The Gun Control crowd

[Buckshot Bob]

2 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

 

That much I can agree with.  And I can't blame the schools for that.  That's squarely on the shoulders of the politicians.

 

 

I can blame the schools. The school board should be screaming to get rid of gun free zones and be lobbying for increased security. Not actively assisting the politicians in making the problem worse, or just going along to get along. Most now just actively support being a victim . It probably won’t change the politicians agenda but why make it easy for them 

[PowderRiverCowboy]

32 minutes ago, Buckshot Bob said:

I can blame the schools. The school board should be screaming to get rid of gun free zones and be lobbying for increased security. Not actively assisting the politicians in making the problem worse, or just going along to get along. Most now just actively support being a victim . It probably won’t change the politicians agenda but why make it easy for them 

 You forget schools are condoning the Pride movement adding litter boxes to bathrooms .

Hales AR had a "Pistol Brace " as a upstanding member of society based off of Love is Love accept all do you think SHE was planning on registering it as a SBR ?
 

[Okie Sawbones, SASS #77381]

There are 393 million firearms in the US. The US has the highest amount of firearms per capita.

[J-BAR #18287]

1 hour ago, Buckshot Bob said:

The school board should be screaming to get rid of gun free zones and be lobbying for increased security. 

 

As I have suggested before, I would like to see school administrative staff put their own skin in the game.  Eliminate separate buildings for administrators.  Each central staff member should have their office in one of the schools.  I bet security would improve, funded by sale of the administrative buildings, savings on the maintenance of those buildings, and saving the salaries of those administrators who resign rather than take the same risk that they expect teachers and students to take.

[PowderRiverCowboy]

The fact of the matter is it’s an agenda Politicians have long forgotten they work for us . 
 I don’t care how you feel about “assault rifles “  but ask Canada how that worked for them . First AR’s and now opps no pistols ! 
 

 

[Fallon Kid]

Guns needing to be removed from public hands. OLDE NUMBER NINE:
Needs no introduction as even the youngest school kids know the history of Olde Number Nine. This history has been available for over 250 years but I think a rehash of how this all came to be is important to understand why this is being suggested for the “ban it Now list” We all know the story of Maximillian Flint who was trying to solve a problem raging across European cities in the late 1600’s and 1700’s. This problem raged as far north as Norway, to southern Spain and even as far west as South Bend. ‘How to get that pesky middle Vienna sausage out of the can’. Maximillian tried to invent a device with a barrel and low pressure system that could be gently pushed down over the sausage and then expelled with a small puff of smoke. It did not work as planned as the surrounding delicacies experienced too much damage for an acceptable presentation at formal dinners. Also the expulsion mechanics were way too expensive for just one fine sausage. Additionally another inventor (B. Hunter Brandon) had had modified his product, ‘The Brandon Weiner Dipper’ to take care of these soft and mushy delights. Leaving Mr. Flint broken and humbled.
All was not lost on this idea, as an apprentice working for Mr. Flint thought this could be used as a ‘popper’ or noise maker for New Year Eve and Arbor Day. Mr. Frank Locke thought by increasing the sausage expulsion propellant and putting a cork in the muzzle of the long pipe, a crowd pleasing ‘pop’ could be enjoyed by young and old alike. Mr. Locke tried this at an Arbor Day BBQ and the result upset most of the guests due to the noise and foul smoke generated. While Frank was bent over with the dry heaves, one of the Spanish guests attending the party Senor Raphael Rifle saw his chance and stole the noise maker, still known as Olde Number Nine. Raphael thought by increasing the sausage expulsion propellant even more and sticking one of his kids marbles in place of the cork, he would have a new parlor game called “what the hell was that”. Raphael first tried this game on his wife and the fragile marble shattered in a million pieces of glitter covering her face. Needless to say when she went into town she was such a hit and never returned home. Raphael was not discouraged and took the lead ball off the end of the baby’s pacifier. It was a bit small to fit snugly down the barrel and would just roll out to the ground, so Raphael cut a corner off the baby’s diaper, wrapped it around the lead ball and jammed it down the barrel. Walla!! It looked too good to be true but during all the preparations Raphael forgot how much sausage expulsion propellant he had dropped down the barrel. When he fired this bad boy off, parts of the interior walls were missing. Frank Locke continued to perfect this device and we all know there is only so many corners on a diaper before you get to the ‘mother load of a diaper that only a mother could love’ As stated before, Mrs. Locke left and was touring local towns and cities billed as ‘The Glitter lady’.
Frank used all the diaper and this is first historical use of the term ‘shoot the Cranberries’ and is no way connected to sailors talking while at sea. The rest is history as this is how the “Flint Lock Rifle” was finally developed.
NUMBER NINE: Now that we have the history, we all know this rifle could project a lead ball 75 to 100 yards and kill or wound another person, by not very accurate. A patched lead ball is nothing to scoff at but what makes this rifle so deadly and needs to be banned today was the advent of the Minnie ball. This was a bullet design invented by one of the first women weapon gunsmiths, Minnie Ball. It changed the shape of the bullet from a round ball to a conical projectile with a hollow base and fit perfectly down the barrel and did not need a corner of a baby diaper. And unknown to Ms. Ball at the time, the reason this Minnie ball worked and was deadly accurate was due to a spin or rotation put on the bullet when fired. When Raphael Rifle was doing his testing for his parlor party popper guessing game, he scratched up the interior of the barrel extensively leaving deep groves know today as, rifling. The Minnie ball was used during the civil war and caused many a death and horrible wounds. When President Lincoln first became aware of the use of the Minnie ball all he could respond with was, “come on man” We all know how that ended. For these reasons you must contact anyone in power and get rid of this flint lock rifle before we have to endure another 300 years of this implement of mass destruction.

[Lone Spur Jake SASS #7728]

I believe it was around 1990 when I was living in San Diego that California mandated that certain semi auto rifles (assault rifles) had to be registered.  After about 2 years they said they believed about only 1 or 2% had been registered and were pleading with citizens and giving them another year or two to register their rifles.   They never did go door to door looking for the rest.  But, San Francisco later banned I believe SKS rifles and a judge said we know where the  folks in the Bay area are who registered their SKS rifles and if they didn't turn them in by a certain date they would be arrested.

Gun registration works.

[Dubious Don #56333]

Four million guns in America. LOL, That's funny. NICS checks for just the last three years topped 2, sometimes three million a month. Every month. Before that? LOL. Even if they banned everything for everyone except gubbermint, of course, criminals would still have them. Mexico and NYC come to mind. In 1990-something Australia banned all? semi-autos. They now have MORE guns per capita than they did before the "buyback". Every state, city that enacted "gun control" never saw a decrease in crime. There are a number of valid studies that conclusively show that for the last thirty years the percentage of gun ownership has gone up, one is 56 percent for 1994-2004 while the gun homicide rate for that same period went DOWN 49%.

There is no correlation between gun laws and crime. Gun control doesn't work.

 

Every talking point the left has on this issue is FAKE. Liars. They scream louder thinking that loudness equates something. Far as I'm concerned, well, never you mind. I will say this; the way they are pushing this issue and also trying to limit people First Amendment rights should tell you everything you need to know about their intentions.

[Dustin Checotah]

On 3/29/2023 at 9:59 PM, Fallon Kid said:

I know they don’t have a clue. I remember last year some nut job shot up a place and when they checked his house, they claimed it a literal armory. He had 7 guns in his house. Can you imagine someone having that many guns? LOL

We had a supervisor at work that wound up getting fired and a few years later he was busted for dealing cocaine. In the newspaper they said that he was found with the drugs and 4 (four) guns. One lady in the breakroom mentioned that he had a lot of guns. I looked at her and said he had 4 I have 77. Her jaw dropped. As a disclaimer I don't have the guns anymore as they were lost in a boating "accident".

[Marshal Dan Troop 70448]

This maybe of interest. Listen to the lady and what she has to say in just the first few minutes.

 

[Rye Miles #13621]

If I used my so called "Assault Rifle" to defend myself would it not be then considered a "Defense Rifle"?

 

[Buckshot Bob]

7 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

If I used my so called "Assault Rifle" to defend myself would it not be then considered a "Defense Rifle"?

 

The msm and their masters say you are not allowed to think that way. Guns can only be good if they are in the hands of the state and being used against the people they don’t like. 

[Ozark Huckleberry]

On 3/30/2023 at 8:43 AM, Rye Miles #13621 said:

Who's gonna confiscate the guns? Our friends and relatives who are military and law enforcement? It'll never happen anyway this is just talking points for votes from the anti-gun crowd! 

It wouldn’t be ‘friends and relatives’.  It would be some sort of enforcement brought in from a different part of the U.S.  — the same approach the Soviets took to keeping satellite countries in line. 

 

I doubt the bulk of disarmament would be through coercion, anyway. More likely through forcing a ‘rational’ choice through financial means that didn’t directly infringe on gun ownership, e.g., ridiculously expensive health insurance riders for gun owners to offset costs of gun violence, that sort of thing. 

[Buckshot Bob]

1 hour ago, Ozark Huckleberry said:

It wouldn’t be ‘friends and relatives’.  It would be some sort of enforcement brought in from a different part of the U.S.  — the same approach the Soviets took to keeping satellite countries in line. 

 

I doubt the bulk of disarmament would be through coercion, anyway. More likely through forcing a ‘rational’ choice through financial means that didn’t directly infringe on gun ownership, e.g., ridiculously expensive health insurance riders for gun owners to offset costs of gun violence, that sort of thing. 

I’ve often thought that they would take the same approach as the Canadian government did with the truckers , just freeze your assets and don’t let you make a living until you comply. I believe that and tax collection are the two biggest reasons the government wants a cashless system with no cryptocurrency. Although they sure found a way to exploit crypto for campaign finance purposes, even though it was the biggest scam ever you sure don’t hear much about that anymore. But they find a way to exploit any system

And they could always bring in UN troops who would have no problem killing US citizens. But I think that would be a last resort, they don’t want to destroy any infrastructure and they want everyone making/consuming widgets and paying taxes. And how the blank is the crypto kid out on bail? Definitely a two tier justice system 

[Marshal Dan Troop 70448]

3 hours ago, Ozark Huckleberry said:

It wouldn’t be ‘friends and relatives’.  It would be some sort of enforcement brought in from a different part of the U.S.  — the same approach the Soviets took to keeping satellite countries in line. 

 

I doubt the bulk of disarmament would be through coercion, anyway. More likely through forcing a ‘rational’ choice through financial means that didn’t directly infringe on gun ownership, e.g., ridiculously expensive health insurance riders for gun owners to offset costs of gun violence, that sort of thing. 

Red Flag Law is one were friends and family can disarm you.

[Blackwater 53393]

3 minutes ago, Marshal Dan Troop 70448 said:

Red Flag Law is one were friends and family can disarm you.

If they try to disarm me, they are neither friends nor family!

[Buckshot Bob]

1 hour ago, Marshal Dan Troop 70448 said:

Red Flag Law is one were friends and family can disarm you.

Not just family and friends, any one you come in contact with that has a beef with you. Neighbor, co worker, etc…. 

[J.D. Daily]

I would think that federal government called for door to door confiscation and the military followed orders the "fragging" would begin.

[Marshal Dan Troop 70448]

45 minutes ago, J.D. Daily said:

I would think that federal government called for door to door confiscation and the military followed orders the "fragging" would begin.

There are still many in Law Enforcement that are against confiscation and believe in the 2nd Amendment. Same for military personal. It will be the political motivated individuals that will do the dirty work.

 

[The Shoer 27979]

Since I have been retired I have seen and watched alot of videos some of them include, house and senate  commites. There really are some ( republican) seriously  trying to keep our second ammendment free. I have seen testimony proving gun laws do not work and the left basically  they do not care

[watab kid]

On 3/29/2023 at 8:59 PM, Fallon Kid said:

I know they don’t have a clue. I remember last year some nut job shot up a place and when they checked his house, they claimed it a literal armory. He had 7 guns in his house. Can you imagine someone having that many guns? LOL

all those guns in a single home ? lord help us , i bet not one of the more than 7 guns in any household any of us know ever committed a crime - people might have but the guns didnt , none of mine ever have nor did any of mine kill anyone at all - neither have i with any of them , 

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

On 3/30/2023 at 6:49 AM, J-BAR #18287 said:

 

True.  But any school system that operates without adequate internal and external security is criminally negligent.  Parents who send their children to schools that don't have adequate security are stupid.

And the money for this comes from where?

 

We have the technology, the laws, and everything else in place already.  We just don't have the intelligence and the guts to use it and to remove the people who are preventing it from bring used.

[J-BAR #18287]

1 hour ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

And the money for this comes from where?

 

 

The growth of public school administrative staff has been noted before.  A good illustration:

 

https://www.educationnext.org/growth-administrative-staff-assistant-principals-far-outpaces-teacher-hiring/
 

 

As you note, it will take superintendents and parents with information and courage to use it to make $/student more efficient.  Where does the money come from?  Get the priorities right.  No need to raise taxes.