H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted September 26, 2021 Posted September 26, 2021 For anyone out there who reloads 12 gauge. My own 12 gauge loading is one using Red Dot that my Dad developed for trap shooting. It has served me well. But sometimes I wonder if it's "too much" for CAS use. So, I am gonna just ask in general terms, who can recommend a low pressure 12 gauge load? I use slightly over 1 oz. loads. I don't know if Dad was trying for 1-1/8 or 1, but when I weighed 1.02 ounces. So I that's closer to 1 than is worth worrying about. Any powder. 1 ounce load of shot. Low pressure loading. Want low pressure for use in a couple of old shotguns that are okay for smokeless, but I still wanna be nice to them. I load AAs Suggestions?
captqueeze Posted September 26, 2021 Posted September 26, 2021 Check here, or any other powder manufacturer. https://www.hodgdonreloading.com/reloading-data-center?rdc=true&type=55
Chief Rick Posted September 26, 2021 Posted September 26, 2021 There's been a couple threads but I'll just repeat mine: Win AA or Rem STS hulls Winchester primer Claybuster CB0178-12 (gray) wads 7/8 oz shot 14.4 gr Clays (#26 MEC bushing)
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted September 26, 2021 Posted September 26, 2021 17.0-17.5 -gn of Unique with 3/4-1oz of shot. OLG
Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 Posted September 26, 2021 Posted September 26, 2021 Scanning Alliant's online reloading data I found that either American Select or Green Dot could be loaded to ~7,000 psi with a few different wads. Consider also APP, a BP sub. It's non-corrosive and produces mild loads, but would not be welcome on some trap ranges.
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 I don’t know the charge weight for sure because I’m out of Red Dot and can’t weigh it. I was using a 27 bushing in a MEC reloader with 7/8 oz shot and it seemed lighter than Winchester Low Noise Low Recoil. Randy
Polecat Joe Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 I use: STS Hulls Winchester Primers Claybuster CB0178-12 wads (gray) 7/8 shot 13 Grains of Alliant Red Dot
Boulder Canyon Bob# 32052L Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 AA hulls 7/8 shot Claybuster grey wads CB0178-12 12.3 gr of Clays lighter recoil than Winchester Featherlites
Joe LaFives #5481 Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 5 hours ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said: For anyone out there who reloads 12 gauge. My own 12 gauge loading is one using Red Dot that my Dad developed for trap shooting. It has served me well. But sometimes I wonder if it's "too much" for CAS use. So, I am gonna just ask in general terms, who can recommend a low pressure 12 gauge load? I use slightly over 1 oz. loads. I don't know if Dad was trying for 1-1/8 or 1, but when I weighed 1.02 ounces. So I that's closer to 1 than is worth worrying about. Any powder. 1 ounce load of shot. Low pressure loading. Want low pressure for use in a couple of old shotguns that are okay for smokeless, but I still wanna be nice to them. I load AAs Suggestions? You might notice most folks are use 7/8 oz shot. That helps considerably
J-BAR #18287 Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 Go black and never go back! 2.5 CC Lee dipper (about 38 grains) of whatever blackpowder (2FG or 3FG, NOT 4FG) or substitute you got; white Claybuster plastic wad, 1 oz + or - to get a good tight crimp. Tweak the volume to make it work for your hulls and gun. NO felt recoil. Knockdowns fall over. Yes you have to clean your shotgun’s barrels after shooting. So what.
Slapshot Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 5 hours ago, Chief Rick said: There's been a couple threads but I'll just repeat mine: Win AA or Rem STS hulls Winchester primer Claybuster CB0178-12 (gray) wads 7/8 oz shot 14.4 gr Clays (#26 MEC bushing) This is almost exactly what I was told by a member I know. I used 1oz instead of 7/8ths as I only had Claybuster CB1118-12 WAA12 and not the Claybuster CB0178-12 WAA12L wads. WAA12 wads 1 oz shot 14.5 gr Clays
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 PLUS ONE for J-BAR you betcha. Just another proviso to J-BAR. Brass Hulls. Brass Hulls are Geshund!!
Last Call Saul Posted September 27, 2021 Posted September 27, 2021 I just started loading my 12ga cowboy loads and I am happy with them - the shoot fine and shuck out Win AA HS hulls whatever primer (now 50 years old federal) 14 gr of Clays (#26 on Mec 650N) 7/8 oz 7.5 shot Gray claybusters/WAA12L
Rancho Roy Posted September 28, 2021 Posted September 28, 2021 AA Hulls 15g Clean Shot Powder 1oz #8 Claybuster CB0178-12 (gray) wads Clean Shot power from Scarlet Darling.....Very clean! This load is near identical to the Winchester 980fps cowboy loads, but with a bit more shot......Sometimes you need that lucky BB!
Jefro, SASS#69420 Posted September 28, 2021 Posted September 28, 2021 On 9/26/2021 at 8:41 PM, Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 said: I don’t know the charge weight for sure because I’m out of Red Dot and can’t weigh it. I was using a 27 bushing in a MEC reloader with 7/8 oz shot and it seemed lighter than Winchester Low Noise Low Recoil. Randy Yep, this is a good load for Red Dot. Mec #26 = 14gr. Mec #27 = 15gr that and a gray wad with 7/8oz shot. I use Red Dot for all my smokeless stuff 38/357, 44/40, 45Colt, 45acp and 12ga. Good Luck
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