Alpo Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 The Navy mostly has ships. PT boats are boats. Submarines are boats. Are landing craft boats? I think they are but don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Nothing that I found really said except… Quote Dutch and American LCUs in Curacao, June 2006. A Landing Craft Utility (LCU) is a type of boat used by amphibious forces to transport equipment and troops to the shore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Any craft that can be transported on or in a ship is a boat. Landing craft were deployed from a ship, so yes. Sometimes we used to p!ss off the Old Chiefs by referring the ship we were on as a boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 2 hours ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: Any craft that can be transported on or in a ship is a boat. Landing craft were deployed from a ship, so yes. Sometimes we used to p!ss off the Old Chiefs by referring the ship we were on as a boat. What he said ^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jack Black Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 5 hours ago, Alpo said: The Navy mostly has ships. PT boats are boats. Submarines are boats. Are landing craft boats? I think they are but don't know. YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Falcon, SASS # 46139 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Carrier qualification is called "hitting the boat". PF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Kit Cool Gun Garth Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 https://www.dictionary.com/e/boat-vs-ship/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 OK , a boat can fit in a ship , ill buy that , but still begs the question in the end , im an inland water guy and i use boat but i know im wrong in some cases by the words of my deceased FIL who was a submariner and knew his boats and ships larger than my boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozark Huckleberry Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 4 hours ago, watab kid said: OK , a boat can fit in a ship , ill buy that , but still begs the question in the end , im an inland water guy and i use boat but i know im wrong in some cases by the words of my deceased FIL who was a submariner and knew his boats and ships larger than my boat Originally submarines were smaller, conducted shallow-water/littoral ops, and were only manned when underway (e.g., Bushnell's Turtle, CSS Hunley, et al.)-- hence, they were called boats. Even after submarines became deep-water, permanently manned ships, the term 'boats' stuck. ETA: The U.S. Navy. Sometimes it's centuries of tradition unimpaired by progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jack Black Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Subs were also transported on ships when they were very small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Dan Troop 70448 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Kind of funny this post reminds me of a time when we traded in our 36ft Bayliner in for a 48ft Carver. In initial encounter with the salesman we told him we were interested in a boat that would handle our interest in island hoping, Bahama's, Jamaica, Bermuda, etc. He faced us both and said they don't sell boats, they sell Yatchs but would take our boat in for a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 The designated lanes during operations were called "boat lanes." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Kit Cool Gun Garth Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 The original WWII landing craft were Higgins Boats. The company also made PT Boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 "AWAY ALL BOATS. AWAY. AWAY"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okie Sawbones, SASS #77381 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Back in the old days, when Rye sailed with the Vikings, this was used. Technically speaking, a boat becomes classified as a ship when the LOA (Length Over All) is equal or greater than 60 meters (197 feet). An adage we always had was; “you can put a boat on a ship, but never a ship on a boat”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Joker Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 That's the law of gross tonnage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sloe Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 If I remember correctly, boats are less than 120 ft long and ships greater than 120. A second item is that ships roll outboard when making a turn. A boat leans to the inside. Those are from the cobwebs of my mind. Retired 30 years and counting. BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 14 hours ago, Ozark Huckleberry said: Originally submarines were smaller, conducted shallow-water/littoral ops, and were only manned when underway (e.g., Bushnell's Turtle, CSS Hunley, et al.)-- hence, they were called boats. Even after submarines became deep-water, permanently manned ships, the term 'boats' stuck. ETA: The U.S. Navy. Sometimes it's centuries of tradition unimpaired by progress. yes , my FIL explained some of that as well , he was a lifer , first crew of the nautilus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Subs, especially SSBN "Boomers" and current attack subs are ships. But, they are referred to by their crews as "boats". The senior petty officer on a sub is referred to as "Chief of the boat." I think even the WWII fleet subs were ships, but referred to by submariners as "the boat". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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