = .452 inches (.45 ACP). I'm thinkin they figured it at .451 as that is what is stamped on the slide. kR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 10 hours ago, Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 said: It's the same here. Same here,used by men and ladies when addressing more than one. Never meant to be offensive as far as know. Like " have a good night guys". Sheesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot, SASS #13748 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, Kid Rich said: I have a 1927 Colt chambered in 11.25 mm (45 acp) but have never heard of a 11.48. What caliber would that be? kR 11.25 is .44” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, Eyesa Horg said: And then there's Wentworth The school, the TV series or the town ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Rich Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 11.25 is what is stamped on the slide of that 1911. kR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45_ACP .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol) or .45 Auto (11.43×23mm)[ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, Buckshot Bob said: The school, the TV series or the town ? My old British motorcycle a BSA was wentworth, I still have some of the sockets somewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Kid, SASS#54714 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 My 1915 Beretta is a 9mm Glisenti round. Does that count? Try finding that ammo. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot, SASS #13748 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 32 minutes ago, Kid Rich said: 11.25 is what is stamped on the slide of that 1911. kR I guess I am missing something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 38 minutes ago, Kid Rich said: I'm thinkin they figured it at .451 as that is what is stamped on the slide. kR The .45 ACP FMJ/HP/SJ (most jacketed) bullets are .451. The lead bullets, I've been using are .452. What's .001 among friends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, Eyesa Horg said: My old British motorcycle a BSA was wentworth, I still have some of the sockets somewhere! So wentworth is another unit of measurement ? Or are you just referring to metric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Whitworth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Rich Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 22 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said: The .45 ACP FMJ/HP/SJ (most jacketed) bullets are .451. The lead bullets, I've been using are .452. What's .001 among friends? Yep, I don't know what 11.25 figures at but it is a 45 acp made on Colt equipment that was sent to Argentina and is stamped 11.25 on the left side of the slide model 1927. kR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 This is a Norwegian 1911 Colt. If you blow the picture up you can easily see the caliber marking on the side of the slide. 11.25 mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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