Chief Rick Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 If your club is allowing .22LR across the board for competition are the scenarios being written to end with the shotgun more often? If you're ending with the pistols, are you having trouble recording the last shot on .22LR revolvers? If you're not having problems recording the last shot with .22LR revolvers are you considering more scenarios ending with the rifle? I haven't seen any complaints of timers not picking up shots on the Wire. I figured there's be threads for days if people were having problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Howdy Chief. Good topic. I can't answer your exact questions but I can share that whenever I use 'Primer Only' rounds in my .38's in speed practice with my timer, I was able to pick up all the 'POP's of the primers going off in the pistols. I had the timer placed on a table top within 3 feet (closer to 2 ft.) and everything registered. I would think a quality timer could pick up a .22 pistol being fired cause they have a reasonable loud report. Have a great day. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 I shot a match last weekend using two Ruger Wranglers, a Browning BL22 and feeding them Remington Golden Bullets from a Bucket of Bullets. I had several people comment that they were not difficult to hear impacts and no timer issues. nothing was changed in the match to accommodate the .22s. It seemed to be a non-issue. Imis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 I would never end a .22 match with a rifle. In some rifles, the sound of the firing pin can drown out the report of the cartridge on some loadings, such as CB Longs. I have a small frame Colt Lighting in .22 Long made in 1899, and it will never get anything but CBs fired through it. Pistols still have a pretty good report, even with the low power loads, but to be honest, I would ALWAYS end a .22 match with the shotgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickel City Dude Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 We had an indoor match a few weeks ago and the timer would not always pick up the 22 rifle report but always picked up the 22 pistol reports. We were not allowed to use shotguns or anything larger than a 22 rifle in the indoor range. Leaving the pistol last worked fine even if the person was using a 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 We've had several Buckaroos using .22's with no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Spade Mikey Wilson Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 We have allowed .22's at our matches over the last 2 years. No change in stage design for 22's, and no issues. Timer picks up shotgun and 22 pistols with no issues, rifle can be a challenge so we do not end a stage with a rifle. Our spotters have no problems seeing hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Cross, SASS #13848 L Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Had a 22 match yesterday: 22 pistols and rifle and a centerfire match pistol - no shotgun as we didn't feel like picking up anything. No stages ended with rifle, but while timing, I paid close attention while rifle was shot and had no problem picking up shots. We also had no problem hearing hits on targets, but we also paid closer attention. And, we've had no problems when buckaroos shoot. So, we are filing this as a non-issue and will continue to use more 22 this season in our ammo and reloading components shortage accommodation effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisco Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 A good number of .22 rifles and pistols are used in our monthly matches all winter and the only time I recall any trouble was a stage finished with rifle shot with sub-sonic ammo. Even then, had the TO noticed, they could have been picked up with the timer pushed forward some. We use the same timers for speed steel/steel challenge matches that are mostly shot with .22s, and the only issues I recall are with suppressed 9mm carbines; I've had to hold the timer right next to the bolt because it couldn't pick up anything from the muzzle. We also have the sensitivity ctanked up to the max on the timers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 We've never had a problem with .22's but Whiskey never writes a stage to end with a rifle. I've seen some .32 rifles that the timers wouldn't consistently pick up the shots. Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvil Al #59168 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 None of the clubs around here ever have stages ending with rifle. And is ending with pistols. As long as the TO is in the correct spot. It's not a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cayuse Jack, SASS #19407 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Turn up the sensitivity level of the timer. At the 22 steel action shoots I have been too, that’s what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickel City Dude Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Cayuse Jack, SASS #19407 said: Turn up the sensitivity level of the timer. At the 22 steel action shoots I have been too, that’s what they do. How do you turn up the sensitivity of the timer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 said: We've never had a problem with .22's but Whiskey never writes a stage to end with a rifle. I've seen some .32 rifles that the timers wouldn't consistently pick up the shots. Randy .38 rifles and believe it or not a few .45's too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisco Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 The Competition Electronics Pocket Pro timers (blue) have a small slotted screw set into a hole along one side; crank it all the way clockwise for maximum sensitivity. I've dealt with some other types (can't recall which) that could be adjusted but you had to find it in a menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cayuse Jack, SASS #19407 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Adjusting timer sensitivity: What Crisco said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickel City Dude Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Crisco said: The Competition Electronics Pocket Pro timers (blue) have a small slotted screw set into a hole along one side; crank it all the way clockwise for maximum sensitivity. I've dealt with some other types (can't recall which) that could be adjusted but you had to find it in a menu. I have the Pocket Pro II and I can't find any hole except the microphone hole. I looked in the battery compartment also and no screw. I finally tried the menu and found where it will let me change the sensitivity in the menu options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Rick Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 7 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: .38 rifles and believe it or not a few .45's too! If a shot timer is having problem picking up .38s and some .45s, I'd think a new shot timer (or TO) are in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullett Sass 19707 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 My daughters shot for years using .22s and the only change in a stage was with reloads on the rifle. We have never had problems with the timers or misses called. With all rifles the problem comes in when the muzzle is through a prop {window}. With all shooters the spotters must pay attention. I have been shooting .22 for the winter and find it fun, I have always enjoyed a .22 Thanks Bullett 19707 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 I was graciously allowed to shoot 22LR at the last Irregulars match. A pair of Single Six Bisley, and Henry Frontier. I very much appreciated this, as I'm very flush in 22LR, and quite hesitant about spending down my center fire stock without being able to replenish it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 8:21 AM, High Spade Mikey Wilson said: We have allowed .22's at our matches over the last 2 years. No change in stage design for 22's, and no issues. Timer picks up shotgun and 22 pistols with no issues, rifle can be a challenge so we do not end a stage with a rifle. Our spotters have no problems seeing hits. I like the 'seeing hits' when speaking on spotting. We are spotters, not listeners. But better is 'seeing a miss'. Gotta SEE a miss and know it...otherwise it is a hit. I think it is always a good practice to NEVER end with rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Rick Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Singin' Sue 71615 said: I think it is always a good practice to NEVER end with rifle. I'm going to politely agree to disagree. I think it would be much better to ALWAYS have spotters that took the role seriously. I understand that things can happen, but I think people don't want to end with a rifle (regardless of cartridge) is because it's easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lassy LaRock Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 We have been shooting falling plates with .22 rifle and pistol in Germany for more than 10 years. No problem with timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Lassy LaRock said: We have been shooting falling plates with .22 rifle and pistol in Germany for more than 10 years. No problem with timer. Welcome to the place or wilkommen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Spade Mikey Wilson Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 19 hours ago, Singin' Sue 71615 said: I like the 'seeing hits' when speaking on spotting. We are spotters, not listeners. But better is 'seeing a miss'. Gotta SEE a miss and know it...otherwise it is a hit. I agree. Many shooters/spotters are older folks like me. I wear hearing aids in both ears when not shooting. When shooting I wear ear plugs. I don't have the luxury of hearing lead hitting steel each shot. I know the stage sequence and follow the shooters shots looking for the hits/misses. That is the choice I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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