Patagonia Pete Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 OK .. I have always used a straight stock carbine. That is what I purchased initially and it has (previously) never occurred to me to even think about trying a pistol grip stock. When I lever my carbine (regular 20 inch '73) I keep my thumb on the side plate ... the index finger "in" the trigger guard ... two fingers in the lever and the pinkie on the outside (underneath) of the lever ... AND ... rotate my hand. Sooooooo ... how about those of you that have tried both ... and made a decision to go one way or the other. Why?? Can you feel the difference or is it really just cosmetic?? Can you switch at will and not care ... OR ... did you switch from one to the other and amazingly cut 3 seconds off your stage times??!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 My right hand has so little contact with the stock, it really doesn't make much difference to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twelve mile REB Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I can feel the difference and I feel the a straight stock allows you to position your hand in such a manner as to get better times with the rifle. Cut 3 seconds from your stage time I doubt it. However, I think the guys that shoot Delux stocks think they are the best as well. Look at what Hells Comin shoots, or Robin or that Kirkham kid that might give you some idea of whats what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patagonia Pete Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 My right hand has so little contact with the stock, it really doesn't make much difference to me. Yep ... got that .. The lever is shaped differently .. that is the real issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patagonia Pete Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 > snip < Cut 3 seconds from your stage time I doubt it. > snip < Yeah ... that's why it was "amazing" (amazingly cut 3 seconds etc etc ...). That was a joke ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 i like the straight for its traditional look and feel , but i know there are folks that shoot other venues that might find the grip a bit more familiar to the hand , whatever you like , if i had it to do over i might look for straight stock shotguns , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Graybeard Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I happen to like a pistol grip and a long barrel. I seem to shoot my long barrel rifles better than my short barrel ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twelve mile REB Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Yeah ... that's why it was "amazing" (amazingly cut 3 seconds etc etc ...). That was a joke ... Yes mine was tongue in cheek as well. Many delux shooters slap the trigger while users of the other choice often trip the trigger. You shoot with some of the best riflemen around watch them ask them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major BS Walker Regulator Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I've never shot a straight stock so I can give you no comparison and just a prejudice preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokestack SASS#87384 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I prefer a straight stock for cosmetic reasons. I just think it looks better. With the way I run the rifle, I can shoot either style with little to no difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C. W. Knight # 47289L Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I don't know nutttin' but all 4 of my '73 & an 86 & and of my hunting rifles and shotguns have pistol grip stocks. So what do I know, to each their own. Shoot & have fun. , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Equanimous Phil Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Howdy! Similar question has been raised not that long ago on the wire: Equanimous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patagonia Pete Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 Howdy! Similar question has been raised not that long ago on the wire: Equanimous Thanks!! I missed that one!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball #7709 Life Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Years ago, when pistol grips were hard to get, but everyone "had to have one", we laid the one on top of the other to see what the big deal was. Very little dimensional difference in the usable part of the lever and stocks. Like a lot of things, I think the choice comes down to which one looks best to you, or which one you may have started with because it's what you had or could borrow/find. I see a lot of pistol grip rifles with the crescent butt plate cut off to mimic the carbine. Personally, I like the Shotgun Butt stock style, which is a straight grip style stock, but Uberti doesn't offer that.(it provides a higher comb so I can get a good cheek weld) I restocked a Uberti years ago and have used that until recently when Winchester/Miroku made a run of shotgun butt style guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I've tried shooting a pistol grip rifle a couple times and I'm just more comfortable with the straight stock which is all I ever had. I think it's whatever you get used to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I shoot a straight stock, but as Rye and others mentioned I think it really comes down to what you’re used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooting Bull Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 If you have access to both try this...............Pick them up and shoulder them with your eyes closed. Once you get them mounted securely into your shoulder and get a good cheek weld then open your eyes. Which one lines up the sights better? Also cycle the actions with your eyes closed. Simply feel the movement of your hand. Which one do you like better? Last but not lease, it's recommend your rifle and shotgun stocks have the same profile. Not at all a necessity, but it's believed that the similarity helps you get good consistent shoulder mounts under match conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sam, SASS #10915 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 The early ones with the pistol grip had triggers with a more pronounced curve. That seemed to position the trigger just right to STAB my finger. So, I like the straight stock better. Anyway a pistol grip stock on a lever gun just doesn’t look “Cowboy” to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Personally I could care less what setup is faster Life is to short to own ugly guns . All my Leaver Guns are straight stock guns . Just Sayin. Rooster Rrrrr Rrrrr Rrrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I have a pistol grip '73, an 1860 Henry and just acquired a '73 carbine which is straight stock. The difference (to me) is almost imperceptible. Definitely not anything that affects performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon A Bovine SASS 27688 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 My main rifle is a pistol grip, I like the way it picks up when it is staged. Grab it same as the shotgun (it has a pistol grip) and so do both pistols. It is what I'm used to I guess. Used to shoot straight stocked Marlens and to be honest I don't know if I even pay any attention to the difference after the BEEP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Gun Cole Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I prefer the checkered pistol grip Winchester’s deluxe sporting rifle with a 20” barrel. The checkered straight stock would be my second choice. my hand position is further forward with the pistol grip, and that feels more natural for me. comfortable movement is usually faster. Hard to beat the new Carty Winchester’s... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Yep ... got that .. The lever is shaped differently .. that is the real issue. Maybe. But I only have two fingers in the lever and they contact the front of the lever just behind the trigger. I think it's insignificant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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