Interesting question - what would you do with the drugs?

[Alpo]

I'm reading Without Remorse. The first John Clark book. Drug dealers killed his girlfriend so he's taking revenge by killing off all of these dealers.

 

He's just killed the first two, and so the police won't realize that somebody is targeting drug dealers, he took their money and their drugs, to look like a robbery.

 

And as he's driving home he's wondering -- what am I going to do with the drugs?

 

That's actually a good question. He could toss them into any random dumpster, but if they were found that would kind of put a crimp in the rip off story. I mean who robs somebody for their money and drugs and then throws the drugs away?

 

He could take them home and flush them. But that would depend on how many there is and how they're packaged. This is heroin and from my reading and from TV and movies it seems like heroin comes individually packaged about the size of a package of sugar, but it's a plastic container, not paper. I suppose you could drop three or four of them in the toilet flush them away at a time. It would probably be better to open the package and put them down the sink and just wash them down the drain, but then you got all these plastic bags with drug residue in your house.

 

How would you get rid of the drugs?

[Rip Snorter]

WD 40, lots.

[Badlands Bob #61228]

Throw it in the water.  Lake, creek, river, flush it down toilet.  I believe he lives on an island in the book.  Throw it in the lake on the way home.

[Alpo]

I suppose that would work well at changing the heroin into something that no one would wish to shoot into their veins.

 

But you still have the physical drugs. Or the plastic bags with the drug residue, if you tore the bags open and flush the powder.

 

So again, what would you do with them?

 

The question is not so much how to make them so they are no longer usable as a recreational pharmaceutical, but how to get them out of your hands, so you don't get caught with them.

[PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L]

[Sedalia Dave]

48 minutes ago, PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L said:

 

 

THIS^^^^

[Michigan Slim]

Oh, sure. Six people sitting around the fire. One has smoke in his face. Five fighting for his spot.

 

[Michigan Slim]

DO NOT FLUSH DRUGS OR MEDS DOWN THE TOILLET. It doesn't get treated in my system and goes right to the river. Not good for the fishes.

[Texas Joker]

Major metro areas have sensors in the sewers and can track contaminants to their source

[El Chapo]

2 hours ago, Alpo said:

I suppose that would work well at changing the heroin into something that no one would wish to shoot into their veins.

 

But you still have the physical drugs. Or the plastic bags with the drug residue, if you tore the bags open and flush the powder.

 

So again, what would you do with them?

 

The question is not so much how to make them so they are no longer usable as a recreational pharmaceutical, but how to get them out of your hands, so you don't get caught with them.

 

I'm pretty sure the majority of the heroin in this country has been transported in a body orifice.

[Cypress Sun]

Package securely and bury the drugs deep in a place where it is unlikely that anyone would ever dig them up. You may need them for "collateral" or money down the road. I can't see any sense in taking the proverbial high road, after all...he's a murderer even though the scum he killed deserved to die.

[Bailey Creek,5759]

Sell them. Money will pay for Bullets.

[Pat Riot]

Simple. I wouldn’t take the drugs. 
An anonymous call to the police. Let them find the body and the drugs. They will get credit for taking drugs off the street. It would look like money was the reason for the murder. 

 

I would definitely keep the money. 

[PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L]

1 hour ago, El Chapo said:

 

I'm pretty sure the majority of the heroin in this country has been transported in a body orifice.

 

I'm "pretty sure" that's not exactly so. 

[bgavin]

Throw them out the window in the Kensington section of Philly 

[Creeker, SASS #43022]

On 9/18/2023 at 6:56 PM, Pat Riot said:

Simple. I wouldn’t take the drugs. 
An anonymous call to the police. Let them find the body and the drugs. They will get credit for taking drugs off the street. It would look like money was the reason for the murder. 

 

I would definitely keep the money. 

Yup - make your life as easy as possible.

Dead bad guys - plenty of cash; no need to introduce the task of drug disposal into the equation.

 

The risk of being caught with the drugs either trying to destroy them or liquidate them creates infinitely more risk than any benefit of hiding intent or additional financial resources may gain. 

[Presidio]

On 9/18/2023 at 8:56 PM, Pat Riot said:

Simple. I wouldn’t take the drugs. 
An anonymous call to the police. Let them find the body and the drugs. They will get credit for taking drugs off the street. It would look like money was the reason for the murder. 

 

I would definitely keep the money. 

Yup.  Works for me.

[Charlie Harley, #14153]

Great book.  One of Tom Clancy’s best.

 

As to your original question, a good burn barrel would do the trick.

 

But John Clark has a better idea…

[Matthew Duncan]

On 9/18/2023 at 7:09 PM, PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L said:

Just make sure you stand up wind.

 

I’d slit each package and drop them all down a sewer manhole one package at a time.

Edited September 20 by Matthew Duncan

[Pat Riot]

43 minutes ago, Charlie Harley, #14153 said:

But John Clark has a better idea…

What was his idea?

 

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Some of the reasons I said I would just leave the drugs is:

1. Like @Creeker, SASS #43022said. I wouldn’t want to get caught with them. 
2. Burning them attracts attention and since “drugs” is the only description, we don’t know what they are not only might burning attract attention, you may release toxins into the air. 
3. Dumping them down the toilet, drain or sewer introduces possible unknown toxins into the water supply. 

4. Giving or selling them to a drug dealer comes with WAY too much baggage. If you don’t travel in the drug world you don’t know the players and you did a good thing keeping them off the street, why put them back out there. 
5. Burying them would probably be a good idea but there are problems that come with that. Labor - I ain’t doing labor to bury anything. My back has enough problems. 

Discovery - I would hate to be toiling over a a shovel in a strange place and have someone or the police see me.

6. Hiding them somewhere might be a good short term idea, but they could be discovered eventually.

Just transporting them could be the start of a bad life experience. Comedies have been based on such things…so have police dramas. 

[Alpo]

23 minutes ago, Pat Riot said:

What was his idea?

That's a good question. I don't think it said. Or if it did it didn't register and I just kind of slid my eyes over that sentence.

[Matthew Duncan]

7 hours ago, Creeker, SASS #43022 said:

Yup - make your life as easy as possible.

Dead bad guys - plenty of cash; no need to introduce the task of drug disposal into the equation.

 

The risk of being caught with the drugs either trying to destroy them or liquidate them creates infinitely more risk than any benefit of hiding intent or additional financial resources may gain. 

I think the bigger risk was already taken in murdering the two Drug Dealers.  Drug disposal would be minor IMHO.

[Matthew Duncan]

On 9/18/2023 at 8:04 PM, Michigan Slim said:

DO NOT FLUSH DRUGS OR MEDS DOWN THE TOILLET. It doesn't get treated in my system and goes right to the river. Not good for the fishes.

And if I became a suspect I wouldn’t want any drug residue to be found in or around my toilet. 

[Okie Sawbones, SASS #77381]

PARTY! PARTY! PARTY!

[Creeker, SASS #43022]

2 hours ago, Matthew Duncan said:

I think the bigger risk was already taken in murdering the two Drug Dealers.  Drug disposal would be minor IMHO.

Killing is quick.

Paperwork takes up all the time.

 

Use a shotgun - basically ballistically invisible. 

pop - pop...

Retain the shells so nothing exists for comparable purposes.

Grab the money and I am out of here.

Storage container the money in an anonymous rental.

My task is over. 

Start to finish - less than an hour; I can be back at home watching the 2nd half of the football game before anyone even knows the dealers are dead.

 

Contrast that with grabbing the drugs as well.

Now I'm not done - I have to transport product that is INSTANTLY recognized as illegal (shotguns and cash are not).

I have to store drugs "somewhere" that can be hit upon by a drug dog (accidentally or otherwise).

Drug containers can burst from heat and the product smell draws attention.

I can try to destroy it and run the risk of being caught with it.

I can try to liquidate it - but I don't know those people so I expose myself to robbery risk or exposure (roll on me in a heartbeat if they get caught).

Additionally, when someone gets busted or talks - "Where did the drugs come from?".

Either the authorities will tie me to the killings by the presence of the drugs OR the other dealers in the area will (and if I killed and stole from the higher up dealers before - regardless of my reasons; they are not going to risk me doing it again to them).

 

No, as someone who has considered this very scenario (and even the challenges of accounting for millions of dollars in cash).

 

Leave the drugs - take the cannoli.

 

 

[Charlie Harley, #14153]

4 hours ago, Pat Riot said:

What was his idea?

 

4 hours ago, Alpo said:

That's a good question. I don't think it said. Or if it did it didn't register and I just kind of slid my eyes over that sentence.

The mole who compromised the Sender Green mission was a spoiled rich snot nosed low-level functionary in a congressman's office.  When John Clark found out who it was, he paid him a visit and used some of the retained heroin to inject the guy with a lethal overdose.  That is, after he gave the guy a thorough understanding of just how badly he'd screwed up.

 

"Hey, they took their chances."

 

"And you, sir, took yours."

 

Yes, Without Remorse is one of my all time favorite books.  Might have to pull it out and read it again.

[Alpo]

Ah, yes. Haven't got that far. Been many years since I've read this.

 

He just took Billy to his Island and bent him a little bit, and dropped him off. Took Doris to Sandy who has brought her back to reality. And Doris has just spoken to her father on the phone.

 

Now if memory serves, they're going to get Doris more better, then take her home. Daddy had gotten off the booze, and the preacher would come by frequently. Now that Doris was home the preacher - nosy sumbitch - got her to tell what had happened, and did not keep this to himself but told somebody - dirty cop? clean cop who told the dirty cop? - and the word got back to Henry and his friends who came to Doris's house and killed her and her daddy.

[Matthew Duncan]

More I think about it the more I agree with leave the drugs and call the cops.  If you dispose of the drugs yourself the cops will suspect something is wrong when the drugs don’t show up on the streets for sale.

 

Now if a firearm related forum hasn’t gotten the interest of the Federal alphabet agencies, adding executing drug dealers and how to dispose of illegal drugs should help to do so.

Edited September 21 by Matthew Duncan

[Texas Maverick]

I think the best way is to just drop the drugs off at TW's garage and keep the money and go back home. 

 

TM

[El Chapo]

On 9/18/2023 at 8:14 PM, PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L said:

 

I'm "pretty sure" that's not exactly so. 

 

I guess there's no way to know for sure.  But I can tell you for sure that there are pounds of it coming over the border every single day in body cavities.