Assassination attempt

[Mister Badly]

3 minutes ago, Dirty Dan Dawkins said:

the voices of carefully selected delegates are empowered now- which the populace had no part in selecting, and has no part in directing.

Kinda like Trump's alternate electors. By the way, are we talking politics on the wire?

[Dirty Dan Dawkins]

1 hour ago, Texas Joker said:

Honestly curious on the process here:  Biden won delegates in the primaries.  he drops out doesn't the no.2 primary winner have the most delegates going into the D N convention? Was she even on the primary tickets for president?

 

I mean if he dies she gets the office but if he withdraws she doesn't automatically get the nod for candidate.

She was not. But that's not how it works and not how it will play out.

34 minutes ago, Mister Badly said:

Kinda like Trump's alternate electors. By the way, are we talking politics on the wire?

No. Civics. LOL

34 minutes ago, Mister Badly said:

Kinda like Trump's alternate electors. By the way, are we talking politics on the wire?

Absolutely correct. Not that it was any better, but that was something individuals worked to orchestrate, not the party at large. Now a truly democratic electoral college system would split electoral college votes representative of the votes. Not winner take all. Personally, I kinda like that idea as candidates would need to work for all of the votes, not the 1-2% of the votes needed to win the majority and consequently win all of the electoral votes for that state, which is where we are now- focusing on less than 6-7 states as all others are more or les party locked. This also amplifies the impact of big donor donations (to focus on winning these swing states) and the expected favors in return.

The effects of cheating would also be minimized.

California and New York wound be effectively neutered in presidential elections. 

[Pat Riot]

2 minutes ago, Mister Badly said:

Kinda like Trump's alternate electors. By the way, are we talking politics on the wire?

I have a feeling the Mods are watching and keeping an eye on the thermometer, if you know what I mean. 

[John Kloehr]

1 hour ago, Texas Joker said:

Honestly curious on the process here:  Biden won delegates in the primaries.  he drops out doesn't the no.2 primary winner have the most delegates going into the D N convention? Was she even on the primary tickets for president?

 

I mean if he dies she gets the office but if he withdraws she doesn't automatically get the nod for candidate.

See the last section of this article, though the previous sections provide some context:

 

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/20/biden-democratic-convention-nominee-rules-00169821

[Texas Joker]

1 hour ago, Pat Riot said:

I have a feeling the Mods are watching and keeping an eye on the thermometer, if you know what I mean. 

So I get this sentiment not looking for partisan views.

 

But really trying to understand the process.  I know the difference between a primary and a caucus. I get that delegates go to convention and vote for a candidate. But aren't most primary/ caucuses complete by now?

 

I'd fell pretty butthurt if I was a very strong #2 at a tournament and the #1 guy dropped out and I didn't even get a spot on the podium.

 

So other than kamala who was actually in the primaries that could get the nod?

[Rye Miles #13621]

2 minutes ago, Texas Joker said:

So I get this sentiment not looking for partisan views.

 

But really trying to understand the process.  I know the difference between a primary and a caucus. I get that delegates go to convention and vote for a candidate. But aren't most primary/ caucuses complete by now?

 

I'd fell pretty butthurt if I was a very strong #2 at a tournament and the #1 guy dropped out and I didn't even get a spot on the podium.

 

So other than kamala who was actually in the primaries that could get the nod?

As I understand it, it's an open convention and the delegates can vote for whomever they want. Kamela was endorsed by Biden but that doesn't mean the delegates have to vote for her. Remember he didn't drop out as POTUS he dropped out of the race for the next election. He will continue his term. If he dropped out right now as POTUS then Kamela would be president until Jan 2025. I could be wrong but that's the way I understand it.

[Pat Riot]

It would be best for the nation if Gavin Newsom ran, after giving up his Governorship…and lost. 
 

All this doesn’t matter. Big Money has spoken. 

 

 

 

NOTE: In 2023 several money, stock and finance websites stated things like “when Trump takes office…blah, blah, blah the economy will make a turn around…the real inflation rate will be decreased…prices on goods will reset…etc, etc, etc…”

 

The links / sites where I saw this no longer say that. It seems they were, um…modified. 

 

And if you’re thinking “Pat Riot has lost it” or “He is full of crap! The internet is forever.”

You’re right. So go feel better about yourself now. Enjoy. 

[Mister Badly]

6 minutes ago, Pat Riot said:

All this doesn’t matter. Big Money has spoken. 

Just to be clear. Big money speaks on both sides. 

[Pat Riot]

1 hour ago, Mister Badly said:

Just to be clear. Big money speaks on both sides. 

Yes, to suit their own needs, NOT the needs of our country. 

[Gracos Kid]

2 hours ago, Mister Badly said:

Just to be clear. Big money speaks on both sides. 

Money not only speaks, it screams LOUDLY......

[Cypress Sun]

23 minutes ago, Gracos Kid said:

Money not only speaks, it screams LOUDLY......

 

It's always been about the money. Palms get greased and the real winners are who ultimately profits from the policies enacted....that's never the American people.

 

 

[Smokin Gator SASS #29736]

Harris poled at 3% when she attempted to run for the nomination.

[Trailrider #896]

Security failure: Regardless of politics; regardless of who will be running for president, the major lack of proper security planning and production, the Secret Service, and perhaps the FBI and local police that preceded the attempted assassination of Former President Donald Trump fouled up like Hogan's goat! Cheatle should be fired, not just given the opportunity to resign! Her "testimony" before the bi-partisan House committee was full of evasion and obfuscation.  Members of Congress examined the site and a 72 year-old climbed up on the room of the building where the shooter lay, and another pointed out that there should have been a counter-sniper team on a water tower adjacent to the building! 

[Mister Badly]

2 hours ago, Trailrider #896 said:

Members of Congress examined the site and a 72 year-old climbed up on the room of the building where the shooter lay, and another pointed out that there should have been a counter-sniper team on a water tower adjacent to the building

Well, members of Congress are experts at security. A local law enforcement sniper did see him and apparently communication through chain of command was inadequate to say the least. As far as water towers go for countering an attack their limited viewing radius makes them less than ideal 

[Cypress Sun]

4 minutes ago, Mister Badly said:

Well, members of Congress are experts at security. A local law enforcement sniper did see him and apparently communication through chain of command was inadequate to say the least. As far as water towers go for countering an attack their limited viewing radius makes them less than ideal 

 

I was thinking that the 2 story building behind the sniper's position would have been a better place. Like I said before though....3 - 12 year old kids with drones could have prevented this.

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

43 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said:

Like I said before though....3 - 12 year old kids with drones could have prevented this.

The kids were probably paid off by the CIA to stay out of it.

[watab kid]

interesting hearings today with the head of the secret service - even the democrats are calling for her head , no-one in the biden admin has paid a price [lost their job/position] for any failings so far , by default that accepts what happened as acceptable , is that what we are to take away from the party thAT WANTS TO SAVE DEMOCRACY ? 

[Pat Riot]

4 hours ago, watab kid said:

interesting hearings today with the head of the secret service - even the democrats are calling for her head , no-one in the biden admin has paid a price [lost their job/position] for any failings so far , by default that accepts what happened as acceptable , is that what we are to take away from the party thAT WANTS TO SAVE DEMOCRACY ? 

I know you know this but I have made it my duty, and joyfully so around certain types of people, to ensure that everyone understands that we do not live in a democracy. The United States is a Republic. 
 

 

[Chicken Rustler, SASS #26680]

2 hours ago, Pat Riot said:

I know you know this but I have made it my duty, and joyfully so around certain types of people, to ensure that everyone understands that we do not live in a democracy. The United States is a Republic. 
 

 

Our Constitutional Republic is a representative democracy instead of direct democracy, but it's still a form of democracy. Maybe you're thinking of the Republic of China or the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea?

[Pat Riot]

6 minutes ago, Chicken Rustler, SASS #26680 said:

Our Constitutional Republic is a representative democracy instead of direct democracy, but it's still a form of democracy. Maybe you're thinking of the Republic of China or the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea?

I am thinking of the Pledge of Allegiance. The Constitution outlines a Constitutional Republic. 
https://www.usconstitution.net/republic-vs-democracy/

[Chicken Rustler, SASS #26680]

16 minutes ago, Pat Riot said:

I am thinking of the Pledge of Allegiance. The Constitution outlines a Constitutional Republic. 
https://www.usconstitution.net/republic-vs-democracy/

Careful, you don't want to give the impression you're going by the Pledge of Allegiance instead of the Constitution!

I read your link, including this part

"In the United States, the role of democracy within the republic is crucial, embodying the very essence of the electoral process and the engagement of the citizenry in governmental decisions. Although the U.S. Constitution does not embody a pure form of democracy where laws and policies are directly decreed by citizen vote, it enshrines the democratic principle through the election of representatives who, in turn, influence legislation and governance."

and this part

"The conflation of 'democracy' and 'republic' in contemporary usage often obscures their distinct historical and constitutional meanings. A democracy, in its purest form as practiced in ancient Athens, involves direct participation of the citizenry in legislative decisions. While democratic, this approach was deemed impractical and potentially volatile by the framers of the U.S. Constitution, leading them to form a constitutional republic. This system combines representative democracy with foundational laws that protect individual rights and minority opinions against the potential tyranny of the majority."

The important part of Constitutional Republic is the Constitution, we're a Republic that functions as a representative democracy. Republic was traditionally used to distinguish us from a Monarchy, but these days we don't want to confuse our government with other Republics which are very much not like us.

[Marshal Dan Troop 70448]

46 minutes ago, Pat Riot said:

I am thinking of the Pledge of Allegiance. The Constitution outlines a Constitutional Republic. 
https://www.usconstitution.net/republic-vs-democracy/

 

[Cypress Sun]

 

Cheatle resigns....

[Trailrider #896]

2 hours ago, Cypress Sun said:

 

Cheatle resigns....

Her boss should also resign!

[Cypress Sun]

38 minutes ago, Trailrider #896 said:

Her boss should also resign!

 

Careful what you wish for.

That would make Harris POTUS. IMO, that's even worse than Biden.

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

1 hour ago, Cypress Sun said:

Careful what you wish for.

That would make Harris POTUS. IMO, that's even worse than Biden.

I think that she already is. 

[Cypress Sun]

14 minutes ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said:

I think that she already is. 

 

Never was, but then....neither was Biden.

[Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967]

2 hours ago, Trailrider #896 said:

Her boss should also resign!

 

1 hour ago, Cypress Sun said:

 

Careful what you wish for.

That would make Harris POTUS. IMO, that's even worse than Biden.

 

Noooo... Cheatle's boss should resign.  That would be Mayorkis.

[Cypress Sun]

Just now, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said:

 

 

Noooo... Cheatle's boss should resign.  That would be Mayorkis.

 

I don't think he should resign. He should be FIRED.

[Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967]

7 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said:

 

I don't think he should resign. He should be FIRED.

 

C'mon, Cyprus ~ surely you can think of something more imaginitive than a simple firing...!  

 

For instance: Suspended by the ankles from an overpass over a busy freeway... just high enough for his fingertips to barely brush the tops of passing semi's, sometimes facing incoming traffic, sometimes away.  Reel 'im in every hour or so for a drink of water, then rotate and back over.         

[Cypress Sun]

14 minutes ago, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said:

 

C'mon, Cyprus ~ surely you can think of something more imaginitive than a simple firing...!  

 

For instance: Suspended by the ankles from an overpass over a busy freeway... just high enough for his fingertips to barely brush the tops of passing semi's, sometimes facing incoming traffic, sometimes away.  Reel 'im in every hour or so for a drink of water, then rotate and back over.         

 

Notice I didn't say what he should be fired thru.

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

1 hour ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said:

I think that she already is. 

 

44 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said:

 

Never was, but then....neither was Biden.

Agreed. They are both puppets for somebody else. Obama maybe. 

But what I'm talking about, is that since that letter from, Biden came out, I think that there is a decent chance that when we DO actually hear from him, he will resign due to some medical reason, and let Kamala heroically take over AS President so that she can run as an incumbent. 

I hear that there was some medical emergency in Las Vegas last week. He might actually be dead, so it could actually turn out to be a "Dave" type scenario, but letting her take over instead of replacing him with a look-a-like.

But all that might just be the storyteller in me coming out to play. 

[Subdeacon Joe]

2 hours ago, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said:

C'mon, Cyprus ~ surely you can think of something more imaginitive than a simple firing...!  

 

Maybe a high speed inspection of the bore of Mk. 7 16/50.

[Dirty Dan Dawkins]

On 7/23/2024 at 4:46 PM, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said:

 

 

On 7/23/2024 at 5:46 PM, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said:

 

Agreed. They are both puppets for somebody else. Obama maybe. 

The world bank, IMF, UN.  The United States middle class is a collective slave to them all. If it were not for the FED printing money and benevolently sending money around the world to prop up 1st world European defenses, along with 2nd and 3rd world despots (democracy isn't important), our personal wealth and the buying power of the US dollar would be greater. These damned "wars" have not helped either, and they do little to nothing to benefit me and you. Borrowed money, deficit spending and borrowed lives to fund overseas excursions. The money press cannot stop. Someone had to be implanted to ensure it keeps going, once the charade masquerading the realities of Biden's condition. Biden blew his own cover long ago, that he has not been fully in charge of his faculties and duties (i.e.- "I've been handed a list of reporters...", "I've been told not to answer questions", "which way do I go?", mouth agape). If the average voter were allowed more opportunities to draw conclusions based upon observation, then maybe more would conclude the BS we are constantly fed isn't reality.  

[Marshal Dan Troop 70448]

Filled my truck today, saw the gas had gone up 25 cents (higher at many other stations), a gallon since last Friday. As I was filling up the guy filling up across from me asked if I knew why the big jump? I said no I didn't. He said all the stations raised their rates when it was announced that Kamala would be running.