Texas Jack Black Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 I am starting to get ready to emerge after my back fusion and I have several powders in multiples what would be a good load for a cowboy 45 case with a 160 gr. RNFP.? I thank You
Lucky R. K. Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 I have used 2F and 3F granulations from Swiss, Goex, Schuetzen, and Elephant, all with satisfactory results for our game. About 15 grains of any of these would be good for the 45 Cowboy Special cartridge. For precision shooting there is only one, Swiss. Just my opinion. Lucky
Texas Jack Black Posted November 25, 2023 Author Posted November 25, 2023 19 minutes ago, Warden Callaway said: I do use Black when loading my early Colts and Winchesters. I also watch your videos very enjoyable.
Eyesa Horg Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 I've been using 4.2gr Clays or Clay-Dot for that 160gr. pill in C45S. Currently trying CleanShot, at 4.4gr It milder than the Clays load, but leaves a yellow/gold debris which seems harmless, but I find it a tad distracting as I can see it come out the muzzle! When it warms up in a few months, I'll experiment some more. Cleanshot can be had by our great supporter Scarlett Darlin and others. Clays seems to be currently unobtanium.
Texas Jack Black Posted November 25, 2023 Author Posted November 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: OP, list your powders. Unique Red Dot Tite Group Clays Bulls Eye 231 Accurate 9 Accurate 5 VV 320 Noble Sport B9, AO,BA9 Hi Skor 700x T B And Black and all the subs I want to save some TB and use up some of the others Thank You
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 I shot 4Gr TightGroup for years before becoming Enlightened to the Dark. Were I shooting TightGroup today, I'd be shooting 160Gr Coated bullets from Scarlett. Or Missouri Bullet Co.
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 I'm shooting BullsEye right now, have shot WST, Clays, ClayDot, RedDot and TiteGroup. All work fine. It's just a gallery load, and not even an accuracy target load. Most anything works. GJ
Texas Jack Black Posted November 25, 2023 Author Posted November 25, 2023 Thank You all Any good loads using 17 minutes ago, Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 said: I'm shooting BullsEye right now, have shot WST, Clays, ClayDot, RedDot and TiteGroup. All work fine. It's just a gallery load, and not even an accuracy target load. Most anything works. GJ how about 4 gr Tite Group with the coated 160 ? 44 minutes ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: I shot 4Gr TightGroup for years before becoming Enlightened to the Dark. Were I shooting TightGroup today, I'd be shooting 160Gr Coated bullets from Scarlett. Or Missouri Bullet Co. Thank You
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 What works best kinda depends a bit on where you are shooting...temps, altitude... Phantom
Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Texas Jack Black said: Unique Red Dot Tite Group Clays Bulls Eye 231 Accurate 9 Accurate 5 VV 320 Noble Sport B9, AO,BA9 Hi Skor 700x T B And Black and all the subs I want to save some TB and use up some of the others Thank You I've loaded the two Accurate powders for other purposes. They are slower burning powders than I would choose for CAS. You are fortunate to have your powder stash. Supplies are still spotty and prices horrible.
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 4.2 grains BE with 160 to 180 grain bullets is fine. I use a 175 grain TC conventional lube myself - cheap and easy to make. I didn't like 4.0 grains TG - had to get to about 4.5 grains to suit me for consistent performance and cleaner cases. GJ
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Texas Jack Black said: Unique Red Dot Tite Group Clays Bulls Eye 231 Accurate 9 Accurate 5 VV 320 Noble Sport B9, AO,BA9 Hi Skor 700x T B And Black and all the subs I want to save some TB and use up some of the others Thank You Try 5.5gn of WW231
Texas Jack Black Posted November 25, 2023 Author Posted November 25, 2023 50 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Try 5.5gn of WW231 Will do Thank You 1 hour ago, Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 said: 4.2 grains BE with 160 to 180 grain bullets is fine. I use a 175 grain TC conventional lube myself - cheap and easy to make. I didn't like 4.0 grains TG - had to get to about 4.5 grains to suit me for consistent performance and cleaner cases. GJ Thank You
Texas Jack Black Posted November 25, 2023 Author Posted November 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 said: I've loaded the two Accurate powders for other purposes. They are slower burning powders than I would choose for CAS. You are fortunate to have your powder stash. Supplies are still spotty and prices horrible. Been shooting for over 50 years and always stay well supplied.
Griff Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 With the 160 pill from Badman, I've been loading 3.4 grains of Clays set off by a WLP primer for years. Winter, Spring, Summer & Fall, from WA to FL, TX to MI, not a whit of variance, shoots about the same.
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 5 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Try 5.5gn of WW231 I don't believe it! He has Unique, but Lumpy suggested 231!
Michigan Slim Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 54 minutes ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said: I don't believe it! He has Unique, but Lumpy suggested 231! Because Unique is special right now. Best powder in the bunch. I'm saving mine just for my little girls shotshells.
Texas Jack Black Posted November 26, 2023 Author Posted November 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said: I don't believe it! He has Unique, but Lumpy suggested 231! And I have 19 pounds of Unique anyone use it in the cowboy 45 with a 160 pill
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted November 26, 2023 Posted November 26, 2023 35 minutes ago, Texas Jack Black said: And I have 19 pounds of Unique anyone use it in the cowboy 45 with a 160 pill Look at .45acp load data. I have always used 231 in my .45acp loads. 231 was developed especially for the .45 acp cartridge.
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 26, 2023 Posted November 26, 2023 If you gave erroneous load data...would it even matter?
Cholla Posted November 26, 2023 Posted November 26, 2023 The C45S is almost identical to the 45 Autorim. Speer doesn't have a listing for a 160-grain bullet. But they list the minimum charge for Unique for a 200-grain bullet as 5.0 and the maximum as 5.5 grains. I would try the 5.0 and see how you like it.
Texas Jack Black Posted November 26, 2023 Author Posted November 26, 2023 I heard Lumpy uses Unique instead of PEPPER
Idaho Gunslinger Posted November 26, 2023 Posted November 26, 2023 I'm running 4.0 grs of Promo (Red Dot) behind the 130gr Barnstormers in the C45S. I get a little unburned powder when the temps are below 20 in the winter but so far they've been very reliable year round.
BenW Posted November 26, 2023 Posted November 26, 2023 I've been using Win 244 (.38 Spec) but it has applications for .45 Auto. I'd use it there if I was loading C45S. Seems to be quite available. You might look at it.
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