Marlin Buckhorn,SASS 51727 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Most of us know that that the SKB's and the Browning BSS are the most desirable shotguns for SASS. Are there any other single trigger shotguns that will preform and stand up to the rigors of SASS? Considering a new shotgun, just don't have the coin for the 2 above. Not really looking for double trigger guns just single trigger guns. Marlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pit Bull Tex Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I have two single trigger Baikal MP210s that were done by Johnny Meadows that are like tanks.Work really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patagonia Pete Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Wow ... you're fast ... Anyhow ... like one of these?? http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=368164019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sam, SASS #10915 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I have a Stoeger Supreme with single trigger that I've used for about 3 years with not a hitch. It took a little work to get it the way I wanted but thanks to Maruader's website I was able to do all the work my own self. It has a mechanical trigger that works like a charm. The whole gun cost about what the mechanical-trigger modification costs for an SKB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlin Buckhorn,SASS 51727 Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 Thanks guys! Anybody else have any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe E.S. Corpus SASS #87667 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Academy Sports imports the Yildiiz single trigger double. Doc Fillem posted about having one slicked up for match work. Cimarron has a different Turkish gun that is more expensive. I've not read any Wire reports on it. A couple of folks in my club have single trigger Baikals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubious Don #56333 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Stoeger Supreme's work for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlin Buckhorn,SASS 51727 Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 Saw a Mossberg today, made in Turkey, anyone have any info on them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio Brazos Kid Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Single Trigger Stoeger Supreme. Slicked up and modifications as per Marauders website. Works flawlessly now for 3 years. RBK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace_of_Hearts Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 The Mossberg is well made but has a lock post that sticks out in the way making it difficult to load for cowboy.http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A2KJke67TkpSNm4AouWJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTFyMzBibzV2BHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1nBG9pZAMzMjdmMDFhNzVlYWM5MzhhNGYwMmNjNDJmNDQ2YTJmNwRncG9zAzk4?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3DMossberg%2BSilver%2BReserve%2BSide%2BBy%2BSide%2BDouble%2BBarrel%2BShotgun%2B...%26fr%3Dyfp-t-900%26fr2%3Dpiv-web%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D98&w=640&h=480&imgurl=picturearchive.gunauction.com%2F8448193918%2F11202322%2Flg77081%252004.jpg_thumbnail0.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gunauction.com%2Fbuy%2F11202322%2Fshotguns-for-sale%2Fside-by-side%2Fmossberg-12-gauge-silver-reserve-double-3-in-26-tubes-77081&size=148.2KB&name=%3A11202322+%3Cb%3EMossberg%3C%2Fb%3E%2C+O.+F.+%26+Sons%2C+Inc.+12+Gauge+%3Cb%3ESilver+Reserve+Double+%3C%2Fb%3E...&p=Mossberg+Silver+Reserve+Side+By+Side+Double+Barrel+Shotgun+...&oid=327f01a75eac938a4f02cc42f446a2f7&fr2=piv-web&fr=yfp-t-900&tt=%3A11202322+%3Cb%3EMossberg%3C%2Fb%3E%2C+O.+F.+%26+Sons%2C+Inc.+12+Gauge+%3Cb%3ESilver+Reserve+Double+%3C%2Fb%3E...&b=91∋=160&no=98&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=141mh1hp9&sigb=14o7nvk5u&sigi=12hp7gu1v&.crumb=0F9r0rba/t7&fr=yfp-t-900 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 There are a couple of Stoeger coach guns in the gunshops around here but all single trigger. I've been led to believe that the single trigger guns are prone to have problems. What's the advantage or disadvantage to single trigger vs double? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio Brazos Kid Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 There are a couple of Stoeger coach guns in the gunshops around here but all single trigger. I've been led to believe that the single trigger guns are prone to have problems. What's the advantage or disadvantage to single trigger vs double? I am of the opinion that the problems with the single trigger guns stems from alterations being made to lighten trigger pull, and changing out the hammer springs. The current models are not recoil dependent for barrel switch when fired, and are mechanical. Leave the seer engagement and hammer springs alone, and I doubt you having any problems. RBK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Fill 'Em 67797 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I've used the Yildiz for about three years. So far it's been flawless. I got mine at Academy Sports and sent it to Goatneck Clem. According to him it's not at the level of a Browning or SKB but was well-made nonetheless. I think it would be hard to beat for the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother King, SASS #69031 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 SASS/ Cowboy action shooting is: Lost with the pistol Even with the rifle won with the shotgun Therefore, buy as cheap a shotgun as you can find. 2 trigger guns are more flawless than 1 trigger guns. Look at the Daly 500 on gunbroker.com. it's the same as the SKB but has 2 triggers and usually sells for a bout $500-600. Then send it to your favorite cowboy smithy and pay them what they're worth. Who knows? Maybe you're a contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waimea Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Hey Marlin Winchester 97 has a single trigger. Waimea (who has been called a wisea$$) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe E.S. Corpus SASS #87667 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I recently broke down and bought an SKB so take my comments for what they are worth. I have a single trigger O/U and found it difficult to adapt to a two trigger double for cowboy. I solved that issue by purchasing a 97 for cowboy shooting. There are plenty of top level shooters who use the twin trigger doubles so don't count them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio Brazos Kid Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 After a lifetime of shooting single trigger shotguns, including over 1/2 million targets in Skeet, in the last 20 + years and you want me to believe that the double trigger firearm is the best thing since sliced bread. I ain't buying that silliness. Now or any time soon. RBK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelin kid #51083 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I went from a double trigger to a single trigger Stoeger, the first match I used it, I kept pulling on the trigger guard for the second shot, for about three stages, then I got the hang of it I shoot Black Powder, pretty stout loads, I have had one time where they both went off almost simultaneously, has never done it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rootin Tootin Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Marlin, I shoot a CZ Ringneck and Charles Daly 306 both with single triggers.The Ringnecks had the locking tab cut off by Johnny Meadows and the tubes opened up. The locking tab is still on the Charles Daly. GB sells these guns for 400+ for the Charles Daly to 700+ for the CZ and Johnny Medows is about another 100+. I have two of the Johnny Meadows CZ Ringnecks that you can try the next time we shoot together in October.... Regards.........RT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocent Bystander SASS #24171 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I picked up a Remington Spartan shotgun in a gunbroker auction for $300. Single trigger and chrome lined bores. Recently shot it in a two-day match with BP with no problems. Bystander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocee Dee Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I usually shoot a 97 in matches, but I have a Cimmaron 1881 hammerless single trigger that I like a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailboss (Santa) Dave Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 In my safe I have several double guns and a couple of 1887's But when it comes shooting time it's my Fox single triggered gun that makes it to my gun cart. I Love that gun, the rest I use for back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlin Buckhorn,SASS 51727 Posted October 2, 2013 Author Share Posted October 2, 2013 Waimea, I know about those single trigger 97's also the single trigger 87's. The problem with the 97 is my left arm, the 87, too numerous to mention. I remember when I started there were 97s everywhere. This last weekends' shoot only four 97s on a posse of 20. The rest where double barrels. Rootin Tootin, thanks for the offer. My condolences on the loss of your mother. Interesting about the CZ, I know where one is that is pretty reasonable. Any more thoughts anybody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Dog, SASS #20401 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I picked up a Remington Spartan shotgun in a gunbroker auction for $300. Single trigger and chrome lined bores. Recently shot it in a two-day match with BP with no problems. Bystander The Spartan is a Baikal which Remington imported for a coupla years. Import now is back to EAA. Marlin, the Baikal is hard to beat. Love mine. It has never failed me. Now I wish I had never disabled the ejectors as they worked exceptionally well and saved it for a field gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother King, SASS #69031 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 After a lifetime of shooting single trigger shotguns, including over 1/2 million targets in Skeet, in the last 20 + years and you want me to believe that the double trigger firearm is the best thing since sliced bread. I ain't buying that silliness. Now or any time soon. RBK Wow....and I won a Nat'l title in sporting, but I really don't much care at all what you believe. Go look in the mirror and see how ridiculous you look trying to say that you've never had an inertia trigger malfunction, double fire, failure to fire, sticky sear, and I could go on and on. Infact, my Gamba (18k) my Abbiattico & Salvinelli ($28k), SO and Perazzi (release) have ALL had various trigger issues even with replaceable trigger sets. I'd go one further and say that there is no more common problem with a shotgun on a skeet, sporting or trap field than the trigger. Except that in all those sports a shooter can call a malfunction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio Brazos Kid Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Wow....and I won a Nat'l title in sporting, but I really don't much care at all what you believe. Go look in the mirror and see how ridiculous you look trying to say that you've never had an inertia trigger malfunction, double fire, failure to fire, sticky sear, and I could go on and on. Infact, my Gamba (18k) my Abbiattico & Salvinelli ($28k), SO and Perazzi (release) have ALL had various trigger issues even with replaceable trigger sets. I'd go one further and say that there is no more common problem with a shotgun on a skeet, sporting or trap field than the trigger. Except that in all those sports a shooter can call a malfunction. As usual, lets compare apples to oranges. There's been many a week that I shot 1000 targets in that week, although normally it was about 500 targets. There were several years that I shot in the area of 25,000 targets per year, and most of those years, there were no problems with the trigger mechanism's. Biggest problem was worn out firing pins and hammer springs. Inertia trigger problems, very few and far between, if the guns were serviced as required once a year. Many of those years, after shooting 25,000 targets, I never had a failure of ANY kind with my guns. Now, lets look at the average CAS shooter. Let's think big. Lets say he shoots a match every weekend. Lets say he shoots both days. That's approx. 50 shells per weekend. 2 boxes x 52 weeks, equals 104 boxes times 25 equal 2600 shells. Hardly a comparison, and very, very few CAS shooters will even come close to that number of shells consumed. You will have to blow that smoke some other direction, because it makes no sense when you look at it closely. Properly serviced and maintained shotgun trigger systems actually give great service to the majority of shooters who use them. Of course not 100%, but most trigger problems with SXS shotguns, (or O/U shotguns), comes from inept kitchen table gunsmithing, and that's a fact. Witnessed that situation way too many times. However, everyone has the right to their opinion. You have yours, and I have mine. Cheers....RBK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waimea Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Waimea, I know about those single trigger 97's also the single trigger 87's. The problem with the 97 is my left arm, the 87, too numerous to mention. I remember when I started there were 97s everywhere. This last weekends' shoot only four 97s on a posse of 20. The rest where double barrels. Rootin Tootin, thanks for the offer. My condolences on the loss of your mother. Interesting about the CZ, I know where one is that is pretty reasonable. Any more thoughts anybody? WOW! That's a enough doubles to shake a dang stick at. I started out on a 97 and I'm guessin I'll die usin one. Just bought 2 last week and have a third one coming from our very own Outlaw Gambler. If you have arm issues a 97 is probably a bad idea. I had a broke finger when I first started CAS and the 97 didn't do me any favors then. Best of luck finding your perfect double gun. Waimea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Silverado, SASS # 67543 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I started SASS with a double trigger Baikal. They are rugged and have functioned flawlessly for me. That said, I now shoot an SKB 100 single trigger that Dirt Merchant did the 'smith work. It is like going from Chevy to a Mercedes, I kid you not. I'm not drawing down on anybody else's comments..... Last month I shot with Nuttin Graceful's posse. When it came time for me to shoot the buffaloes, my fingers pulled the triggers on the shotgun, but something was different. When I went to the unloading table one the guys pointed out that I had picked up his Baikal (double trigger) instead of my SKB. Happy trails to y'all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painted Filly Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Love my 2 baikals. Great price! Even after Johnny's work. Painted Filly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayrock, SASS #64093 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I will second the CZ Ringneck. Started out with a DeHaan S-2. It got stolen and the CZ is basically the same gun. I liked it enough I bought it twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Scratch Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I have a single trigger stoger broke 2 firing pins and the transfer bar now it's my 3rd string backup now my main match double is an old skool charles daly slicked up by roughneck Rod it is a double trigger (reversed) YES I LOVE THIS GUN!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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