Rye Miles #13621 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) Is this a new weather term? Pretty bad whatever they call it. Everyone okay out there?? https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/la-storm-watch-flash-flood-warnings-for-beverly-hills-elsewhere-as-latest-atmospheric-river-soaks-region/ar-BB1ixAJN Edited February 19 by Rye Miles #13621 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Shapiro Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Not a new term. I do not know what the source of it is, or when. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Used to be a Pineapple Express. And 'heavy rain' isn't very catchy.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Sounds like another term that they're using since "Global Warming" was proved to be so much BS. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowderRiverCowboy Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Is It anything like Shite River ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 I’ve heard of Shite Creek. Has it become a river now? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 24 minutes ago, PowderRiverCowboy said: Is It anything like Shite River ? Yes 14 minutes ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: I’ve heard of Shite Creek. Has it become a river now? Yes 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 https://pubs.usgs.gov/publication/70201113 Coined by some guys at MIT Abstract "Since the term “atmospheric river” (AR) first appeared in modern scientific literature in the early 1990s, it has generated debate about the meaning of the concept. A common popular definition is something along the lines of a “river in the sky,” albeit as a river of water vapor rather than of liquid. This general concept has come into regular use in the western United States and in some other regions affected by ARs, partly due to its use by media, and due to the intuitive nature of the concept. However, over the last 20 years there have been varying perspectives on the term in the technical community. These perspectives range roughly from considering it duplicative of preexisting concepts, such as the warm conveyor belt (WCB), to arguments that the analogy to terrestrial rivers is inappropriate, to being a primary topic of focused research, applications, and usage by water managers.". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Gee, I guess Jet Stream isn’t dramatic enough. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 6 minutes ago, Pat Riot said: Gee, I guess Jet Stream isn’t dramatic enough. And describes something completely different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, Subdeacon Joe said: And describes something completely different. Yes, I know. But without the Jet Stream it would be hard to have a newfangled weather phenomena called an “atmospheric river”. Stupid name. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 53 minutes ago, Pat Riot said: Yes, I know. But without the Jet Stream it would be hard to have a newfangled weather phenomena called an “atmospheric river”. Stupid name. Not if you look at what it was coined to describe. As it seems to be being overused now, I agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted February 20 Author Share Posted February 20 Looks like an old fashioned flood to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Bomb cyclones sound fun! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 I suppose the jet stream could be carrying dry air but if it’s carrying exceptionally moist air, that would be one of the rivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Tremendous amount of damage here. When we were coming back from Mardi Gras, the Sacramento airport was entirely closed down and all flights cancelled. This happened again yesterday, again due to high winds. We had a tornado warning for the I5 area here. The photos below are indicative of the amount of damage here. We don't get the wide spread mudslides they get in SoCal. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Global Climate Change is FACT. Get use to it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 9 minutes ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Global Climate Change is FACT. Get use to it. Has been for millions of years. When people say that they don't believe in climate change what they really mean is that they don't believe that the Lysenkoist religion of anthropomorphic climate change that can be remedied through taxation, wealth redistribution, and lowering the western standard of living down to the level of Darfur is correct. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 48 minutes ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Global Climate Change is FACT. Get use to it. 31 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Has been for millions of years. When people say that they don't believe in climate change what they really mean is that they don't believe that the Lysenkoist religion of anthropomorphic climate change that can be remedied through taxation, wealth redistribution, and lowering the western standard of living down to the level of Darfur is correct. In simpler terms, (in deference to Alpo), the climate is, and always has been changing. MANKIND has NOTHING to do with it. Nothing we can do short of blowing every nuke we have to kick up enough dust to clog up the atmosphere is going affect it. If we COULD change the climate, there'd be no more deserts, blizzards, tornados, hurricanes, or the like. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 YEPPER!! PLUS ONE for the Subdeacon!! Global Climate Change is going to continue regardless of what we do. If ALL the activists weren't completely full of krap, they would just be piles of empty clothing. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted February 20 Author Share Posted February 20 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: YEPPER!! PLUS ONE for the Subdeacon!! Global Climate Change is going to continue regardless of what we do. If ALL the activists weren't completely full of krap, they would just be piles of empty clothing. It’ll continue regardless of us! Check out the weather scientists that don’t believe we have anything to do with it! How did the earth warm up and freeze ions before man was here? Did the Great Lakes form because of man? Quit listening to the lefty loonies and at least give the other side a listen for God’s sakes!! Edited February 20 by Rye Miles #13621 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted February 20 Author Share Posted February 20 2 hours ago, bgavin said: Tremendous amount of damage here. When we were coming back from Mardi Gras, the Sacramento airport was entirely closed down and all flights cancelled. This happened again yesterday, again due to high winds. We had a tornado warning for the I5 area here. The photos below are indicative of the amount of damage here. We don't get the wide spread mudslides they get in SoCal. Hope you get straightened out quickly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guns Goforth Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) Had a pine tree fall and just slapped my house, near miss. Windy, Wet, Muddy mess. Edited February 20 by Guns Goforth minor edit 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted February 20 Author Share Posted February 20 18 minutes ago, Guns Goforth said: Had a pine tree fall and just slapped my house, near miss. Windy, Wet, Muddy mess. Hope you’re okay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guns Goforth Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 yes, had to fix fence was about 16" at the butt. Praying God brings less wind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 6 hours ago, Eyesa Horg said: Bomb cyclones sound fun! That’s the term I was trying to remember. Another “look at me” stupid weather reporter term. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 I am trying to remember…I think the only plague that hasn’t hit California in recent history is locusts. I may be wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 2 hours ago, Pat Riot said: I am trying to remember…I think the only plague that hasn’t hit California in recent history is locusts. I may be wrong. It's called "The California Legislature." 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Other than a whole lot of delayed luggage coming back from Mardi Gras, we had zero impact this time around. Next door lost seven sections of fence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jailhouse Jim, SASS #13104 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 In Orygon Territory they call it a Hydrological Event when the atmospheric river melts the snow because it's a warm rain. I guess they are trying to sound smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 based on what ive seen on the news sure is causing a lot of destruction , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 As I understand it from the geologic history, the Earth has been in a short term cold trend, and is now returning to its long term status of higher temps and green house gasses. Like it had for hundreds of millions of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Apparently there’s a lot of heavy metal down there that’s busy half lifing away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 https://abc7news.com/bay-area-storm-flash-flood-moderate-risk-watch-high-wind-advisory/14449367/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Rustler, SASS #26680 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 On 2/20/2024 at 11:00 AM, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said: In simpler terms, (in deference to Alpo), the climate is, and always has been changing. MANKIND has NOTHING to do with it. Yep, it always has changed and it always will, but every time it changes it does it for a reason. Just a few short hundred years ago, which is less than the blink of an eye in the Earth's time scale, we started the Industrial Revolution which meant we were burning things and sending stuff up into the sky. But that's not all it meant. We also had other scientific and medical advances so we were living better lives, dying less from disease, and living longer. In that little historical blink of an eye we went from half a billion to eight billion so it wasn't just emissions, it's also resource consumption and waste generation. Weird things we're seeing now aren't only regular weather or climate changes, they're also the Earth just now starting to try and correct for changes directly attributable to us, and it's gonna keep getting worse as long as we stay stupid enough to not change anything we're doing. Don't worry, the Earth will be fine, but that doesn't mean we will. We might kill ourselves off by our own stubbornness just because we think we have to disagree with everything the other side says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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