Reverend P. Babcock Chase Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Howdy Fellers, Since we all are still having to make do with powders that we can find, I was wondering if any of our cowpokes are using Hodgdon's Titewad for their 12 ga. loads? Specifically in Rem.STS or Win. AA hulls? If you're willing to get really finite, what MEC powder bushing are you using for 7/8th loads? Rev. Chase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhills Slim, SASS #22998 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 (edited) Low recoil Titewad loads. Winchester AA or STS hulls Winchester WAA12L or Claybuster 7/8 oz gray wad 7/8 oz of shot 14.2 gr of Hodgdon Titewad powder Use #20 Mec bushing #209 Shotshell primer of choice Edited April 5 by Sandhills Slim, SASS #22998 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall John Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 (edited) Hey Rev, HMmmm, “your mileage may vary” so weigh yer loads carefully. Note that TITEWad is really fine, so you may experience some “snowing” Here’s what I have in my log book and all pattered about the same out of my Stoeger at 30’ Win AA HS hull, Cheddite 209’s in claybuster CBO178-12 wads. mec Sizemaster press Hogdon TITEWad powder using new MEC branded bushings and bars purchased in the last year. #21 12.8gr #22 13.6gr #23 14.3-4gr #24 14.8gr #25 15.2gr weighed on an FA platinum series digital scale. for 7/8oz I like 14.3gr and For 1 1/8oz I load 15.2gr. Just ‘cause the recoil doesn’t bother me and I want to make sure everything goes down range. Edited April 5 by Tall John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Do you have any Unique? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend P. Babcock Chase Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 Howdy Fellas, That's real helpful. I think it gets me close to where I need to be. Hey OLG, don't have any Unique, In fact, all I have is American Select (for .45 Colt & .38), dwindling Clays (Shotshell) and 4198 (45/70 & 30/30 plus others. Never used Unique, but I know that it's popular. Rev. Chase 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie MacNeil, SASS #48580 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 I've been using Titewad ever since I discovered that it was a whole lot less expensive than the Clays and 700-x I was using for shotgun loads. I don't remember the bushing size, but I'm loading 13 grains of Titewad in AA hulls using Claybuster 7/8 ounce gray wads and whatever 209 primers I have on hand. Relatively light recoil in my hammer double and never fails to tip the knockdowns over unless I have a brain fart and forget what that shiny round thing on the end of the shotgun barrels is for... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Sackett Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 I ran out of Clays and found a 4 lb jug of Titewad. I load 12 ga AA or STS with about 14 gr, CB0175 wad and 3/4oz of shot. Works great and light recoil. Sorry, but I’m not close to the reloading bench and don’t have the exact formula, but as you can see I’m in the ballpark with the rest. Sam Sackett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 sure , that will be fine , there are a lot of shotgun powders and most of them will load your 45s and 38s too , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend P. Babcock Chase Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 Thanks Fellas, It's sounding like Titewad is what I'm looking for. That and a new MEC bushing or two. Rev. Chase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 I've used Titewad for years it's a good powder. Much cheaper than many other powders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 8 hours ago, Assassin said: I've used Titewad for years it's a good powder. Much cheaper than many other powders. Tite Group has gone through the roof! I was selling it 6 months ago for less than what it COSTS me now! Tite Wad is SIGNIFICANTLY less expensive that Tite Group and others. Midway had it in stock on Friday. Hugs! Scarlett 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 hey , scarlett , how you doing these days ? ive still got to place an order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostrum Damus SASS #110702 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 I've used Titewad for years as well and it works great. I load light recoiling 3/4 oz loads in Win AA hulls with 209 primers and Claybuster CB0175-12 pink wads. I love shooting the shells and so does 110-lb Bullion Rose and they are more than adequate for every KD we've shot at. I'll check the MEC bushing in my 9000GN tomorrow for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 11 hours ago, Nostrum Damus SASS #110702 said: I've used Titewad for years as well and it works great. I load light recoiling 3/4 oz loads in Win AA hulls with 209 primers and Claybuster CB0175-12 pink wads. I love shooting the shells and so does 110-lb Bullion Rose and they are more than adequate for every KD we've shot at. I'll check the MEC bushing in my 9000GN tomorrow for you. Weigh it if you have a chance,please. Might work for Ellie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostrum Damus SASS #110702 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 (edited) OK, for my light cowboy action loads, I am using charge bar 502-34 in my 9000GN press to drop 3/4 oz of #8 lead shot, with powder bushing #20 which drops about 14.4 gr of Titewad under Claybuster CB0175-12 pink wads. I use Federal 209A primers, not 209 as previously mentioned, though I doubt that matters at all. Great cowboy action shell. Edited April 8 by Nostrum Damus SASS #110702 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend P. Babcock Chase Posted April 8 Author Share Posted April 8 Wow, You guys are terrific. The above should get me started. Thanks. Rev. Chase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog, 107692 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 I too am changing to Titewad for shotgun to save my remaining Clays for 38. Is Titewad very temperature sensitive with the lower loads? I had issues in the past with Clays in light loads in the cold weather 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostrum Damus SASS #110702 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 7 hours ago, Groundhog, 107692 said: I too am changing to Titewad for shotgun to save my remaining Clays for 38. Is Titewad very temperature sensitive with the lower loads? I had issues in the past with Clays in light loads in the cold weather I've never had any problem at any outdoor temperature I'm willing to go shooting in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go West Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 American Select is a great shotgun powder. I haven't bought it in years, but mention it since you said you had it. Try 13.4 gr. with 7/8 shot. I had another press at the time so I can't give you the bushing number. Remington hulls, Claybuster 7/8 wads, and any primer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 On 4/5/2024 at 9:16 PM, Charlie MacNeil, SASS #48580 said: I've been using Titewad ever since I discovered that it was a whole lot less expensive than the Clays and 700-x I was using for shotgun loads. I don't remember the bushing size, but I'm loading 13 grains of Titewad in AA hulls using Claybuster 7/8 ounce gray wads and whatever 209 primers I have on hand. Relatively light recoil in my hammer double and never fails to tip the knockdowns over unless I have a brain fart and forget what that shiny round thing on the end of the shotgun barrels is for... Are you using a filler to raise the stack so you get a good crimp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Yeah well, NONE OF THE ABOVE. Simple solution. APP. APP is a real simple solution. Readily available with no concern for Nitrocellulose. Easier clean-up than that heathen stuff. Wunderfuller you betcha!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 9 hours ago, John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 said: Are you using a filler to raise the stack so you get a good crimp. I’m not using Titewad but I’m using Perfect Pattern with 11 gr. I’ve used the next smaller bushing to get a good crimp. 1oz bushing for 11/8oz load, 7/8oz bushing for 1oz load and 3/4oz bushing for 7/8oz load. Having really good results and get over 5000 shells with an 8lb jug. Randy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 SO: Not that I'm much interested in the Fad Heathen Smokeless stuff. Anybody loading TightWad in pistol Suppositories?? I usta load C45S with TightGroup but haven't bought/used any in a real long time. Just curious if TightWad is a suitable substitute (Quote SEARS Xmas deliveries)??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 56 minutes ago, Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 said: I’m not using Titewad but I’m using Perfect Pattern with 11 gr. I’ve used the next smaller bushing to get a good crimp. 1oz bushing for 11/8oz load, 7/8oz bushing for 1oz load and 3/4oz bushing for 7/8oz load. Having really good results and get over 5000 shells with an 8lb jug. Randy You lost me. With small powder charge my stack is short and the crimp is concave. I’d need a filler to make it tall enough to get a good crimp. Is there a longer wad than the gray claybuster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 2 hours ago, John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 said: You lost me. With small powder charge my stack is short and the crimp is concave. I’d need a filler to make it tall enough to get a good crimp. Is there a longer wad than the gray claybuster? Yes in place of the Claybuster grey 7/8 wad I use the Claybuster pink 3/4 wad. By putting 7/8oz shot in a 3/4oz wad you get the equivalent of adding a filler or over shot card in a 7/8 wad. Randy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 2 hours ago, John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 said: You lost me. With small powder charge my stack is short and the crimp is concave. I’d need a filler to make it tall enough to get a good crimp. Is there a longer wad than the gray claybuster? Here's the 3/4 wad. https://www.ballisticproducts.com/Claybuster-CB017512-12ga-3_4oz-wad-bag_500/productinfo/030CB107512/ Randy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 23 minutes ago, Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 said: Here's the 3/4 wad. https://www.ballisticproducts.com/Claybuster-CB017512-12ga-3_4oz-wad-bag_500/productinfo/030CB107512/ Randy Thanks Randy, Looks like I’ll be ordering some wads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Surgeon Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 8 hours ago, John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 said: Thanks Randy, Looks like I’ll be ordering some wads. I use about 14.5 gr of titewad with 3/4oz shot using the pink 3/4 once wads. my crimps are fine. i can pick you up some wads and bring them to the next match if you want. i need to pick some more up anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 23 minutes ago, The Surgeon said: I use about 14.5 gr of titewad with 3/4oz shot using the pink 3/4 once wads. my crimps are fine. i can pick you up some wads and bring them to the next match if you want. i need to pick some more up anyway. You’re reading my mind. I was going to text you this morning. That would be great. Can you also see if they have Promo or Red Dot & prices? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Badly Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 43 minutes ago, John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 said: You’re reading my mind. I was going to text you this morning. That would be great. Can you also see if they have Promo or Red Dot & prices? https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item/00137150603/alliant-red-dot-smokeless-shotshell-powder-8-lb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 1 hour ago, Mister Badly said: https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item/00137150603/alliant-red-dot-smokeless-shotshell-powder-8-lb And right now they have free hazmat or free shipping, your choice. Midway also has free hazmat now but they are $10 higher on 8lb of Red Dot. Randy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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