Abe E.S. Corpus SASS #87667

The problem with threads like this one is that they “mine” for negative information and give the reader, especially those who have never been to a match, a distorted impression. Balance the anecdotal accounts with the fact. This sport has been around since the 1980s. The membership numbers are up to 130,000 or so. Cowboy action shooting has a very good safety record, even though we use real guns with real ammunition and we have shooters of all ages and levels of experience. I’ve been shooting for twelve years. I’ve never been at a match where anyone has been shot. I’ve rarely witnessed serious safety infractions (such as sweeping another person with a loaded firearm) and those situations were handled promptly and appropriately.

As Chancy Shot mentioned, a Gunfighter in that situation MUST stage the uncocked revolver(s). Shooters in other categories have the option to reholster the uncocked revolver.

That’s a good question. It may be that you earned a penalty for failing to adhere to the requirements of your category but it was not assessed because of the prior procedural penalty on the same stage. If that is the correct analysis the shooter would get a SDQ for an “out of category” action on a later stage.

Dude, a single action revolver holster will usually serve double duty as a Wild Bunch holster. It need only cover the slide forward of the ejection port to be legal. If you don’t have magazine pouches, the Wild Bunch rules allow ALL shooters to stage magazines and ammunition. They need not be carried on the shooter’s body. I just saved you some money. Welcome to Wild Bunch!

If you are referring to the Lee Factory Crimp Die (TM), it has a carbide ring in the mouth of the die that would complicate that process.

My only 1911 is a Series 70 Gold Cup that I purchased used in the mid 80s. I don’t remove the bushing from the barrel when I field strip the pistol, hoping that will lessen the stress on the collet “fingers”. Perhaps I am kidding myself. The barrel seems to have a slightly different contour or diameter where the bushing sits when in battery. Will a solid bushing just drop in, or will it require fitting?

I just started loading C45S myself. Most of what I had read recommended a .45 Colt sizing die and .45 ACP dies for the rest. I have a Hornady LNL-AP press; I already had a .45 Colt shellplate and a set of standard Hornady New Dimension dies in .45 Colt. I’ve had good results with Hornady dies generally. I like to use a Lee Auto Drum powder measure for Frontier Cartridge loading. I use APP powder which can cause steel parts to rust and Hornady steel parts tend to rust if you look at them crosswise. The Lee measure and powder through expander die have fewer steel parts than the Hornady measure. I bought a Lee 4 die set in .45 ACP and set up the measure on the #2 Lee die. I had problems with neck tension using the Lee dies, then problems with bullet seating. I was somewhat concerned whether the ACP dies would provide an adequate crimp but I do have an older RCBS .45 ACP #3 die with a roll crimp that I could use, but first I had to get the neck tension right. I decided to see if my .45 Colt #2 and #3 dies would adjust down far enough to expand, seat and crimp the short cases. Somewhat to my surprise, they did. I did keep the Lee powder die in Station 3 with the Lee Auto Drum, but the neck expansion is done in Station 2. It’s what worked for me. I posted a video reporting my setup.

Not a crimp but a dent. If it chambered I would shoot it in a revolver not in a rifle lest it hang up.

If you want a shotgun for Wild Bunch, consider a Model 12. Many WB shooters consider it a better gun. More were made than ‘97s, too. No reproductions available.

Very good points, as always. My finalists were the LNL-AP and the 650. The Hornady press was less expensive even if you don’t factor in the 500 free jacketed bullets that Hornady gave as a rebate (I think those bullets are still in shrink wrap after 11 years). Price was not the deciding factor but it was a consideration. After some period of time I added a casefeeder and I realized that the total cost of a press and casefeeder was very, very close between Dillon and Hornady.

This was the deciding factor for my choice as well. Any time Driftwood posts something that agrees with my opinion I feel smart!

I know it irks some folks when a conversation about Brand X drifts into a discussion about the merits of Brand Y, but this one is pretty cordial. I don’t own a Dillon but I have many friends who do. I think they are great. If I had to replace all of my equipment today with products now available I would take a hard look at a Dillon 750. It may be difficult for the cowboy shooter who is new to handloading to predict their future needs: How many cartridges? Pistol only, or rifle cartridges down the line? What volume of ammo is needed per month? Everyone considers to cost of the press, dies and other essential parts and accessories but they may overlook the package price of accessories they might add later. The cost to change the press over to additional cartridges can vary widely between brands and even models. Are there considerations other than price? Absolutely so do your homework in order to make an informed decision. One war story: We have some new shooters, many of whom are getting into “rolling their own”. Well, they probably all are but some don’t know it yet. Anyhow, there’s a fellow about 30 minutes away who buys and resells reloading equipment and components, usually at pretty fair prices. He posted a Square Deal B set up for .38/.357 and .40 S&W, with some accessories and a pound of pistol powder. It did not sell right away and he dropped the price to $325. I told all of the new shooters about it and none of them bit, and someone else got a deal.

Many shooters confuse the rules governing the pistols and governing long guns. I had a very experienced shooter ask whether discarding a (cleared) rifle with the action closed, hammer cocked, was a penalty for “a cocked gun leaving the shooter’s hand”.

Well done indeed.

If true, it’s a shame.

Congratulations to you and Knot, “Sis”!

Congratulations to (let me point out) Upstate South Carolina’s very own Scarlett Darlin!! Well done indeed. Of course, she does have the ability to cherry pick the best “no miss” bullets.

Kidding aside, this happened to Fox Creek Stitcher yesterday, in the midst of the rifle string. She restaged the rifle in a safe condition, cleared the spent case, then picked up the rifle and completed the sequence. Well done.

I acquired a .44-40 rifle about a year ago and worked up a load with APP starting with the charge recommended on their website. The velocity was less consistent than I wanted. Captain George Baylor recommended a reduced charge with caulk backer rod as a filler. I use a good bit less powder but the ammo is more consistent and the velocity difference is surprisingly small. One thing about APP, it makes plenty of smoke!

The video was excellent, of course, but your disclaimer at the bottom of your post is hilarious.

Seems like Ma Kettle used to say that about Pa. One of my favorite old timey sayings.

After I bought my Piettas (which Buds has yet to ship) my next step was to order a pair of “no safety” Uberti base pins. VTI was out and I got them from Taylor’s. At a lower price. “My mama told me, ‘you gotta shop around’”.

Both Cimarron and Taylor’s have been importing and distributing some Pietta revolvers for a number of years. Pretty sure that pre-dates the Cattleman 2.

Given the criticism of the Uberti Cattleman 2 passive safety (whether justified or not), I would think there is little chance that Pietta would introduce a similar system. Not that I am privy to their plans.

Similar to a revolver that a Canadian shooter has, essentially a Deluxe Californian (1851 Navy grip frame) with Alchimista style wide low hammer and the wide centered trigger. In other words, very similar to Taylor’s Run-n-Irons. EMF had never seen one so it may have been spec’d by the Canadian importer. I have a pair of Deluxe Californians coming from Bud’s (I hope). I purchased Alchimista hammers and triggers to have installed. I hope they will be worth the cost and effort.