Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 That underneath screw on the receiver! Cleaned up my guns real good to shoot the BP side match, and then wiped it out after that, but on the seventh and eight stage that I shot, I had rounds follow each other onto the carrier, first one took 20 sec and the second time only ten.. Fortunately for me Lawman reminded me to check that screw, sure enough I wasn't the only loose screw! pb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Dan Troop 70448 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 That underneath screw on the receiver! Cleaned up my guns real good to shoot the BP side match, and then wiped it out after that, but on the seventh and eight stage that I shot, I had rounds follow each other onto the carrier, first one took 20 sec and the second time only ten.. Fortunately for me Lawman reminded me to check that screw, sure enough I wasn't the only loose screw! pb I knew that. But did have my double decide to shoot double with only 1 pull of the trigger on a stage. Turned it into a single shot to finish that stage. MT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Canyon Kid #43974 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 We use clear fingernail polish on our Marlin screws, both that screw and lever screw. Will come loose with a screw driver but holds tight while shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 The loading gate screw likes to loosen too. I have a Big 5 Marlin that has to be tightened every other stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 There is one thing I've learned over the past couple years and that is no matter how GOOD a rifle is tuned (any rifle), sometimes the smallest of gremlins can bite ya on the butt. I slicked up two nice Marlins this past year for a couple local shooters and was proud of my work. THEN, I had the agony of being on their posses and watch as they functioned their rifles, pulled the trigger, and ..... CLICK. Both owners were ready to hang me till I proved to them that it was their ammo and not the rifle. And sure nuff, once they learned to reload correctly and SEAT THEIR PRIMERS correctly, they became VERY SATISFIED with their Marlins. Stuff happens! ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fillmore Coffins, SASS #7884 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 The loading gate screw likes to loosen too. I have a Big 5 Marlin that has to be tightened every other stage.Go to the auto parts store and buy some "blue" Loctite. Fillmore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missouri Marshal SASS #50682 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Go to the auto parts store and buy some "blue" Loctite. Fillmore Just don't use the "Red" Loctite if you ever want to remove the screw without a torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mud Marine,SASS#54686 Life Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I purchased my first Marlin, a 336 in .35 Remingon in 1949. Now, I have a .38 Special for a loaner and a .38-55. for sidematches. I have never had a problem but that's because we have hunted at our place since the 1870s and we have learned a few things about Marlin quirks, like springs, firing springs, cleaning, screws and stock problems! :-) My sons have steadily had me send them much of my forearms inventory so, this year, I did my elk and deer hunting with my tried and true, trusty old .35!! :-) Happily, it still shoots to point of aim. Unhappily, my shakiness moves that around a bit! :-) Still, my freezer is full! :-) IMHO, it is hard to beat a Marlin!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dash Caliber Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 You can tell a Marlin owner by the color of his screwdriver:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles B. Gatewood SASS #48517 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I use Loctite 222 Low Strength Purple as it is made for screws up to 1/4". Works great and allows easy disassembly. Fingernail polish would be cheaper though. CBG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geronimo Jim SASS # 21775 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Geronimo Jim Rule Number 3 .............. every screw, every gun, every match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 my routine at the loading table for my Marlin: check the screws, load the rifle, repeat at next stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 I usually check them too, usually don't check that one because it doesn't loosen, I forgot to tighten it, BUT you can bet, from now on I will,, that's three times at two major matches....... I THINK I've lurned my lessun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Jackson Turner Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 What the heck is it about those Peskity Marlins? I have owned a couple, and pretty much, no matter what you do, those blankety screws keep loosening. Get busy with a screwdriver, every other stage, if you own a Marlin. Now, about Ruger Vaquero ejector rod housing screws... :-o!!! Cheers, FJT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventura Slim, SASS #35690 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I have forgotten where I bought it, but Latin Gun turned me on to a screwdriver built into a shell case so you can keep it on your pistol loops on the shotgun belt. Its amazing to check the screws on a marlin and see that a bunch are loose. I suppose I ought to tighten the rugers too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Its obvious to me that some of you don't know the PROPER SEQUENCE to use when tightening those screws. There is a good, correct sequence that will prevent some of those screws from coming loose. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 I carry a screwdriver with at least a 3" shaft, shorter and you cant use it on a jam... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Go to the auto parts store and buy some "blue" Loctite. Fillmore YUP! #242 and is medium strength. LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Its obvious to me that some of you don't know the PROPER SEQUENCE to use when tightening those screws. There is a good, correct sequence that will prevent some of those screws from coming loose. ..........Widder Widder, PLEASE tell us. THX, LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Lumpy, Once the 1894 has been taken apart a couple times, there is ONE screw that tends to loosen thru the process of working the lever. AND that screw is the carrier pivot screw. Unless ya want to use alot of locktite, the best thing to do is check this screw between every stage. But, here is a good sequence to tighten all the other screw: Assuming you are putting the rifle back together, insert the carrier pivot screw first....Don't tighten it. THEN, with the floor plate in place, insert the BOTTOM screw but DO NOT tighten. Then, put the LEFT side plate screw in but DO NOT tighten. Then, put the hammer in and the hammer screw but DO NOT tighten. THEN: tap the floor plate forward to insure its in its proper position and then TIGHTEN the bottom floor plate. THEN: tighten the left side plate screw. THEN: tighten the hammer screw THEN: tighten the carrier pivot screw. The remaining screws can be tightened when you finish putting the rifle together like the lever screw and stock screw. Its also a good idea to check the small forearm endcap screws and the mag tube screw. I've taken a couple my Marlin apart dozens of times and have used this method to reassemble them with 'secure' results. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Thank you Widder. Believe it or not-That's the same 'pattern' I use. I do use just a small drop of #242 Loctite on all the screws, except the lever pivot screw. Never a loose screw issue and I can remove the screws anytime with no problems. LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Old Man Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I always knew Purdy Boy Peanut Butter Mud Boy had a screw loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Mulo Vaquero, SASS #55942 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 The proper sequence is 1, 8, 7, 3 before every stage! Sorry, could'nt resist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Dobbs Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I thought the 1,8,7,3, sequence was the best way to have a jam and 10 misses? that sequence shows up where I shoot almost every time I shoot lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Damwright Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Widder didn't tell his real secret. He doesn't use loctite. It's a small dab of peanut butter (smooth for easier removal later). He also eats a lot of crackers between stages but that's a whole 'nuther story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 funny thing is, I've never had that one loosen, and that wasn't the issue this time.. I forgot to tighten it after I cleaned et! so the problem was,,,, I cleaned it!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Rick, SASS #49739L Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Lumpy, Once the 1894 has been taken apart a couple times, there is ONE screw that tends to loosen thru the process of working the lever. AND that screw is the carrier pivot screw. Unless ya want to use alot of locktite, the best thing to do is check this screw between every stage. But, here is a good sequence to tighten all the other screw: Assuming you are putting the rifle back together, insert the carrier pivot screw first....Don't tighten it. THEN, with the floor plate in place, insert the BOTTOM screw but DO NOT tighten. Then, put the LEFT side plate screw in but DO NOT tighten. Then, put the hammer in and the hammer screw but DO NOT tighten. THEN: tap the floor plate forward to insure its in its proper position and then TIGHTEN the bottom floor plate. THEN: tighten the left side plate screw. THEN: tighten the hammer screw THEN: tighten the carrier pivot screw. The remaining screws can be tightened when you finish putting the rifle together like the lever screw and stock screw. Its also a good idea to check the small forearm endcap screws and the mag tube screw. I've taken a couple my Marlin apart dozens of times and have used this method to reassemble them with 'secure' results. ..........Widder Part of the loading process for my bride is to check the carrier and lever screws. Always work loose, might fall out by the end of a match if left unchecked. I've have Marlins where an over tightened carrier screw can bind up the works, so snug is the rule. CR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 CR: your point is well taken. I use the word 'snug' probably 99% of the time when talking about the carrier pivot screw. My usage of the word 'Tighten' might have over emphasized what I was trying to say. Thanks for the reminder. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Rick, SASS #49739L Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 CR: your point is well taken. I use the word 'snug' probably 99% of the time when talking about the carrier pivot screw. My usage of the word 'Tighten' might have over emphasized what I was trying to say. Thanks for the reminder. ..........Widder T'wernt meant as no chastisement - just trying to clarify so fewer folks have to find out the hard way like we did! CR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 T'wernt meant as no chastisement - just trying to clarify so fewer folks have to find out the hard way like we did! CR I understand. Nearly everything I read on the Wire is like all of us sitting somewhere have a good lunch and carrying on a good lunch table discussion. Its always good to hear from you and hope you are doing well. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Rick, SASS #49739L Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I understand. Nearly everything I read on the Wire is like all of us sitting somewhere have a good lunch and carrying on a good lunch table discussion. Its always good to hear from you and hope you are doing well. ..........Widder Doing well, except it's colder than a well digger's a**. Spring can't come soon enough. If we had Karl's money we'd be in a warm place like he is "course, if we had his money, then he wouldn't! I'm gonna make a match near you some day and work it into a trip to see my mom in Ashville. You can teach me how to shoot gunfighter! CR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Rick, SASS #49739L Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 What the heck is it about those Peskity Marlins? I have owned a couple, and pretty much, no matter what you do, those blankety screws keep loosening. Get busy with a screwdriver, every other stage, if you own a Marlin. Now, about Ruger Vaquero ejector rod housing screws... :-o!!! Cheers, FJT I was only going to shoot one side match with my wife's Rugers, as I didn't want to clean BP that night before the state match. Ejector housing went flying and the screw was not to be found. Thank God for backup guns - stole a screw from one of mine. CR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rance - SASS # 54090 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Marketing... How come they put the blue Locktight in a Red bottle?? Rance Thinkin' I got enough ta confuse me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Marketing... How come they put the blue Locktight in a Red bottle?? Rance Thinkin' I got enough ta confuse me maybe the owner/inventor is color blind! ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 CR: Yep, if we had my bankers $$$, we could be further South in some warmer weather. Kinda funny you mentioned Karl. He called me about 9:00 this morning and told me he's shivering in cold weather.....53, sunny and no wind. Hey, thats what your good friends do..... Hope you do try GF sometime. Its a hoot. Yes, be sure to let me know when you may be in this area. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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