Subdeacon Joe Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 It was despicable. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 My dad was in high school here in Tacoma at the time and had several friends and classmates interned. He used to point out that being of German descent was no problem, because they couldn't tell that by looking at you. Interestingly, not only were Japanese and Japanese-Americans in Hawaii not interned, neither were many of those who lived away from the 'coast'. I know of one family from Moses Lake, Wa, in central/eastern Washington who were not interned. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantry Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 And yet they still choose to volunteer to serve a country that treated them horribly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/442nd_Infantry_Regiment_(United_States) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese-American_service_in_World_War_II 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Chris Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 My Grandmother, Mom, aunts & uncles were all incarcerated. My Grandfather, who was Filipino, had already passed, but my paternal great uncle was the only family member left on the outside. They lost their farm, he was alone, so he enlisted & was killed in action over on the Philippines. I remember the horrific stories my uncles told as they were very bitter about the whole situation. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowderRiverCowboy Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 47 minutes ago, Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 said: Interestingly, not only were Japanese and Japanese-Americans in Hawaii not interned, neither were many of those who lived away from the 'coast'. I know of one family from Moses Lake, Wa, in central/eastern Washington who were not interned. They weren't because One reason was that Honolulu Chief of Police Jack Burns refused to carry out any plan to intern Japanese-American citizens. He was later elected to be Governor of Hawai’i with overwhelming Japanese-American voter support. In other words DO NOT COMPLY . They did however have sever camps on Hawaii . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 A completely unreasonable/illegal document 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 6 minutes ago, Canton Chris said: My Grandmother, Mom, aunts & uncles were all incarcerated. My Grandfather, who was Filipino, had already passed, but my paternal great uncle was the only family member left on the outside. They lost their farm, he was alone, so he enlisted & was killed in action over on the Philippines. I remember the horrific stories my uncles told as they were very bitter about the whole situation. There were many stories arising out of the situation, some very bad, some good. A great many of the Japanese Americans hereabouts were truck farmers in the Puyallup Valley. In many cases, their neighbors worked their farms, paid their property taxes, and thus preserved their family farmland. In many other cases, people bought their land at tax sales; in effect stealing the land the internees couldn't pay taxes on because imprisoned. As a kid, I remember this especially striking me-- the government interns you for no crime, but no provision is made for pausing tax liability, so you lose not only your freedom, but your property. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 It is easy to find reports of limited internment, etc., on the web but finding documentation supporting those statements is difficult. Close to 13300 German and Italian born citizens that were members of the German-American Bund and Facist Leauge of North America that lived along coastal areas were detained, interned or expelled. All German and Italians who had 1 or more parents living in the US were required to register, surrender their cameras, short-wave radio receiving sets, and radio transmitters and had to report travel outside of a specific area. Travel restriction were lifted in late 1942. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I worked with 3 men of Japanese descent when I worked at Hughes Aircraft. All 3 were interred as children. All 3 loved this country and were very loyal. All 3 had Secret Clearances with EBI’s on several programs. An EBI is an Extensive Background Investigation. It’s like a program related Top Secret, but it’s not a Top Secret clearance. Only one spoke of his experience when his family was interred. It broke his parents hearts but they said they understood why it was done. I have often wondered how things would go if we went to war with China. I doubt history would be repeated, but with today’s politicians and how two-faced they are I wouldn’t be surprised if they did try to inter Americans of Chinese descent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP90-00552R000202030026-8.pdf https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/wwii-home-front-enemies.htm https://www.amazon.com/Orchids-War-Untold-Japanese-before/dp/1940598885 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) 16 hours ago, Pat Riot said: I worked with 3 men of Japanese descent when I worked at Hughes Aircraft. All 3 were interred as children. All 3 loved this country and were very loyal. All 3 had Secret Clearances with EBI’s on several programs. An EBI is an Extensive Background Investigation. It’s like a program related Top Secret, but it’s not a Top Secret clearance. Only one spoke of his experience when his family was interred. It broke his parents hearts but they said they understood why it was done. I have often wondered how things would go if we went to war with China. I doubt history would be repeated, but with today’s politicians and how two-faced they are I wouldn’t be surprised if they did try to inter Americans of Chinese descent. Interned! Interred is usually six feet under. Sorry, I do usually ignore errors. Edited February 20 by Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish ike, SASS #43615 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: Sorry, I do usually ignore errors. What does it mean if someone is interned? Meaning of interned in English to put someone in prison for political or military reasons, especially during a war: Many foreigners were interned for the duration of the war. SMART Vocabulary: related words and phrases. Putting people in prison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) The crews from the “30 seconds over Tokyo”* that landed in Russia were interned. Technically, the Japanese troops in Mongolia who were taken prisoner by the Russians were interned and not captured as POWs because the war was over. Didn’t matter, they went to the same labor camps. ——— *Doolittle Raid — had a brain fart and couldn’t remember the name. Edited February 20 by Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 4 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: Interned! Interred is usually six feet under. Sorry, I do usually ignore errors. 3 hours ago, irish ike, SASS #43615 said: What does it mean if someone is interned? Meaning of interned in English to put someone in prison for political or military reasons, especially during a war: Many foreigners were interned for the duration of the war. SMART Vocabulary: related words and phrases. Putting people in prison. 3 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: The crews from the “30 seconds over Tokyo”* that landed in Russia were interned. Technically, the Japanese troops in Mongolia who were taken prisoner by the Russians were interned and not captured as POWs because the war was over. Didn’t matter, they went to the same labor camps. ——— *Doolittle Raid — had a brain fart and couldn’t remember the name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 https://www.naa.gov.au/explore-collection/immigration-and-citizenship/wartime-internment-camps-australia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jack Black Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 War as they say is hell. Just be thankful they were not Jews living in Germany. Time to move on or we will never heal as a country if we keep whining about the past. IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tell Sackett SASS 18436 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 6 hours ago, Texas Jack Black said: War as they say is hell. Just be thankful they were not Jews living in Germany. Time to move on or we will never heal as a country if we keep whining about the past. IMHO Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jack Black Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 16 hours ago, Tell Sackett SASS 18436 said: Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it! Those who dwell on the past never move on. Actually it is those who do not LEARN from the past are doomed to repeat it Best Wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 ive always felt [without having been there at the time] that was a perfect example of mass hysteria or mob mentality stopping just short of lynchings , totally uncalled for and probably ilegal as pointed out above yet in wartime a lot of dumb things happen , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 The author of this book is an English professor in my hometown, and his daughter was a classmate of mine. His parents were interned; they pulled him out of the camps and put him in the army because he was a physician! My classmate is now a world famous artist, and I helped her track down her grandfather's military history. He was a complete badass. https://www.amazon.com/Looking-After-Minidoka-American-Memoir/dp/0253011027/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2DFFE5QKSTTEY&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9._x8U1-yoq3dvYkHfJSvcYKknwVmy83UbYQ0GtHxYbTE.kvVoexClbEVtl7SFHnx6PgzLNrhhvNtkxKHQ42GLapU&dib_tag=se&keywords=looking+after+minidoka&qid=1708632513&sprefix=looking+after+minidoka%2Caps%2C128&sr=8-1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted February 22 Author Share Posted February 22 On 2/20/2024 at 1:51 PM, Texas Jack Black said: Time to move on or we will never heal as a country if we keep whining about the past. IMHO Some of the people who were in those camps are still with us. Those who lost their farms, businesses, homes, jobs because of EO9066 had children who would have taken over and increased those assets who were cheated out of them. It's not on the same scale as Treblinka, Birkenau, or Sobibor we must keep the memory of them alive to prevent repetition of them. Remembering the past doesn't mean that you are static, frozen in time. 23 hours ago, Texas Jack Black said: Those who dwell on the past never move on. You just condemned those who participate in CAS, or those who keep the old warbirds flying. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jack Black Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Some of the people who were in those camps are still with us. Those who lost their farms, businesses, homes, jobs because of EO9066 had children who would have taken over and increased those assets who were cheated out of them. It's not on the same scale as Treblinka, Birkenau, or Sobibor we must keep the memory of them alive to prevent repetition of them. Remembering the past doesn't mean that you are static, frozen in time. You just condemned those who participate in CAS, or those who keep the old warbirds flying. No I said Dwell. Nothing to do with those who ADMIRE the past .And you know that. Best Wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 If we had full blown war with Islam, you don't think this could happen again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 ya , i suspect it might , but based on everything that has crossed our boarders in the last three years i fully expect things to happen all over the country soon , i believe the age of our freedoms is about to be breeched , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 At least challenged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 18 hours ago, Texas Jack Black said: No I said Dwell. Nothing to do with those who ADMIRE the past .And you know that. Best Wishes I guess that master's degree in history I just finished means I can't move on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jack Black Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Cyrus Cassidy #45437 said: I guess that master's degree in history I just finished means I can't move on? Move on does not mean you can not remember past events, To dwell on the past can be destructive to your future instilling fear and self pity always doubting and fearful of new adventures. Your Masters degree should have nothing to do with dwelling on the past and not being able to move on. Or maybe not in your case. Best Wishes Best Wishes Edited February 23 by Texas Jack Black Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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