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Hells Comin

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Several things could be wrong.  The rod that operates the shell inserter could be off.  The inserter itself might need adjusting.  The square block the inserter rides on could be dirty/gummy and not allowing the inserter to push the shell all the way.  Some parts could be worn.  It is hard to see from the photo but if you are talking about the priming station the spring loaded arm that holds the shell in place could need adjustment or be dirty or damaged.  When the shell is all the way into the shellplate the little finger should be just touching the rim.

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When was the last time it had a good cleaning and service?

I just solved this same issue on a pards press.

I would start with Larsens suggestion. That's the most simple issues to solve.

But the press I was working on was a combination of build up under the shell plate and improper setup of the plate. The mounting bolt came loose and allowed the plate to wobble too much. Also if you have a centering tool, use it to ensure the sizing die is in line with the pocket on the plate. You can use a casing if not. Just loosen the die a little, run the casing or the tool up into the die and lock it back down. Ensure the plate is set right first.

 

Hope this helps. 

Get ahold of me if you need or want too.

 

Looking forward to seeing you at Eldorado in a few months

 

 

Beaver

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I’m betting on a little crud buildup in the shell holder. Just enough so the case is not exactly in line with the powder powder funnel. 

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Hells,

This happened to me.

In my situation the block that pushes the case into the shell plate did not move the full length.

How it got out of alignment may have resulted because of resetting all the dies after I broke a depriming pin.

After adjusting, all is now good.

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3 hours ago, Shooting Bull said:

Seems like a stupid question but I'll ask anyway, does that only happen at station #2? 

Yes and it primes perfectly 

2 hours ago, Ranger Dan said:

Does it happen in station 1 or 2 ???

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7 minutes ago, Hells Comin said:

Yes and it primes perfectly 

If it primes perfectly what are you having to push in?  Are you talking pushing the shell further into the shell plate or something else?

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10 minutes ago, Hells Comin said:

Yes and it primes perfectly 

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Loosen the shell guide (metal spring loaded tab) it is too tight and tips the shell just enough that the opening is off center of the expander / powder funnel. It primes fine because there is enough pressure when priming to over power the spring tension of the locator tab. The tab should not touch the shell when it is all the way in the shell plate. A gap of a couple mm is good. Also recommend cleaning the shell plate in case there is dirt in the slot.

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As most know cleaning is essential and often overlooked.  Working with a 650 also presents some unique challenges.  I make it a habit that after a loading session I clean the externals of the machine with compressed air, and pull the powder measure and wash it.  BEFORE another round of reloading parts start coming off to clean and lubricate including the shell plate, the case seater, the case tube from the case feeder and especially station 2.  After hearing about and personally know someone who had a primer detonation I take special care to tear down the primer assembly and clean and lubricate as well. 

 

IMHO I’ve saved myself a lot of heartache and messed up brass by taking the time to do the preventive maintenance.  

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19 hours ago, Beaver said:

When was the last time it had a good cleaning and service?

I just solved this same issue on a pards press.

I would start with Larsens suggestion. That's the most simple issues to solve.

But the press I was working on was a combination of build up under the shell plate and improper setup of the plate. The mounting bolt came loose and allowed the plate to wobble too much. Also if you have a centering tool, use it to ensure the sizing die is in line with the pocket on the plate. You can use a casing if not. Just loosen the die a little, run the casing or the tool up into the die and lock it back down. Ensure the plate is set right first.

 

Hope this helps. 

Get ahold of me if you need or want too.

 

Looking forward to seeing you at Eldorado in a few months

 

 

Beaver

A good cleaning, grease and oil cured that problem with mine as well.

 

Randy

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50 minutes ago, Hells Comin said:

I'd do that, looks like most of the accessories Will swap over. I'll give them a 100 bucks and my 650.

Perfect.  Just give em $200 and get a 1050.  Let us know how all this works out.  Somehow expect you will pass over the $100 bucks anyway. :D

Good luck.

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17 hours ago, Billy Boots, # 20282 LTG-Regulator said:

Perfect.  Just give em $200 and get a 1050.  Let us know how all this works out.  Somehow expect you will pass over the $100 bucks anyway. :D

Good luck

I have heard that the 1050 does NOT have the same outstanding parts warranty as the other models.

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