Deuce Stevens SASS#55996 Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 Looking to start shooting some derringer side matches. I know I am going to go with a Bond. Anyone have a suggestion for favorite model and caliber? I am open to .32's, .38's and 45's. Let me know what you think works best and why. Again I will be buying a Bond.
Gold Canyon Kid #43974 Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 32 would be my choice. The least recoil you can get works to slip hammer off 2 shots in about a second after picking it up. I can sure fire two faster with my 22 (not legal for us),than my 38s with lightest loads I can load.
Buckaroo Bubba Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 See this Deuce http://sassnet.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=236162
Straight Arrow Hombre Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 i think you'd do well with a cobra. Purple with pink grips is the ticket.
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 .32. That way if you shoot pocket pistol you can use the same .32 S&W ammo.
crosscut hardy Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Hey Deuce, Bond all the way. And now they make a version with a extra wide hammer. In my case, having bought a Bond before they came out with the extra wide hammer...I just ordered the wide hammer and installed, works a lot better. I have done pretty decent with the larger calibers but recently bought a .327mag...so now I'm able to shoot 5 different cart. in this barrel. You will enjoy doing this Deuce. ...crosscut
Dirty Bart No. 100006 Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 I'm with Straight Arrow, except add Sparkles so we can see the bling.
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 When did the .22 become not legal ? Jabez Cowboy
Deuce Stevens SASS#55996 Posted April 18, 2015 Author Posted April 18, 2015 32 would be my choice. The least recoil you can get works to slip hammer off 2 shots in about a second after picking it up. I can sure fire two faster with my 22 (not legal for us),than my 38s with lightest loads I can load. Page 18 of shooters Handbook A Derringer is defined as an external hammer, fixed sight, breech loading or percussion ignition, small frame pre-1900 design firearm having one to four barrels up to three and one- half inches long. Derringers must be .22 caliber or larger. The Remington style over/under barrel configuration and the Sharps four-barreled Pepperbox are typical SASS–legal Derringers. .22 Magnum ammunition is not allowed.
Blastmaster Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 A gamer would say. Appears 22 magnum is not allowed. No mention about the 22CB, 22Short or 22 Long Rifle. They are 22 caliber, so they must. LOL, I don't do derringer side match so I haven't got a dog in this fight.
Deuce Stevens SASS#55996 Posted April 18, 2015 Author Posted April 18, 2015 A gamer would say.Appears 22 magnum is not allowed.No mention about the 22CB, 22Short or 22 Long Rifle. They are 22 caliber, so they must.LOL, I don't do derringer side match so I haven't got a dog in this fight. Wouldn't do me any good locally as most place do a reload, I'm leaning towards .45 for that reason.
I. M. Crossdraw, SASS# 8321 Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Deuce, I have the Texas Defender model with an extended wood grip. The extended grip is a must if you have a larger hand. I have a medium size hand and fits right for me. The standard grip is too small and not able to grip with my pinky finger. With the extended grip, all my fingers are gripping the derringer. BTW, I use my main match ammo and it works fine for it, 38 sp. cal. Will probably get the 32 cal. barrel in a near future. The derringer has a trigger guard and I place my left index finger on it when firing. Don't want that finger in front of that lower barrel. OUCH! It also helps me stabilize the firearm when rapid firing. Have fun. I. M. Crossdraw
Lefty Dude, SASS # 51223 Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Bond 45 with a 45CS cartridge with a .452" round ball and enough Trail boss to make the ball exit the barrel.
Blackey Cole Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Think about size if you have to reload on clock. I have the Texas slayer iirc with the 45lc/.410 barrel bullets drop in, switched to the compition sping set and it's easy to cock and fire you can slip hammer the bond it will advance without having to release the trigger so that's a plus. The recoil from a lite 45 LC isn't bad and it's easy to load, I'm wanting 38/357 and 22lr barrels also.
Blastmaster Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Wouldn't do me any good locally as most place do a reload, I'm leaning towards .45 for that reason. Wow!! A reload with a flip barreled derringer on a side match? Majority of folks I've seen at side match day are not familiar enough with loading a derringer w/o breaking the 170 rule. So, it ended up being a two shot event.
Anvil Al #59168 Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Know someone that has a .45 snake slayer just put up for sale. Holler if you want his info.
Straight Arrow Hombre Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Wow!! A reload with a flip barreled derringer on a side match? Majority of folks I've seen at side match day are not familiar enough with loading a derringer w/o breaking the 170 rule. So, it ended up being a two shot event. Get out more.
Assassin Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 We mess around with some long range derringer stuff out behind the barn. It's easy to hit targets at 25=35 yards. One must use both index fingers in order to squeeze trigger evenly. Could start a new category and shoot all pistol targets with derringer, call it "Gambler", lots of reloads.
Rev Willy Dunkum, SASS # 61027 Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 The Bond is a great choice, but when I found an American Arms in 44 mag I heard it calling my name. The 44 is what I shoot CAS with so it works with my 44 Russians. I did shoot it in a state side match once, and the larger caliber derringers are a handful. A 38 special is plenty so if you're serious about competing in that side match I'd go with a smaller caliber. I just do it to have fun, and with black powder of course. The Gun Engraver made a few attractive touches to it as well.
Single Action,SASS 30155 Gunfighter Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Hi, Deuce I have a Bond with several barrels. The 44-40 works well for fast reloads. The tapered bottleneck cases fall out easily.
Hogleg Hunter Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 Use the .38 short colt cartridge in the .38 deringer. Light recoil yet big enough to reload easily
COLORADO JACKSON Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Looking to start shooting some derringer side matches. I know I am going to go with a Bond. Anyone have a suggestion for favorite model and caliber? I am open to .32's, .38's and 45's. Let me know what you think works best and why. Again I will be buying a Bond. Best advice I can give you Deuce is stay away....far far away!
Gold Canyon Kid #43974 Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Deuce, I have the Texas Defender model with an extended wood grip. The extended grip is a must if you have a larger hand. I have a medium size hand and fits right for me. The standard grip is too small and not able to grip with my pinky finger. With the extended grip, all my fingers are gripping the derringer. BTW, I use my main match ammo and it works fine for it, 38 sp. cal. Will probably get the 32 cal. barrel in a near future. The derringer has a trigger guard and I place my left index finger on it when firing. Don't want that finger in front of that lower barrel. OUCH! It also helps me stabilize the firearm when rapid firing. Have fun. I. M. Crossdraw I was under the impression those kind of grips were illegal. At least 2 state championships they ruled that way.
Tommy Reb Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Hello Deuce. I've had Bond Arms Derringers in 22LR, 357 Mag, 44 Special (two sets of 44 Spl barrels), 45 ACP and 45 Colt. The only ones that were well regulated were the 22LR and 357 barrels. The poorly regulated barrels always placed shots from the lower barrel, low; and shots from the upper barrel, high. Probably due to the differences in muzzle flip associated with the barrels. Same results, even with very light loads. Yes, the other barrels were regulated well enough for CAS but I appreciate the accuracy associated with a properly regulated derringer. Of course I do not know if any general conclusions can be drawn from my limited sample, but that was my experience. By the way, I also have an American Derringer in 357 and it is poorly regulated as well. Maybe I just expect too much from my derringers. TR
Michigan Slim Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Sell ya mine for $1800.00. I'll even throw in a box of .410 shells and bring it too you. Just cause I'm a nice guy.
Okiepan Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 I use a Cobra 38 Special , That way I can shoot 38 Short Colt's and 38 Long Colt's or 38 Special, So I have the Varity Again choose is everything , I would get the feel of ALL the different brands that you like and get the one that feels the best in your hands.
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