Yusta B. 1,502 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 On sale at Cabelas - free shipping over $99 - excluding Hazmat. Sale has ended ......... Link to post Share on other sites
Too Tall Bob 1,335 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Excellent price for good reliable primers Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt. Saywut 131 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 How do S&B primers compare to Federal, Winchester, et al. for reliability? Any issues reloading with these when a load recipe calls for one of the other maker’s of primers? Link to post Share on other sites
Michigan Slim 11,528 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I use a ton of them, mainly for my LR, SR and LP. Never had a failure. At our loadings switching primer brands has never been an issue for me. Even between magnum and standard. Link to post Share on other sites
Too Tall Bob 1,335 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 They are all I use anymore. Work great with the holy black. Have yet to have a ftf with them. I use lr, lp & sp. Link to post Share on other sites
Yul Lose 6,816 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Sgt. Saywut said: How do S&B primers compare to Federal, Winchester, et al. for reliability? Any issues reloading with these when a load recipe calls for one of the other maker’s of primers? They’re very good primers, I’ve used about 20k of them and never a FTF. The recipe will work with S and B also. Link to post Share on other sites
Noz 2,019 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I've used over 5000 small primers and they all go bang. Including in my tuned 73. Link to post Share on other sites
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 974 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 they have them in store near me,,, $20 a brick, and cheddite 209s for $26 I smell a trip coiming Link to post Share on other sites
Yusta B. 1,502 Posted December 30, 2017 Author Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 said: they have them in store near me,,, $20 a brick, and cheddite 209s for $26 I smell a trip coiming Go quickly - they bounce the price up & down a lot....... Link to post Share on other sites
The Original Lumpy Gritz 7,649 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 16 hours ago, Sgt. Saywut said: How do S&B primers compare to Federal, Winchester, et al. for reliability? Any issues reloading with these when a load recipe calls for one of the other maker’s of primers? They are a NATO supplier-S&B makes very good ammo and components. OLG Link to post Share on other sites
John Boy 976 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Quote They are a NATO supplier-S&B makes very good ammo and components. And S&B is an ISO Certified Company ... http://www.isocertified.net/what-does-iso-certified-mean.html Link to post Share on other sites
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 974 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 the local Cabelas didn't have any, so had to order,,, with haz mat too,, but ordered 10k and 2 k cheddite 209s for under $300 Link to post Share on other sites
Jackaroo, # 29989 276 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 And the quality is better than Federals Link to post Share on other sites
TN Mongo, SASS #61450 544 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 How soft are they compared to Federals? Federals have been the only thing that I have found that will ignite reliably with the wife's and my short stroked revolvers, with light springs and both our Codymatics. I would be great to find another brand of primers that would work well. Link to post Share on other sites
Too Tall Bob 1,335 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 my experience has been that they actually ignite easier. Buy some and try them out! Link to post Share on other sites
Yusta B. 1,502 Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 28 minutes ago, TN Mongo, SASS #61450 said: How soft are they compared to Federals? Federals have been the only thing that I have found that will ignite reliably with the wife's and my short stroked revolvers, with light springs and both our Codymatics. I would be great to find another brand of primers that would work well. My son uses them in his Jimmy Spurs NMVs & his Cody '73. No complaints. '73s are easy to adjust some more hammer spring if needed. Link to post Share on other sites
Southpaw Gringo, SASS # 74217 49 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 hour ago, TN Mongo, SASS #61450 said: How soft are they compared to Federals? Federals have been the only thing that I have found that will ignite reliably with the wife's and my short stroked revolvers, with light springs and both our Codymatics. I would be great to find another brand of primers that would work well. They are most defiantly harder than Federals. Examining the primer hits under magnification they look like there a hardness of Winchesters. My results are like what Yusta B stated. My Jimmy Spur Vaqueros and lightened 73 have no problem setting them off. I would recommend them... Link to post Share on other sites
Major Art Tillery 681 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I bought 5,000 large pistol S&B to use in Starline 44-40 Brass. I had probably 100 or so that didn't go Bang for me.. in my 73 Cody-matic. Everything else I used them in for large pistol worked flawlessly. Switched to Federal in the rifle and have no problems. Link to post Share on other sites
Tyrel Cody 5,264 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 3 hours ago, Major Art Tillery said: I bought 5,000 large pistol S&B to use in Starline 44-40 Brass. I had probably 100 or so that didn't go Bang for me.. in my 73 Cody-matic. Everything else I used them in for large pistol worked flawlessly. Switched to Federal in the rifle and have no problems. I've had trouble getting the S & B primers to seat in Starline 44-40 brass; the primer pockets seem too small for those primers. Wonder if it's the 44-40 brass instead of the primers, as they seem to work fine in 44 Russian and/or 45's Link to post Share on other sites
Major Art Tillery 681 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Tyrel Cody said: I've had trouble getting the S & B primers to seat in Starline 44-40 brass; the primer pockets seem too small for those primers. Wonder if it's the 44-40 brass instead of the primers, as they seem to work fine in 44 Russian and/or 45's I have wondered the same thing. Another shooter using them in a 44-40 as well had trouble with reliability of S&B primers. He thought they seat into primer pocket further then other primers... But I honestly don't have a clue. Link to post Share on other sites
Kid Rich 917 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 The 44-40 is my main match rifle. The only primers that I've had trouble with are federals. In the last 6 months I've probably had 5 or 6 ftf's. None of the S&B primers have failed in rifle or pistols. All of my CAS guns have lightened springs. As far as seating primers in 44-40 brass there are some brands of brass that are more difficult to get the brass seated properly. KR Link to post Share on other sites
High Spade Mikey Wilson 360 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Thanks for the heads up. I just ordered 5K. Link to post Share on other sites
Yusta B. 1,502 Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 6 hours ago, Tyrel Cody said: I've had trouble getting the S & B primers to seat in Starline 44-40 brass; the primer pockets seem too small for those primers. Wonder if it's the 44-40 brass instead of the primers, as they seem to work fine in 44 Russian and/or 45's I find the SP primers to be a little tight in new cases. I think I read where they are about .001" or so larger than U.S. made primers. Link to post Share on other sites
Lead Monger 335 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 S&B primers are metric. Slightly larger than American primers. Same thing with Chedditte and RIO 209s. Link to post Share on other sites
meesterpaul 23 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Had several FTF in Marlin 1894 with one piece firing pin. Two Vaqueros fired those same FTF rounds a few minutes later. Both revolvers have non-stock springs, probably 18 or19lb. Next time I had FTF in the Marlin I didn't lever the round out but just re-cocked the hammer and got a fire. Maybe I had pulled the trigger on the FTFs a little too soon - before the cartridge was seated fully in the chamber, and got a soft hit. In any case; the S&B are distinctly harder than Federal 150s. They show no deformation/flattening of the firing pin hit in the primer while the Fed 150s show mild flattening from pushback even with 200gr moderate power 45s. I'll use up my remaining S&Bs in my Vaqueros or in rifle loads that I'm not trying to shoot rapidly. Link to post Share on other sites
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