Trigger Mike Posted July 10, 2016 Posted July 10, 2016 one place said an SKS. can't find it listed elsewhere.
Irish Tom Posted July 10, 2016 Posted July 10, 2016 I think some news outlets are now saying it was an AK 74. Irish Tom
St. Louis Suomi SASS #31905 Posted July 10, 2016 Posted July 10, 2016 According to the press it could be reported as a Ma Deuce with 100,000 rounds of .50 cal ammo on a belt. GRRR STL Suomi
Subdeacon Joe Posted July 10, 2016 Posted July 10, 2016 According to the press it could be reported as a Ma Deuce with 100,000 rounds of .50 cal ammo on a belt. GRRR STL Suomi That's an AR-15.
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted July 10, 2016 Posted July 10, 2016 One thing I don't understand, well there a lot of things I don't understand about this episode. But it was reported that the police were looking for all of t he cartridge cases that were spent and that THEY WERE VERY IMPORTANT. Only reason I can see that they would be important was to determine if more than one weapon was used and perhaps more shooters. And also to match the cartridges to the rifle. What am I missing?
Sedalia Dave Posted July 10, 2016 Posted July 10, 2016 One thing I don't understand, well there a lot of things I don't understand about this episode. But it was reported that the police were looking for all of t he cartridge cases that were spent and that THEY WERE VERY IMPORTANT. Only reason I can see that they would be important was to determine if more than one weapon was used and perhaps more shooters. And also to match the cartridges to the rifle. What am I missing? Apparently the shooter fired from more than 1 vantage point. The fact that all the casings came from the same rifle eliminated the earlier belief that there was more than one shooter.
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted July 10, 2016 Posted July 10, 2016 Apparently the shooter fired from more than 1 vantage point. The fact that all the casings came from the same rifle eliminated the earlier belief that there was more than one shooter. Ah Ha. That would explain the importance of finding the cartridges. Thanks.
St. Louis Suomi SASS #31905 Posted July 10, 2016 Posted July 10, 2016 That's an AR-15. Ma Deuce is a Browning 50 Cal Machine gun (we used them on our M60 Tanks - I think you are referring to a M4 - :-) I was attempting to make a hyperbole - sorry you missed it. - Look up images for Ma Deuce STL Suomi
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted July 10, 2016 Posted July 10, 2016 Apparently the shooter fired from more than 1 vantage point. The fact that all the casings came from the same rifle eliminated the earlier belief that there was more than one shooter. Yeah, I suppose the idea of two shooters and only one weapon is absurd.
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted July 10, 2016 Posted July 10, 2016 If people think that they are being profiled and this is there answer . The just set them selves up for really being profiled now. My prayers go out to all the Men and Women in blue.
Capt. James H. Callahan Posted July 10, 2016 Posted July 10, 2016 Details seem pretty vague. Most of what I've seen was an SKS. I've also seen the Saiga AK type (no caliber listed). JHC
Subdeacon Joe Posted July 10, 2016 Posted July 10, 2016 That's an AR-15. Ma Deuce is a Browning 50 Cal Machine gun (we used them on our M60 Tanks - I think you are referring to a M4 - :-) I was attempting to make a hyperbole - sorry you missed it. - Look up images for Ma Deuce STL Suomi No, I caught it. But any non-handgun firearm that isn't lever- or bolt- action is an AR-15 to the press.
Capt. James H. Callahan Posted July 10, 2016 Posted July 10, 2016 No, I caught it. But any non-handgun firearm that isn't lever- or bolt- action is an AR-15 to the press. Pretty much.
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 One thing I don't understand, well there a lot of things I don't understand about this episode. But it was reported that the police were looking for all of t he cartridge cases that were spent and that THEY WERE VERY IMPORTANT. Only reason I can see that they would be important was to determine if more than one weapon was used and perhaps more shooters. And also to match the cartridges to the rifle. What am I missing? They also might decide to check those cases for fingerprints. If they have evidence of a conspiracy group and have certain suspects, fingerprints could help nab any associates, even though they may not have been an 'active' shooter. ..........Widder
Shorty Jack Hammer Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 This should clear up everything..... Not...... Morons on Fox News
Yellowhouse Sam # 25171 Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 This should clear up everything..... Not...... Morons on Fox News Holy Smokes! They outdid MSNBC!
Jess Money Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 This is an e-mail I just received from our local firearms guru. The photo's show damage done by bomb to shooter and the weapon he used to assinate the LEO's. I just received a photo of the rifle used in the Dallas Police shooting. CBS News said it was an SKS. It is not. It is a Saiga 5.45x39 AK-74 variant. The news media does not know one rifle from another. Here is a photo of the rifle and the blown up shooter. Doug
Utah Bob #35998 Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 There has been No official statement from DPD as to the weapon used. I'll wait for that.
Subdeacon Joe Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 This should clear up everything..... Not...... Morons on Fox News Just lost any respect I had for Fox. First the idjit talking about how a bullet button makes a rifle go full auto, now this expert stringing together words she knows about guns to create nonsense and confusion.
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 I lost my respect for Fox about six months ago. They are just as bad as the rest.
Yellowhouse Sam # 25171 Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 This should clear up everything..... Not...... Morons on Fox News I can't hear worth a flip and really don't know if they identified but was this the national Foxnews broadcast or a local affiliate?
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 That would appear to be the national station. Local affiliates do not carry the banners that appear at the bottom of the screen.
Lost Trail Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 This is disgusting. The lady being interviewed has no clue regarding firearms and the two blondies 'interviewing' her are equally clueless and perpetuate the spreading of falsehoods.
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 The one gal is touted as being a FORENSIC EXPERT. That right there is scary. If she is so ill informed in an interview, what must her work performance look like? And these are opinions that would be used in a court of law.
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 Well... My impression is that they're displaying a level of knowledge commensurate with those who make the laws governing such things...
Yellowhouse Sam # 25171 Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 Wonder if anyone called their hand on such garbage?
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 We probably will never know, Sam.
El Hombre Sin Nombre Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 I lost my respect for Fox about six months ago. They are just as bad as the rest. I lost all respect for Fox news back around 1996 or so.
Utah Bob #35998 Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 Wonder if anyone called their hand on such garbage? I suspect they got more than a few e-mails....besides mine.
Shorty Jack Hammer Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 Isn't that ridiculous? I couldn't believed it when a friend of mine posted that to Facebook. I'm not a fan of Fox, CNN, MSNBC or any of those so called "news" channels.
Utah Bob #35998 Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 You don't have to know anything other than TECHNIQUES adjective: forensic 1. of, relating to, or denoting the application of scientific methods and techniques to the investigation of crime. "forensic evidence" of or relating to courts of law. noun plural noun: forensics 1. scientific tests or techniques used in connection with the detection of crime.
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