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Assassin, I strongly disagree with this. In fact, I go the other way. I think we need more of it. Standing there with your hands on your pistols saying, "Shooter ready." just doesn't get the blood pumping like staring down your target and snarling, "Draw, you son of a bitch!". Seriously, if we're going to do away with start lines, we might as well do away with western themed props and western themed clothing and western themed guns. Like I've already asked, what makes this cowboy action shooting? What got YOU excited about it from the very first time you saw it? Possum, the metal marsupial

Not a cartoon but appropriate none the less. A bit Aussie centric at the beginning but I am sure you will get the jist

Don’t worry Cyrus. That pair of coaches will probably give you more opportunities to eject them!

Skinner!! You’re right!! Some of the stories are entertaining. Others are educational. The starting lines are one of those things that make this game unique and hearing the ad libs and such help to relax some of the tension!! After all, IT’S A GAME!!! Using an activity like attempting to lasso a cow or dropping a stick of dynamite in a well for a starting line is just as good and embodies “cowboy action” , something a cowboy would do. A LOT of our members ENJOY these things!! If you don’t enjoy the stories, walk off while they’re being read or told. If you don’t want to say a starting line or you’re not creative enough to make up your own, just go on and say, “shooter ready”!! Nobody’s holding a gun to your head. REMEMBER!! It’s a game!! NOW!! You can change any of this! I doubt that many of us will quit if you do. But I suspect that many will miss the atmosphere and playful interaction. As to changing someone’s range or moving somewhere else to accommodate someone else’s idea of what a match should be, I’ll just say that I am happy just to have some place to go and shoot and hang out with folks who feel the same way!! Remember!! IJAFG!!

Yesterday, I went to the CA DMV to renew my DL, which expired in April. I did have an extension until 8/11/2020; but need to have an office visit because I'm "older than dirt." I didn't have an appointment (they are not making appointments or accepting calls at this time). No problem. I wanted to get a "Real ID." There was a problem with that. I did get my DL renewed (no test). The problem with the Real Id was that I didn't have a valid Marriage Certificate. Mine was from 1971 and stated "Temporary." It was good enough in 1971 to get a new SS card; but is not good enough now to get a Real ID. From working on a software application from CA to SSA, I understand that More later, when it is a weekday and I can contact the Nevada state department responsible for verification. BTW we got married at the courthouse.

Mrs. McLintock got her new rig, hope to find her a sxs that fits so she can give it a go next month! I think she even likes it.

Dove creek had a mini parade and a good fireworks show on the 4th. Still no Covid cases in the county.

Don't remember if this picture has been posted before, but what the heck.

We have a seven-page white paper on BLL entitled "Controlling Blood Lead Levels" (for shooters) available for a free download under "Documents/Papers" on our website at: www.PRVCatLazyArrow.com. (This document is now being used by several law enforcement agencies.) As GJ pointed out, the greatest exposure to lead particulate is when shooting, and especially with revolvers where there is a rather large cloud of lead particulate around a pistol when fired. TOs are especially prone to inhaling excessive amounts of lead particulate because of their proximity to numerous shooters. The body has several types of skin; the skin on your palm and inner facings of your fingers is referred to as "glabrous" skin and has very few open pores and no hair follicles, so absorption through the skin when reloading is minimal. The danger with lead on your hands comes when you are reloading or shooting and you pull something to eat out of its wrapper and transfer lead particulate directly to the food you are eating. Carelessly opening a bottle of water and rubbing lead around the mouth of the bottle before putting it to your lips is another dangerous practice. Smoking while at the range is another way to transfer lead from your fingers to he tip of your cigarette and then to your mouth. Inhalation and ingestion are two prominent methods of lead introduction to the body. Absorption through the skin is virtually zero. As previously noted, spirulina (especially the Hawaiian version) is not only a great herb, but is a super chelation (metal removal) agent and is far more enjoyable and easier on your body than any of the scripted drugs for lead removal. My wife and I both take a teaspoon of spirulina a day in our protein drink. Five years ago, my BLL (blood lead level) was 18.5mg/dl (18.5 milligrams per deciliter), it is now 7.5mg/dl and I have not changed my shooting or gun handling practices. Cilantro and chlorella are two other natural chelation agents (but spirulina is more effective.) I know of at least a dozen folks in our four sister clubs who have taken spirulina and successfully reduced their BLL. As noted previously, most doctors and hematologists aim for a BLL of less than 5mg/dl. Greater than 10mg/dl and the lab must report it to the Board of Health (so you'll most likely get a letter and some pamphlet's in the mail). What's too high? As you have already read, there is a wide disparity of opinions, but most professionals feel that anything over 10-12mg/dl is not good. What does it cause? My life-long friend is a neurologist and he says there's an array of neurological issues that include things like memory loss, tingling in the fingers, muscle pains, joint pains, twitches, etc., and in each case folks with these symptoms often are found to have high BLL levels. Donating blood? Check with your agency before donating blood. If you - and they - know you have elevated BLL, they may not accept you as a plasma donor. (Lots of studies on this - Google it if you're interested.) How to reduce BLL? Masks and bandanas will help (and I think the coronavirus mandates will help to reduce BLL in cowboy shooters - if the virus doesn't come and get us first!!!!). Washing your hands thoroughly, and using D-Lead soap where available, is a very important thing to do when finished shooting - especially before you eat. Not touching bottle tips, and holding food by the wrapper rather than touching the food is very important. Washing your cowboy clothes regularly - especially your shirt - is very important to not introducing lead particulate to your house and other clothes. Be healthy please.... RR

I'll tell you what. You guys ask for the changes you want. If you get them and I can live with them, fine. If I don't like them and quit, but you gain two, good for you.

Wait! Why would they be the “Washington” anything’s? Didn’t George Washington own slaves? Can’t call it “Washington”...perhaps District of Columbia... The team can be named after the District of Columbia. Now we need and identifier... How about District Of Columbia Kickers...you know, kick as in “punt”... But wait...District “Of” just doesn’t sound right. How about “In” as in “inclusive”! Yeah, that’ll work! District In Columbia Kickers! Nice! They could be called DICKs for short...

I found this on FB this morning. It fits:

I don't want to part with any of my guns, from Dad's rifle and shotgun to my new Uberti 1860 barbecue guns (not quite finished yet, but getting closer).

I have much to say on the subject. But not here. And don’t assume that my opinion is negative...or positive. You know what they say about assuming. Carry on. I’ll be in the area.

Washington Foreskins Kajun

My alias came from a nickname someone started when I was still in high school, Forty Rod Kid. I don't remember why and just recently had the guy's name pop into my head after 61 years: Jim Morrey. As to a character I see myself as a man of many backgrounds (which is true) but have settled in as a trader, traveling the Rockies from the north end of Cache Valley (Utah and Idaho) all the way down to where I am now in Lonesome Valley / Jackass Flats, AT. I go where the rails don't and where only a few stages travel, where someone needs something that I can get for them. I have a couple of freight wagons and a dozen mules, three saddle horses, and I hire one or two helpers as the situation calls for. I have customers from manufacturers and merchants to rancher's wives, cowboys, soldiers, and a dozen or so tribes of Indians. I do a lot of trading for goods and get some gold or cash along the way as well. My clothes are a mixed kit of trade goods. I have a derby that was too big for anyone else, added a beaded hat band for a Navajo woman in Saint George, got a buckskin coat from a Bannock lady, store bought britches and boots, a few home-grown shirts, and so on. It's a motley blend and suits me to a T. I'm in the process of selling out my entire outfit (except for my clothes, guns, personal "house wares", and thousands of memories. At nearly eighty years of age I'm about used up and want to settle down. Bought a house in Lonesome Valley and have a number of friends there that I met in my travels. Stop by if you're ever this way. The pot's always on, there's usually something to eat (if not, that's easily corrected), and we can just sit around, whittle and spit, and tell tales.

Incompatible with military service. Translation: He gets butt hurt and whines too much. The USMC is an equal opportunity offender. They don't care about your feelings.

No. The creation of the character is from me playing cowboy in my grandparents garage. There was a saddle that sat on a sawhorse in the corner. I imagine the posse is still looking for me. Been on the dodge for some 35 years now.

It's more of a matter of when and finances. I just discovered this sport not that many months back, and while I'm slowly acquiring the firearms necessary (still have a lever gun and a shot gun to go), I'm only working part-time while I'm going back to school to finish my degree. I'll be coming into some more money in a month or so to finish my purchases and get my SASS membership.

How it’s really done...

Hey Alpo, last week you asked about electric hedge trimmers from the 40’s or 50’s. Somebody mentioned drill powered hedge trimmers. I was digging thru my storage and ran across one I found in my great aunt’s garage after she passed. All original box, instructions and mail in warranty card is still in the box too, but I didn’t see a date on anything. But, it still works, the blades move smooth when the shaft is rotated. My great uncle knew how to take care of his tools. Here are some pics. Kind of a cool old tool!

Well said, Blackwater! Conspiracy or not, we should ALL ask as you do of our so called "leaders".

Since the NFL already has "safe" names like Bears, Lions, Jaguars, Broncos, Seahawks, etc. - perhaps the "DC SWAMP RATS" might be appropriate...Surely someone in the Saloon could come up with an appropriate helmet logo! CS

Well, Perro, one of mine is a terrorist.

More than you ever wanted to know about it here. To Cap It All Off… A Fond Look at a Navy Trademark: Uses (and Abuses) of the "Dixie Cup" It can be squared, rolled, crushed, fitted with "gull wings" or simply worn as it comes from small stores. It can be used as a flotation device or a sun shield or even, some claim, as a dog food dish. With its many shapes and uses, it may be the most versatile article of clothing a Navy enlisted man wears. According to Naval Historian John Reilly, "The 'dixie cup'-style hat has appeared and reappeared in the Navy as part of the uniform since it was first written into the uniform regulations of 1886." That year, the white canvas hat became the replacement for the straw hat previously worn during the warm weather months. The Navy needed a practical summer hat that was easy to clean and stow, cheap to manufacture and comfortable to wear. During the winter, sailors continued to wear a flat, black hat. Current Navy uniform regulations say the hat must be worn "with the lower front edge approximately one-half inch above the eyebrows and not crushed or bent in the middle." That leaves a lot of possibilities. By reshaping the white hat or "dixie cup" to suit their personal style, enlisted sailors have been able, for more than 100 years, to express some measure of individuality in a uniform world. Uniform regulations may technically forbid such stylistic reshaping, but few sailors can resist. "When I first put the white hat on, it felt like a bowl sitting on top of my head," said Data Processor 1st Class Eddie Hawes of Navy Headquarters Information Center, Washington, D.C. "I thought, 'There must be something I could do to change it.' The way I put crimps in it made it different from anyone else's." The tradition of personalizing the white hat hasn't changed much in more than 25 years, according to Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy, Avionics Technician Master Chief (AW) Duane R. Bushey. "The white hat is like putty - you can mold different characters out of it," he said. "I wanted my hat to be completely round. I wanted it to droop a bit, so I'd roll it down halfway to loosen it up." Master Chief Hospital Corpsman Jerry Robinson, Command Master Chief at Bethesda Naval Medical Center, recalled how he wore his white hat. "I rolled the top quarter edge. It would flare out and have a flat edge to it. It took a lot of time and care to keep it that way." Most sailors usually find it hard work to get their white hats just exactly the way they like them. "Although I have six hats, I only wear the one I've been working on," said Yeoman 2nd Class Jerry Bradley, a Vice Chief of Naval Operations staff yeoman in Washington, D.C. "It's softened up and fits better," he said. "I get attached to one hat at a time." There may be many different ways to wear a white hat, but there are just as many different nicknames - "squid lid," "dog dish" and "Mason jar top" - these and many other terms have been handed down over the decades. Aviation Electronics Technician Airman Apprentice Doug Paige of Naval Air Station Oceana, Va., remembers why his white hat was called a "dog dish." "When I was in 'A' school, every time I went to the EM [Enlisted Men's] club I had to watch out for Marines. They would steal any sailor's hat - said they used it as a dish to feed their mascot," said Paige. "I had to buy nine hats while I was there!" But despite the unflattering nicknames and occasional abuse, the white hat has gained high status over the generations - it has become a symbol of the Navy. The dixie cup is so recognizable that Hollywood uses it as a prop in movie scenes shot in train stations, bus stations and airports. "The Navy's white hat is much more easily identified than other military uniforms," said CAPT Michael Sherman, Director of Navy Office of Information, Los Angeles, noting that sailors are synonymous with travel and white hats are synonymous with sailors. "People expect to see them in areas of transit," he said. The dixie cup has been so reliable that it was phased out only once this century. July 1, 1973, marked the beginning in of some major Navy uniform changes. The results of a Navy-wide study, begun in December 1970, indicated that most sailors wanted a change in their uniforms. The white hat was given up for lost when it was replaced by a CPO [Chief Petty Officer] type hat known as a "combination cover." But the combination hat was never completely accepted by personnel E-6 and below. Yeoman 1st Class Pete Martinez, currently assigned to the Assistant Secretary for Organizational Matters and Administrative Services, Washington, D.C., remembers when he joined the Navy in 1975 and the mixed feelings he had about not wearing the white hat. "I had always pictured the typical sailor looking like the poster than had the old 'salty' sailor on it. The white hat looked sharp," said Martinez. "I didn't like it when I was issued the combo cover." The MCPON [Master Chief Petty officer of the Navy] remembers that ambiguity. "Most sailors wanted a uniform change," added Bushey, "and I felt that way too, but I also felt awkward wearing the combination cover as an E-6. The novelty of it wore off in two or three months - I missed my white hat." Everybody missed it. According to Robinson, "The public probably had a harder time accepting the change than the sailors. They were used to seeing the sailor on a 'Cracker Jack' box." There was another problem. Ships weren't prepared to provide enough storage space for the combination covers. "The only extra space the Navy added for the new uniforms were a few peacoat lockers they installed on board ships," said Robinson. "One of the 'gifts' sailors E-6 and below had was the extra space they had when they were wearing white hats and 'cracker jack' uniforms. I could probably store half a dozen or so white hats to every one combination cover." Bushey agreed, "It's much harder to store a combination cover than it is to store the white hat. The combination cover gets crunched or flattened out," he said, "but the white hat never loses its shape." There are public relations advantages to the dixie cups, too. "After the white hats were phased back in," recalled Bushey, who was a chief at the time, "I was standing in the San Francisco airport, in uniform. A civilian approached me and said, 'I just want to tell you how sharp the sailors look today.' He had watched the transition from the white hats to the combination covers and back again and was glad to see a sailor 'look like a sailor, again.'" Everyone agrees that white hats look sharp; the question - today, as it has been for decades - is how to keep them that way. Keeping the white hat white is important to sailors. The tricks sailors use to clean their dixie cups are as individual and varied as the shape of the hat. "If my hats get minor stains," said Bradley, "I soak them in bleach and run a toothbrush over the spots. You're supposed to brush with the grain so the hat doesn't fray. Then I throw them in the washing machine with my whites and put them in the dryer." It wasn't always that easy to clean the white hat. Sailors in boot camp in the '60s learned a different technique to keep their dixie cups in "sat" condition for inspection. Bushey recalled, "I went to boot camp in San Diego in 1962. We would really scrub hard with a scrub brush, a toothbrush and Wisk to get the ring out of the inside. Then, we would attach a 'tie-tie' to the tag. Once attached, we would dip the hats in the toilet and flush." (A tie-tie is a piece of cord with metal tabs on each end that the Navy issued to sailors to hang their laundry). But if cleaning efforts required by the white hats are high, at least replacement costs are low. If a captain's hat and a sailor's white hat are both blown overboard, the captain has to pay over $40 to replace his hat, while the sailor is back in business for $2.60. Approximately 140,000 white hats are made each month for the Defense Personnel Support Center. The hats are then stored in defense depots in Mechanicsburg, Pa.; Memphis, Tenn.; Ogden, Utah and Tracy, Calif. The hats remain in the depots until DPSC [Defense Personnel Support Center] distributes them to uniform shops throughout the Navy. It may surprise some to learn that such an American symbol as the Navy white hat isn't made in the United States. Mayaguez, Puerto Rico, is the home of Propper International, Inc., the company that has been making white hats for the DPSC for the last 10 years. Seventy-five rows of stitching keep the brim of the dixie cup stiff. The brims are made on an automatic brim stitcher and the crown is put together on a sewing machine. When the two parts are completed they are stitched together using the sewing machine. The three-part operation takes about seven and a half minutes. Something assembled so quickly nonetheless has proven to be very durable in popularity. The white hat has remained a popular item with the civilian public. "I constantly get requests for white hats because they are unique to the U.S. Navy," said Bradley. "Some people even steal them out of my car." "Traditionally, the white hat means a lot," said Bushey. "When the ship left the pier, we used to roll our hats and throw them to our girlfriends or wives. It was our way of leaving a part of ourselves behind." Whether squared, rolled or worn with a stiff brim, the white hat gives American sailors their special individuality worldwide. "To me," Bradley said, "the white hat is a symbol of the Navy and it's always going to be." Source: Hensgen, Marke A. "To Cap It All Off …A Fond Look at a Navy Trademark: Uses (and Abuses) of the 'Dixie Cup.'" All Hands 860 (November 1988): 33-35.

Since it is DC how about the Washington Sell-outs? Imis

Untouchables: No prizes. SASS is an environment where there in zero motivation to be cut-throat and not help newbies. We need to keep it that way. Costume categories. Some say clothing requirements drive folks away. Newbies I have spoken with are attracted by them. Where else can a guy go and not be ridiculed for dressing in chaps and bib-front shirts? I have heard women say their main reason of attending a shoot is so they can show off in their cowgirl/saloon girl/steampunk clothing. Pre-1899 style/type firearms. Starting lines. Yes, I actually enjoy them. Many times they make me laugh out loud. Doughslinger at Pine Ridge Regulators excelled at making me laugh... even when I was saying a line from Mary Poppins! (That's a pie crust promise; easily made and easily broken.)

Finally the weekend

The S&W Victory works well, but the Ruger MK IV 22/45 is the show stopper in the 22 LR full size pistol field. The Performance Center guns start at nearly $600, and go up from there.

While I'm out shooting and reloading, you fellers are talking about boots and boats......... And that 'Krazy Coonass' is worrying about paddle wheels and tug boats..... Ya better be careful about letting TN Williams (one of those Williams boys) getting your minds off Cowboy shooting. Thats his secret to beating up on unsuspected victims..... ..........Widder

Not really. Most of his points made about as much sense as the one he tried to make about TB. There's a shot and an easy test for TB, why would it be declared a pandemic? If you think more should be done about it, did you also oppose withdrawing support for WHO? This guy is like every other conspiracy theorist, he ignores an awful lot of facts and counts on you to do the same.

Congressional Weenies After Congressman Anthony Wiener C-Weenies for short

The only sacred cows to me are to retain the minimum dress standards, pre 1899 firearms, and a mandatory UTO. Everything else can be looked at to make it more efficient or more fun, that includes Frontiersman. Now don't hate me because I shoot Frontiersman Gunfighter . Another example, the 170° rule works great for long guns BUT not so much for short guns. This is a case where the "Cone of safety", might be more realistic for drawing and holstering handguns from straight hang or crossdraws. Does the rule need to change? No. Could it be looked at? Most definitely yes.

Yeah, you’d have to use a lot of lube on that phone!

Correct. A veteran has served for FOUR YEARS with no combat *or* one tour in combat.

He IS NOT a Veteran!

Medical discharge......mental disorder???

I think anything ought to be up for discussion. But minute changes in one category isn't the answer. Let's brainstorm in broad strokes. What is going to bring in more people in our target demographic. Folks in their 30's and 40's who now have the disposable income to play the game, whatever that game is. Will changing the firearms bring more people in? I doubt it. My "untouchable" would be the guns of the game. Clothing? A long-sleeve shirt and long pants? Non-athletic shoes? That's too hard? No. An "untouchable" for me would be the clothing minimum. No one is forcing anybody into the "costume categories". This is a thread about what our "untouchables" are, but when we express them, others jump in and criticize posters because we have "untouchables"... make up you mind!

Yes, absolutely. Change your name to Lady Bic. The women will love and hate you, They will use you and throw you away.