Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Have you guys seen the new Blazer? It looks like every other "Crossover" out there. The old Blazer, in the 70s and 80s, was more truck than car. The new one is an insult to the name. And I'm a Jeep Guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Yeah, kinda ugly. Not much ground clearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Can ya see OJ tryin' to get away in that thing...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 16 minutes ago, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said: Can ya see OJ tryin' to get away in that thing...? 4 cyl or 6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Yul Lose said: Yeah, kinda ugly. Not much ground clearance. The awd version looks to have more clearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 All the car companies have to ping off each other. This swoopy curvy look all started with the Porsche Cayenne. Then Nissan made the Murano which looked almost identical. Then Mazda did it and Mazda is 50% owned by Ford so Ford had to do it and do on... People buy them and that’s what matters to the car builders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catlow4697 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said: Can ya see OJ tryin' to get away in that thing...? OJ was a Ford kind of guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catlow4697 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Chevy did the same back a ways in time they imported a car from France ( I think ) and called it the Nova At least Chevy didn't put SS badges on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Ford did the same crap to the Bronco. Today, Jeep = Fiat OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 11 hours ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: Have you guys seen the new Blazer? It looks like every other "Crossover" out there. The old Blazer, in the 70s and 80s, was more truck than car. The new one is an insult to the name. And I'm a Jeep Guy! Only thing I see is a picture of a Chevy Blazer and some sort of crossover SUV. Did you post the wrong picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I guess I may be the only one but I think it's pretty cool looking! Is it an old time Blazer? No! It's a crossover SUV and it'll probably sell like hotcakes! https://2020chevy.com/2019-chevrolet-blazer-availability-dimensions-concept/#more-1172 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Red Eye Jim Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 The problem for me is that the new Blazer is a crossover. I would have preferred the new blazer to be a new *SUV* and I mean a real one, based more on a shortened Colorado chassis than a taller Camaro . Unfortunately, that wouldn't sell as well, so here we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Designed to provide a nice "Warm and Fuzzy" place for the ladies. NOT intended to be driven on the Rubicon. Probably won't see one at Moab either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Sheridan Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I had one of the old S-10 Blazers, and it was a pretty rugged little rig. I currently have an XJ Cherokee, and I wouldn't trade it for one of the new craptastic Fiat Cherokees if you sweetened the deal with some cash. None of these new resurrected nameplates are worth a damn if you expect to put them through hard use or take them off road. Like CC said above they're designed to be comfy road vehicles for soccer moms and young dads. No wonder the old XJs and Blazers are going up in price, because they're all that's left if you want a rugged off-roader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Cognizant Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I suspect people are just more upset they actually named it Blazer, rather than being upset they built yet another crossover. Nevermind that it has more horsepower and can out accelerate and out corner the original blazer. All while providing better fuel economy, more crash safety, a cabin with much less NVH, and no vinyl seats. GM is a business, and I suspect as a business, they understand the Crossover Blazer will sell better than a truck Blazer in this day and age. If you really want a truck-based Blazer, buy an old one and spend the same amount of coin to restore it. And yes, pretty much every sedan and cross over has the same silhouette; designs to minimize air drag tend to have the same shapes. I mean sure, I love me some single action revolvers, but I'm still going to carry a Sig high capacity semi-auto when it matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I'm a fan of the small SUV's, I have a Buick Encore, 4 cyl. turbo, plenty of room, rides great, gas mileage is about 32 city and highway combined! I don't need a truck or 4 wheel drive and I'm certainly not gonna pay the prices they want for trucks nowadays! Outrageous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Sheridan Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Rooster Cognizant said: I suspect people are just more upset they actually named it Blazer, rather than being upset they built yet another crossover. Nevermind that it has more horsepower and can out accelerate and out corner the original blazer. All while providing better fuel economy, more crash safety, a cabin with much less NVH, and no vinyl seats. The point is, if I want a vehicle with those attributes there are already tons of cars and crossovers out there. What's lacking in the marketplace is a decent, modestly-priced off-road worthy vehicle. Sure, you can spend $40K or more on a Trailhawk version of that puny little Jeep Renegade, but it still won't beat my XJ as it lacks ground clearance (note how little the new Blazer has as well). The rest of the pack are all pushing $50K or more for a Trailhawk Cherokee or a Wrangler. I don't want or need a 4-wheeled computer with a button for rock mode, snow mode, sand mode, and mud mode. I want a solid axle, locking hubs and lifted suspension. Let the soccer moms be content driving around with heated leather seats, 8 cup holders butter-soft suspensions and an entertainment system suited for the worst ADHD-inflicted little brat imaginable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I saw one when we picked up my wife' new Equinox. I thought it looked like an Equinox with a different grill. Yeah. Not impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said: Only thing I see is a picture of a Chevy Blazer and some sort of crossover SUV. Did you post the wrong picture? Unfortunately no. THAT'S what Chevy is passing off as a Blazer to the Millennial generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catlow4697 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Looks like a grill from. a Toyota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Cognizant Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 2 On 6/7/2019 at 3:31 PM, Sixgun Sheridan said: The point is, if I want a vehicle with those attributes there are already tons of cars and crossovers out there. What's lacking in the marketplace is a decent, modestly-priced off-road worthy vehicle. Sure, you can spend $40K or more on a Trailhawk version of that puny little Jeep Renegade, but it still won't beat my XJ as it lacks ground clearance (note how little the new Blazer has as well). The rest of the pack are all pushing $50K or more for a Trailhawk Cherokee or a Wrangler. I don't want or need a 4-wheeled computer with a button for rock mode, snow mode, sand mode, and mud mode. I want a solid axle, locking hubs and lifted suspension. Let the soccer moms be content driving around with heated leather seats, 8 cup holders butter-soft suspensions and an entertainment system suited for the worst ADHD-inflicted little brat imaginable. As you pointed out, someone already makes a solid axle simpler vehicle for serious off-roading; the Jeep Wrangler. Of course they dropped the XJ and replaced it with the "new" Cherokee in large part because it's not profitable to have too many models of hard-core off-roaders. Jeep is basically a money printing press for FCA, and was for Daimler and Chrysler before . If they had kept so many of that type of vehicle in their lineup - that would not be the case today. Wrangler sales had a really nice bump in 2018, but most years, there are not enough sold for an automotive company to decide they want to tool up a vehicle just to share that small pond with Jeep, especially since Jeep is reducing their number of vehicles for that pond. Then convince people they should buy their vehicle instead of the Jeep. The Chevy Equinox and GMC terrain combined often sell more than double the number of Wranglers. and they play in a very large pond to be able to increase sales if they make a good enough vehicle. Plus those models will share many parts with other crossovers, which lowers the uniqueness but also lowers the cost to manufacture, allowing for higher profits. I wouldn't make one either if I ran GM, I don't see enough real demand for the cost of design and tooling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted June 9, 2019 Author Share Posted June 9, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 10:59 AM, Rooster Cognizant said: I suspect people are just more upset they actually named it Blazer, rather than being upset they built yet another crossover. Nevermind that it has more horsepower and can out accelerate and out corner the original blazer. All while providing better fuel economy, more crash safety, a cabin with much less NVH, and no vinyl seats. GM is a business, and I suspect as a business, they understand the Crossover Blazer will sell better than a truck Blazer in this day and age. If you really want a truck-based Blazer, buy an old one and spend the same amount of coin to restore it. And yes, pretty much every sedan and cross over has the same silhouette; designs to minimize air drag tend to have the same shapes. I mean sure, I love me some single action revolvers, but I'm still going to carry a Sig high capacity semi-auto when it matters. The fact that they call it a Blazer IS the point. I couldn't care less that there is yet another crossover car on the market. I foresee no point in time when I'll have one. Naming after a good SUV is like calling your SIG an SAA. It's NOT the same even though they provide a lot of the same function. Let me leave you with my signature line from one of the Jeep Discussion groups I'm a member of: "Let's be honest here. Jeeps,are utilitarian and temperamental, crude, loud, rough, cramped, bad on gas, impractical, but they are capable off road and a hell of a lot of fun to drive!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tyrel Cody Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, Wapaloosie73 said: I've never owned a Ford, always swore I'd never buy a Ford. That looks freakin awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted June 9, 2019 Author Share Posted June 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Wapaloosie73 said: Now THAT looks like an SUV. It just might do the "Bronco" name proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Mebbe instead of "Blazer" they shoulda named it the "Sparkler." I think that's what I'll start calling the thing. Differentiation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Cognizant Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Quote The fact that they call it a Blazer IS the point. I couldn't care less that there is yet another crossover car on the market. I foresee no point in time when I'll have one. Naming after a good SUV is like calling your SIG an SAA. It's NOT the same even though they provide a lot of the same function. Let me leave you with my signature line from one of the Jeep Discussion groups I'm a member of: I'm sure GM will regret the decision and kick themselves in the rear many times for not calling everyone up and getting their opinion on the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 I saw the commercial..... ”‘This is my sexy mom car.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 They're making what sells!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go West Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 I have no issue with the Blazer other than they stuck the name on this vehicle. I'm sure it is nice for what it is. The car companies make what the people will buy and apparently the public will purchase pickups coming in at nearly $100,000. Seems like a foolish purchase considering the cost of ownership and the huge depreciation hit. I can't justify putting money like that into a depreciating asset when real estate and stocks typically appreciate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Cognizant Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Bringing back this thread. I did not realize GM made the decision to make the new Blazer in Mexico. Bad move in my opinion. In light of the multiple plant closings here in the U.S. (Especially Lordstown which could have made it easily) - I'm thinking GM didn't think that decision through all that well. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/general-motors/2019/08/02/mexico-made-chevy-blazer-becomes-political-pariah-detroit/39885271/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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