S&B Primers all sizes - UPDATE 1st post

[Yusta B. 1,365]

On sale at Cabelas - free shipping over $99 - excluding Hazmat.

 

Sale has ended .........

[Too Tall Bob 1,273]

Excellent price for good reliable primers

[Sgt. Saywut 131]

How do S&B primers compare to Federal, Winchester, et al.  for reliability?  Any issues reloading with these when a load recipe calls for one of the other maker’s of primers?

[Michigan Slim 4,520]

I use a ton of them, mainly for my LR, SR and LP. Never had a failure. 

At our loadings switching primer brands has never been an issue for me. Even between magnum and standard.

[Too Tall Bob 1,273]

They are all I use anymore. Work great with the holy black. Have yet to have a ftf with them. I use lr, lp & sp. 

[Yul Lose 5,967]

1 hour ago, Sgt. Saywut said:

How do S&B primers compare to Federal, Winchester, et al.  for reliability?  Any issues reloading with these when a load recipe calls for one of the other maker’s of primers?

They’re very good primers, I’ve used about 20k of them and never a FTF. The recipe will work with S and B also.

[Noz 1,730]

I've used over 5000 small primers and they all go bang.

Including in my tuned 73.

[Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 952]

they have them in store near me,,, $20 a brick,   and cheddite 209s for $26   I smell a trip coiming 

[Yusta B. 1,365]

2 hours ago, Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 said:

they have them in store near me,,, $20 a brick,   and cheddite 209s for $26   I smell a trip coiming 

Go quickly - they bounce the price up & down a lot.......

[The Original Lumpy Gritz 7,021]

16 hours ago, Sgt. Saywut said:

How do S&B primers compare to Federal, Winchester, et al.  for reliability?  Any issues reloading with these when a load recipe calls for one of the other maker’s of primers?

They are a NATO supplier-S&B makes very good ammo and components.

OLG

[John Boy 787]

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They are a NATO supplier-S&B makes very good ammo and components.

And S&B is an ISO Certified Company ...

http://www.isocertified.net/what-does-iso-certified-mean.html

[Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 952]

the local Cabelas didn't have any, so had to order,,, with haz mat too,,  but ordered 10k and 2 k cheddite 209s for under $300  

[Jackaroo, # 29989 251]

And the quality is better than Federals

[TN Mongo, SASS #61450 448]

How soft are they compared to Federals?  Federals have been the only thing that I have found that will ignite reliably with the wife's and my short stroked revolvers, with light springs and both our Codymatics.

 

I would be great to find another brand of primers that would work well.

[Too Tall Bob 1,273]

my experience has been that they actually ignite easier. Buy some and try them out!

[Yusta B. 1,365]

28 minutes ago, TN Mongo, SASS #61450 said:

How soft are they compared to Federals?  Federals have been the only thing that I have found that will ignite reliably with the wife's and my short stroked revolvers, with light springs and both our Codymatics.

 

I would be great to find another brand of primers that would work well.

My son uses them in his Jimmy Spurs NMVs & his Cody '73. No complaints. '73s are easy to adjust some more hammer spring if needed.

[Southpaw Gringo, SASS # 74217 46]

1 hour ago, TN Mongo, SASS #61450 said:

How soft are they compared to Federals?  Federals have been the only thing that I have found that will ignite reliably with the wife's and my short stroked revolvers, with light springs and both our Codymatics.

 

I would be great to find another brand of primers that would work well.

They are most defiantly harder than Federals. Examining the primer hits under magnification they look like there a hardness of Winchesters. My results are like what Yusta B stated. My Jimmy Spur Vaqueros and lightened 73 have no problem setting them off. I would recommend them...

[Major Art Tillery 592]

I bought 5,000 large pistol S&B to use in Starline 44-40 Brass.  I had probably 100 or so that didn't go Bang for me.. in my 73 Cody-matic.  Everything else I used them in for large pistol worked flawlessly.  Switched to Federal in the rifle and have no problems.  

[Tyrel Cody 4,877]

3 hours ago, Major Art Tillery said:

I bought 5,000 large pistol S&B to use in Starline 44-40 Brass.  I had probably 100 or so that didn't go Bang for me.. in my 73 Cody-matic.  Everything else I used them in for large pistol worked flawlessly.  Switched to Federal in the rifle and have no problems.  

 

I've had trouble getting the S & B primers to seat in Starline 44-40 brass; the primer pockets seem too small for those primers. Wonder if it's the 44-40 brass instead of the primers, as they seem to work  fine in 44 Russian and/or 45's

[Major Art Tillery 592]

1 minute ago, Tyrel Cody said:

 

I've had trouble getting the S & B primers to seat in Starline 44-40 brass; the primer pockets seem too small for those primers. Wonder if it's the 44-40 brass instead of the primers, as they seem to work  fine in 44 Russian and/or 45's

I have wondered the same thing.  Another shooter using them in a 44-40 as well had trouble with reliability of S&B primers.  He thought they seat into primer pocket further then other primers... But I honestly don't have a clue.

[Kid Rich 648]

The 44-40 is my main match rifle. The only primers that I've had trouble with are federals. In the last 6 months I've probably had 5 or 6 ftf's. None of the S&B primers have failed in rifle or pistols. All of my CAS guns have lightened springs.  As far as seating primers in 44-40 brass there are some brands of brass that are more difficult to get the brass seated properly.

KR

[High Spade Mikey Wilson 267]

Thanks for the heads up. I just ordered 5K.

[Yusta B. 1,365]

6 hours ago, Tyrel Cody said:

 

I've had trouble getting the S & B primers to seat in Starline 44-40 brass; the primer pockets seem too small for those primers. Wonder if it's the 44-40 brass instead of the primers, as they seem to work  fine in 44 Russian and/or 45's

I find the SP primers to be a little tight in new cases. I think I read where they are about .001" or so larger than U.S. made primers.

[Lead Monger 335]

S&B primers are metric. Slightly larger than American primers. Same thing with Chedditte and RIO 209s. 

[meesterpaul 5]

Had several FTF in Marlin 1894 with one piece firing pin. Two Vaqueros fired those same FTF rounds a few minutes later. Both revolvers have non-stock springs, probably 18  or19lb.  Next time I had FTF in the Marlin I didn't lever the round out but just re-cocked the hammer and got a fire. Maybe I had pulled the trigger on the FTFs a little too soon - before the cartridge was seated fully in the chamber, and got a soft hit.

In any case; the S&B are distinctly harder than Federal 150s. They show no deformation/flattening of the firing pin hit in the primer while the Fed 150s show  mild flattening from pushback even with 200gr moderate power 45s.

I'll use up my remaining S&Bs in my Vaqueros or in rifle loads that I'm not trying to shoot rapidly.