Lone Rider SASS#32091 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 I am new to shotgun reloading and need to buy some shot. Does it matter much at the distances we shoot whether the shot is chilled or magnum shot? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 It has been my experience that it does not much matter. It is probably more a case of what is available , now. Imis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G W Wade Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Only thing I worry about is price. Shot reclaimed when can find decent quailty Got some one time was so dirty that even after washing and rinsing considered melting down to make bullets GW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOOTIN FOX Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 I make and sell new 7.5 shot. #65 to your door for $140. This shot has been screened for size, tumbled and graphited. I ship on Receipt of payment with tracking and insurance. I can also deliver to EOT. Fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Harley, #14153 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 At our distances it makes no difference. Buy what you can find and afford, load ‘em up, and have fun knocking down plates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostrum Damus SASS #110702 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, SHOOTIN FOX said: I make and sell new 7.5 shot. #65 to your door for $140. This shot has been screened for size, tumbled and graphited. I ship on Receipt of payment with tracking and insurance. I can also deliver to EOT. Fox That is a GREAT price these days. Lawrence is selling two 25-lb bags of #7.5 Graphited Magnum Shot for $170 plus $28 shipping. Next time I need to resupply, I'll be contacting you, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOOTIN FOX Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 If I deliver to EOT it is $40 for #25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 The main difference in shot is the antimony content. The higher the antimony the harder the shot. Chilled shot is typically 2% antimony. (Soft) Magnum shot is typically between 4 and 6% antimony. (Hard) Makes a difference shooting competitive clay sports at 40+ yards. Makes zero difference at the point blank range SASS targets are set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 I loaded a shell with spent primers and knocked a KD target down (not at a match!). I would not do it again as the primers are a bit harder than lead shot. Reclaimed, chilled and magnum have all worked for me. FWIW I load all with #6 now since larger shot is better for social incidences. You just never know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOOTIN FOX Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 PMs answered. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Rich Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Any shot that is "chilled" is harder than it would be if it were not chilled. When you drop hot shot or bullets in cold water it will harden it considerably. Google Los Angeles Shooting club and you can find out about the effects of cold water on hot lead. kR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint N. Steele Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 I load reclaimed shot I buy from the trap club. Knockdowns don't care if the shot is *round.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe Regulator Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 I think the difference is in how much comes back on the gallery. I always use chilled shot from Lawrence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Hochbauer, SASS #64409 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Whichever one is cheapest when I need to buy. Hochbauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Spade Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Roto metals was running a special on two 25 pound bags shipped for $125. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fretless Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 20 hours ago, Tom Bullweed said: FWIW I load all with #6 now Some ranges I shoot at don't allow anything larger than 7.5, but that's a side track to this thread. Does the larger shot increase the splatter on the gallery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"Big Boston" Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 I agree with the consensus that for the cowboy game, not an important factor. Back when shot was made by dropping molten lead from a tower, antimony was required to help round out the pellets, so all shot had some antimony and chilling it made it harder. Given the card and fiber wads without a shot cup, hard shot was necessary for decent patterns. Again, not a factor in our game, but for shooting flying game, pattern is an important factor. Extra Hard or Magnum shot has more antimony, tends to be a bit rounder, and depending on the loading and shotgun, would hold a tighter and denser pattern with fewer flyers. I have bought Extra Hard shot to enrich bullet lead, because of it's antimony content. At the price and scarcity of shot today, that is like throwing money away, not a smart budgeting move. Larger shot tends to have a higher antimony content than the smaller shot. Several books list percentages, but they vary. There are no standards. Back in the day, skeet was my game, and I loaded with #9 Extra Hard. I felt that even a couple pellets would break a target. The Extra Hard was brought in for the International Trap and Skeet shooters, the targets were harder and flew faster, chilled shot didn't work as well. Depending on the target, a bit of a choke helps. Most of the cowboy guns are cut down full chokes, and the barrels are short, they are true scatterguns. I tested patterns with a barrel, cutting of an inch or two at a time. On a 30" barrel I cut off the choke and began testing. The patterns were large and stayed fairly consistent until about 22", And at 20" the patterns was scattering noticeably and only got worse the shorter you went. At 22", you could still do a bit of old school back bore jug choke work and get a better pattern. The shotgun I usually use has a Cyl. choke and is 20", it's pattern is large and it has less authority than the average at our club. I shoot 7/8 and/or 1 oz. so I could increase the amount of shot if I needed more power. In my '97 clone with a screw in choke, I went with a skeet choke for a bit of pattern control. It is not as slick as my other clone, so it stays in the safe. Slick trumps choke, IMHO. I do wonder which shot tends to ricochet more, soft? or hard? BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOOTIN FOX Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 PMs answered. I will also be at SW Regionals and Comin at cha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 8:17 AM, Lone Rider SASS#32091 said: I am new to shotgun reloading and need to buy some shot. Does it matter much at the distances we shoot whether the shot is chilled or magnum shot? Thanks! I’m holding out until they have some more reclaimed shot at Tusco. Pam has it behind the counter. But they have not had any last since High Noon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOOTIN FOX Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Where are you in OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOOTIN FOX Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 No answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Rider SASS#32091 Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 I’m in the Tulsa area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakebite Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 I can not tell any difference in ANY shot when shooting this game. I suppose that the harder shot might be more prone to feed back at our short distances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe Regulator Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 38 minutes ago, Snakebite said: I can not tell any difference in ANY shot when shooting this game. I suppose that the harder shot might be more prone to feed back at our short distances. It is the same sort of concern as prohibiting steel shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Rider SASS#32091 Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share Posted February 2, 2022 21 hours ago, Lone Rider SASS#32091 said: I’m in the Tulsa area. No answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOOTIN FOX Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 OK, sorry. I am in Mustang and I shoot at the Territorial Marshalls. If you need shot, let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Rider SASS#32091 Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share Posted February 2, 2022 Thanks. I’ll keep that in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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