Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 Way back when I was a cop, I served for three years in our DUI Enforcement unit. I worked really hard, going to far as to read prosecutor's manuals and then developing a training program to give the prosecutors what they needed. I was certified nationally to train standardized field sobriety testing, and wherever I trained, their conviction rate went up by an average of 11%. As far as arrests went, I made the second most in the state. #1, however, was a liar. He was lying in his reports and lying on the witness stand. Lawyers all smelled BS and I smelled BS. People used to come to me and tell me things he had done -- skipping the tests, for example, and then writing down that he had done them and making up egregious scores. His whole goal was to remain the #1 DUI arrestor in the state, and if it meant skipping things and lying, he wasn't above it. The problem was, he was funny and charming. He was one of those highly manipulative types who has a lot of people fooled. After maybe 15 people coming to me asking weird questions about him, I got a letter from Internal Affairs saying I was under investigation. Why? For "abusive treatment of a coworker." Apparently, I was conducting an investigation into his behavior. Who knew. Long story short: I gave IA everything everyone had come to me with regarding this guy LYING IN HIS POLICE REPORTS and on the witness stand. They launched an investigation into him. IA PROVED hundreds of "inconsistencies," which they chalked up to "numerous clerical errors" due to the fact he worked so hard. He and I got locked in a room with the chain of command surrounding me, and I was literally yelled at by every member of the command staff for an hour. A year later, I get another letter from IA. I'm under investigation for abusing a prisoner. Of course I would never do such a thing, but the accusation was exceptionally egregious -- I was accused of forcing a prisoner to drink urine! Can you imagine that??? At first I assumed an arrestee had been angry and simply filed a false accusation to get revenge. I had to hire an attorney and get interrogated for three hours, only to learn the accusation had come from within the department -- not the arrestee -- it had been filed by someone I had never met but had heard the nasty rumor about me. At the end of the day, IA's report was over a foot thick. They had interviewed over 40 witnesses and obtain security camera footage that proved I hadn't done anything wrong. So I was cleared, but to make matters worse, IA proved it was the cop who started the rumor just to get revenge on me! So he was documented to be a liar, and by policy, they have to fire him. But they didn't. Coverup. Half the department believed him even after IA proved it was a false accusation, simply because he's funny and charming. I lost half my friends and was professionally ostracized. I stayed there for 8 more years, trying to rebuild my reputation, but the damage was done. So I got a job paying twice as much, working Monday through Friday, and using the advanced education I have. And I have a great personal and professional reputation. I've been promoted three times in my civilian job since starting there eight years ago, and I'm now a full-bird in the Army Reserve. So I won in the end, but needless to say, I'm still very bitter about that lie he propagated about me. This afternoon, my phone exploded. I'm still friends with the guys who remained loyal to me throughout all of that -- loyalty is a two way street -- and all of them contacted me at once. Why? This is why. And the story has far more serious charges than the headline, give it a read: https://www.fox21news.com/top-stories/cspd-officer-arrested-for-allegedly-intimidating-a-victim/ 14 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 Great news! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 There can be no full recompense. but the best one could hope for! Congrats and watch your back! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 Karma Comes a-Calling... and we all know what they say about Karma! What goes around, comes around 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 seems to me you got the best of both worlds in this - a better job that respects you and your adversary seems to have made his person known to all , wish the best for you and hope justice prevails on him , im sure there are others with grievances as well that feel a bit of vindication here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painted Mohawk SASS 77785 Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 Hopefully he gets what's owing...the Karma' wheel may turn slow sometimes but eventually it comes around ! Unfortunately the public are suspicious of all cops because of the bad cops...I suppose that can really relate to a lot of professions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 ...... very little leaves as bad a taste as when someone deliberately lies about you ....... You, Sir, have my sympathies. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Graybeard Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 Hopefully he gets his...with a little extra. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646 Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 The Universe always seeks balance. When you put out as much crap as he has it will always come back to sit on his head. Imis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 Glad that karma finally has caught up to him. I hope the charges stick and a conviction follows. Sounds like leaving the department was the best thing for you health wise, mentally and financially...good on you for taking the high road and leaving the gutter for him. I do have to wonder what will happen to the people who were convicted on false evidence and testimony. Although, I sure that some of them (probably many of them) were guilty, they all deserved to have a fair and just trial...and didn't receive it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowderRiverCowboy Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 Anyone with any sense knows you don't make them drink urine , You use it to waterboard them 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Rustler, SASS #26680 Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 I have a question for Cyrus Cassidy. It's been years since all this happened, does that mean all the bosses from back then who covered up for him are gone now? If they treated you that way they probably treated others that way too, maybe that led to them being replaced by better bosses. Maybe in addition to everything else you helped make the department better by standing up for what's right even at a personal cost to yourself. Anyway, just a thought. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted November 22 Author Share Posted November 22 33 minutes ago, Chicken Rustler, SASS #26680 said: I have a question for Cyrus Cassidy. It's been years since all this happened, does that mean all the bosses from back then who covered up for him are gone now? If they treated you that way they probably treated others that way too, maybe that led to them being replaced by better bosses. Maybe in addition to everything else you helped make the department better by standing up for what's right even at a personal cost to yourself. Anyway, just a thought. Unfortunately, the department is saturated with terrible bosses. I earned a master's degree in management back in 2015 (several years after these events) and essentially indicted the terrible leadership and management practices at my department. I still worked there at the time, so I hid it from them. But I found a very strong correlation with their management practices and increases in crime rates, when, at the time, national and state crime was trending downward. As to the specific bosses, some of them have moved on, but others have moved up. The department, from what I hear, is worse than ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish ike, SASS #43615 Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 There's a similar story on YouTube about an aggressive cop who led the department in DUI arrests. It caught up with him when. He pulled a car over and said the driver was weaving. Says I smell alcohol get out of the car. Its a kid about 21 or so. Kid denies it but. He takes the field sobriety tests and passes with flying colors. He keeps telling the cop he's on the football team and if he gets caught drinking or doing drugs he's off and loose his scholarship. Doesn't matter. Cop gives him the breathalyzer test. He blows 0.0 Cop then says he's on drugs and arrests him. Takes him in. They do a blood draw. Kid is in jail for a day then gets out on bond. In the meantime the blood test comes back and the kid has nothing in his system. Goes before the judge, case dismissed. Judge isn't happy with the cop. The City, the police force and the cop get sued. The case showed a consistent pattern of arrest with no actual DUI. Costs them a ton of money and the cop was fired. Chief also got some sort of reprimand for letting this go on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdog Dago Dom Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 Stories I could tell you. The police promotional practice of "screw up and move up" is real. My personal theory is that when you reach a certain rank, you stop being a cop and start being a politician. Regarding LEO retirement: I miss the clowns, but I don't miss the circus. Glad this is behind you. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 Just finished serving on a jury in a DUI case and after the body camera footage from the arresting officers camera was shown I was pretty sure there wasn’t going to be a guilty verdict. It was very offensive and hard to watch and I looked at everyone that I could see in the courtroom including the judge and they couldn’t watch either. The lady juror next to me had tears running down her cheeks. The way the guy treated this woman was incredibly bad, I heard one officer in the background ask if he was going to keep making her do “stupid human tricks”. Anyway I ended up being the jury foreman (I’ll never be on a jury again that’s for sure) and it ended in a hung jury and a mistrial. There was overwhelming medical and biological evidence that she was driving while impaired and intoxicated but because of the way the officer treated her a guilty verdict wasn’t going to happen. I asked the four holdouts if there was anyway they’d be convinced to change their vote to guilty and they all said “No” that the lady had been put through enough. I’m pretty sure this guy was one of the few police officers that treat women that way. We had a laptop in the jury room and the video was played multiple times and it wasn’t any easier to watch any time it was played. My wife said I should write a letter to the police chief and tell him my thoughts on the officers behavior and a sheriffs deputy friend of mine said that he was probably aware of it already. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 2 hours ago, Lawdog Dago Dom said: Stories I could tell you. My personal theory is that when you reach a certain rank, you stop being a cop and start being a politician. Same thing in the military, (for the most part). Even though I've been out for over 30 years, it was obvious back then that any officer over Lt. Col. was more politician than warrior. The one exception I saw was Col. Al Grey. When he was made Regimental Commander of the 6th. Marines, one of the first things that happened was that the entire Regiment received BRANDY NEW weapons. M16A1s, M60 machine guns, 81mm Mortars, all brand new. He went on to be Commandant of the Marine Corps, and he made huge changes there too. He'd have made a great Secretary of Defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted November 22 Author Share Posted November 22 2 hours ago, Yul Lose said: Just finished serving on a jury in a DUI case and after the body camera footage from the arresting officers camera was shown I was pretty sure there wasn’t going to be a guilty verdict. It was very offensive and hard to watch and I looked at everyone that I could see in the courtroom including the judge and they couldn’t watch either. The lady juror next to me had tears running down her cheeks. The way the guy treated this woman was incredibly bad, I heard one officer in the background ask if he was going to keep making her do “stupid human tricks”. Anyway I ended up being the jury foreman (I’ll never be on a jury again that’s for sure) and it ended in a hung jury and a mistrial. There was overwhelming medical and biological evidence that she was driving while impaired and intoxicated but because of the way the officer treated her a guilty verdict wasn’t going to happen. I asked the four holdouts if there was anyway they’d be convinced to change their vote to guilty and they all said “No” that the lady had been put through enough. I’m pretty sure this guy was one of the few police officers that treat women that way. We had a laptop in the jury room and the video was played multiple times and it wasn’t any easier to watch any time it was played. My wife said I should write a letter to the police chief and tell him my thoughts on the officers behavior and a sheriffs deputy friend of mine said that he was probably aware of it already. This is called "jury nullification" meaning all of the elements of the crime have been met, so the defendant is technically guilty, but the jury refuses to convict. In your case, it was due to professionalism(or lack thereof), but I want every Second Amendment advocate to know about the practice. Neither the lawyers nor the judge are allowed to tell you about it. But you have the option. 50 minutes ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: Same thing in the military, (for the most part). Even though I've been out for over 30 years, it was obvious back then that any officer over Lt. Col. was more politician than warrior. Pard...I'm over Lieutenant Colonel... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 1 hour ago, Cyrus Cassidy #45437 said: This is called "jury nullification" meaning all of the elements of the crime have been met, so the defendant is technically guilty, but the jury refuses to convict. In your case, it was due to professionalism(or lack thereof), but I want every Second Amendment advocate to know about the practice. Neither the lawyers nor the judge are allowed to tell you about it. But you have the option. Pard...I'm over Lieutenant Colonel... Absolutely no offence meant. I said for the most part because there are some warriors that rise in the ranks and don't forget why they're there in the first place. Forty Rod, and Utah Bob come to mind. Also why I mentioned General Gray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubious Don #56333 Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 15 hours ago, Cyrus Cassidy #45437 said: This is called "jury nullification" meaning all of the elements of the crime have been met, so the defendant is technically guilty, but the jury refuses to convict. In your case, it was due to professionalism(or lack thereof), but I want every Second Amendment advocate to know about the practice. Neither the lawyers nor the judge are allowed to tell you about it. But you have the option. Pard...I'm over Lieutenant Colonel... I'm happy that you eventually prevailed, Brother. While my experiences don't quite mirror yours, I saw many of the same things in my forty years as a Peace Officer. Happily retired but I stayed on as a Reserve simply because I enjoy giving back to "My Family." When the family business sometimes involves picking up dog turds, one does his or her best to do the best job they can without getting any on themselves. Not always an easy task. Life is full of challenges. Once upon a time, "we" got a new provost Marshal. That billet was slated for an O-5 LtCol. He was an O-6. They sent him to us after we was unselected for higher rank. It was unusual for the Provost Marshal to attend Guardmounts. But he did, for all four shifts of two Platoons so everyone heard his welcome speech, his goals and intentions. Personally. One of the finest Officers I served under. Along the way I saw, that for one to rise in the ranks (much as it is in local law enforcement) above a certain level, a modicum of "political prowess" is required. I worked for a number of those, including a guy who was on the LT's list and lets just say what "the department" asked him to do, he wouldn't. Today he's just a Beat Cop. Happily finishing out his time. And those in the upper echelons? Un-elected by the voters that next cycle and gone. The rest of us put what was left of our department back together and drove onward. Not that the old guard was bad. Truth, sometimes, is a matter of perspective rather than black/white. But truth IS that, too. Honest mistakes were made along with some intentional ones. One of the most important lessons I learned in forty years was perspective. God Bless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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