Sgt. John Campbell, SASS #58165 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 I've been dwelling on this, and thought I'd share my thoughts on the subject. If, heaven forbid, the Congress passes an AWB, how will this affect your CAS shooting? In particular, look at all the postings here, and on other websites, pertaining to ammunition and reloading component shortages. I've got enough rounds loaded up, and extra components on hand, to make it through the next season of CAS/WB shoots (although I could use an extra case or two of shotgun shells). That said, if this were to be passed, I have to wonder if I should keep on shooting as normal, or if I should scale back, and preserve my ammunition supplies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 It would only impact me if the CAS ammo components I use become scarce. I don't expect they will. Perhaps in the short term with primers being the main problem. But as manufacturers ramp up production that will probably ease up. If some weird bill passes that effects 45 Colt brass,and blead and Black Powder and subs, I would have to look for another hobby. Maybe quilting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Bisley Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 It would only impact me if the CAS ammo components I use become scarce. I don't expect they will. Perhaps in the short term with primers being the main problem. But as manufacturers ramp up production that will probably ease up. If some weird bill passes that effects 45 Colt brass,and blead and Black Powder and subs, I would have to look for another hobby. Maybe quilting. :rolleyes:/> ah-uh-uh... careful now... those crochet hooks and knitting needles may become viewed as deadly weapons! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 ah-uh-uh... careful now... those crochet hooks and knitting needles may become viewed as deadly weapons! LOL :)/> Probably afraid you'll knit an Afghan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother King, SASS #69031 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Probably afraid you'll knit an Afghan. :lol:/> :lol:/> :lol:/> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madd Mike #8595 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 save enough supplies to protect the family and home front just in case bad criminals come after anything you may have not peronoid just planning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seldom Seen #16162 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 It depends if lever action rifles ammo capacity is reduced by a AWB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Slim SASS #24733 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 When California did it's hi cap mag ban we had to convince them to specifically exempt lever action rifles. At first they said no problem, that isn't who we meant. But we had them exempt them anyway, don't trust them. Didn't see any exemption in the Feinstein federal bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okie Sawbones, SASS #77381 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I don't believe politicians have forgotten the big swing to the GOP after the last AWB. Foremost, politicians want to cover their own jobs. I don't see an AWB passing, or if it does, it will be watered down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madd Mike #8595 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 It depends if lever action rifles ammo capacity is reduced by a AWB. i am sure you are just jokeing if not ammo taxes are next reloading taxes r next that WILL happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gateway Kid SASS# 70038 Life Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 i am sure you are just jokeing if not ammo taxes are next reloading taxes r next that WILL happen :huh:/>/>/>/> It already is happening here in Colorado. Our Liberal Democrat Govenor, John Hickengoober sp? decided to give the Colorado side of the NICS (our CBI) time off to spend with family after the school shooting in Sandy Hook. Instead of 20 or more employees doing the checks 24/7, there are now 3, two in the AM and 1 in the PM. Current wait time is over 100+ BUSINESS? hours, not including Sunday or holidays. Further his phone # mailbox "is full" and he is no longer accepting new calls regarding his actions. I had decided several months ago to get an M&P shield which finally showed up last week. I started the paperwork process (which usually takes 30 minutes or so) on Wednesday the 21st and my background check came in today about an hour ago. How is making a law abiding gun owner wait over a week stopping the next nutjob? I was told that there is no clear time frame to complete new applications because the only answer the CBI will give is the ambiguous "100+" hours. :o/>/>/> Regards :FlagAm:/>/>/> Gateway (thoroughly confused) Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 When California did it's hi cap mag ban we had to convince them to specifically exempt lever action rifles. At first they said no problem, that isn't who we meant. But we had them exempt them anyway, don't trust them. Didn't see any exemption in the Feinstein federal bill. 19th Century assault weapons is what we all shoot in SASS. Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 As long as there are at least two of us, I'll keep on shooting - one shooter, one TO/RO/counter and we're good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 ah-uh-uh... careful now... those crochet hooks and knitting needles may become viewed as deadly weapons! LOL :)/> Yep. The TSA banned them on aircraft after they caught a granny knitting an Afgan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calico Mary Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Yep. The TSA banned them on aircraft after they caught a granny knitting an Afgan. :unsure:/> Actually, knitting needles could be sharpened enough to make them a dangerous weapon in the wrong hands (not granny's of course), but I don't think you could do a whole lotta harm with most crochet hooks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I've been dwelling on this, and thought I'd share my thoughts on the subject. If, heaven forbid, the Congress passes an AWB, how will this affect your CAS shooting? In particular, look at all the postings here, and on other websites, pertaining to ammunition and reloading component shortages. I've got enough rounds loaded up, and extra components on hand, to make it through the next season of CAS/WB shoots (although I could use an extra case or two of shotgun shells). That said, if this were to be passed, I have to wonder if I should keep on shooting as normal, or if I should scale back, and preserve my ammunition supplies. I'm going to shoot as normal. Component shortages have plagued us for years and I've learned to keep supplies on hand. If I run short I'll shoot more cap 'n ball and .22s. I suspect match attendance will wither away before I have to quit. Life is too short to cut back on recreation. The current shortage will pass as have others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Sights, SASS # 2782 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 i am sure you are just jokeing if not ammo taxes are next reloading taxes r next that WILL happen No joke. Reading the bill that has been proposed by the CA Senator, shows no exemption for tubular fed lever action rifles, other than .22 caliber ones. That tube under the centerfire rifle is considered the "ammunition feeding device" and is considered to be a "high capacity" magazine if it holds over 10 rds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Gist Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 It will trickle down to all aspects of shooting. Finestein and her thugs won't stop until they have everyone unarmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Except the Criminals !!! Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowhand Bob, 24229 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Not sure of this guys bonafides, but here is his interpretation of the DF bill expected to be the new law of the land. She does seem to promise that certain guns, to be considered later, might be exempted. Thinking that she is probably a nice lady and means well, I am sure she will exempt cowboy rifles! We must remain calm and realize that it is our best interest that they have in mind. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JDglpt8hpyg#! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Frank Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 No joke. Reading the bill that has been proposed by the CA Senator, shows no exemption for tubular fed lever action rifles, other than .22 caliber ones. That tube under the centerfire rifle is considered the "ammunition feeding device" and is considered to be a "high capacity" magazine if it holds over 10 rds. Unless it has changed since the last time that I read it over, the ban is targetted at semi-automatics with high capacity magazines and specifically excluded manually-operated guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowhand Bob, 24229 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 JEEZE guys read the link above UNLESS you have already read it and want to interpret it based on actual knowledge! Fixed tube guns are included if I understand this right. The really scary part is the weapons classification and registration part of her bill. Read it and either agree and or disagree based on what you know and not what you heard someone else say. I want to know if this yahoo is wright or wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuteTheMall Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Actually, knitting needles could be sharpened enough to make them a dangerous weapon in the wrong hands (not granny's of course), but I don't think you could do a whole lotta harm with most crochet hooks.... :wacko:/> :wacko:/> You'll put an eye out with that thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuteTheMall Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 They could continue attacking our places to shoot, due to noise & pollution & safety issues, with zoning regulations, OSHA, EPA, maybe even find some endangered maggots that suffer from gunshot noise. Fewer ranges, fewer shooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Sgt. Jake McCandless #3368 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 JEEZE guys read the link above UNLESS you have already read it and want to interpret it based on actual knowledge! Fixed tube guns are included if I understand this right. The really scary part is the weapons classification and registration part of her bill. Read it and either agree and or disagree based on what you know and not what you heard someone else say. I want to know if this yahoo is wright or wrong? BobIn the last, Billy Bubber ban,language was much the same and believe me it did get misinterpreted and did affect the production and purchases of center fire pistol caliber lever action rifles. It took the regulating Morons awhile to pull one body part out of another, I for see the same if we in the future end up with a Obummer ban. Call,write and e mail all of your representatives if you haven't already. Adios Sgt.Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Buffalo Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Not sure of this guys bonafides, but here is his interpretation of the DF bill expected to be the new law of the land. She does seem to promise that certain guns, to be considered later, might be exempted. Thinking that she is probably a nice lady and means well, I am sure she will exempt cowboy rifles! We must remain calm and realize that it is our best interest that they have in mind. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JDglpt8hpyg#! If feinstine gets her way she would totally disarm the nation. That is her true objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Yep. The TSA banned them on aircraft after they caught a granny knitting an Afgan. :unsure:/> Well, at least she wasn't knitting an Iraqi! I'm thinking of taking up knitting. My daughter wants a new stove in her house, and I thought if I bought enough steel wool, I could knit her a stove! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Whiskers Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 As long as there are at least two of us, I'll keep on shooting - one shooter, one TO/RO/counter and we're good to go. :lol:/> Hey...we almost did that at one saturday shoot.Weather was iffy and only 5 of us showed up.Made for a long day.1 loading,1 unloading,1 shooting and 1 timing.5th guy was a counter til the loader came up to shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madd Mike #8595 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Actually, knitting needles could be sharpened enough to make them a dangerous weapon in the wrong hands (not granny's of course), but I don't think you could do a whole lotta harm with most crochet hooks.... :wacko:/> :wacko:/> but on my last flight over thanksgiving I saw a woman on the plane kniting yikes I was scared out of my wits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekest Crowe Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 The ban includes barrels shorter than 30 inches, or somesuch random barrel length restriction. That would ban all coach guns and 90% of the '97 shotguns I know of. The 30" barrel ban would also include most if not all of the 1894, 1866, 1873, and other lever guns. We would all require new lever guns and shotguns, or pay the proposed $200 per gun in taxes. As is, this proposed ban could end Cowboy Action Shooting and Wild Bunch Shooting for a majority of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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