Deuce Stevens SASS#55996 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Here is a video that I put together covering some 1887 technique. I know just enough about running these guns to hurt myself Would like to reference Fireball and Chili Pepper Pete for sharing their knowledge of running these guns with me. hope you enjoy 1887 technique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Washed SASS #79269 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Wow Deuce, Another great video, Makes me want to get my 87 out. Thanks for the info. Blood Washed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WymoreWrangler SASS 46187L Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Very informative Deuce... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chance Derringer, SASS #19985 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Thanks for the video Deuce....great job. Noticed the Tombstone poster behind you.........I'm your Huckleberry..:-)..........Have one signed by the cast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusty Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Thanks Deuce! I may even have to practice that tecnique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margarita Villain Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Excellent information. Yet again, you show the time you have put into thinking just how to be the most efficient with your movements. Thanks MV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Thank you ......... er, ... any chance of something on a hammered double ... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Dog, SASS #20401 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Nother gud'n, pard. Been more'n a few matches since I whupped out an 87, this vid makes me wanta give 'er another whirl. Thanks so much! What I noticed is the stack of hats on the wall. Reminds me of my place!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COAL CAR KID, SASS #15921 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I never thought of grabbing 4 with the 87, might have to try that. Thanks Deuce! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochet Roy, SASS #71853 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Great video, thanks for sharing. Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedar Creek Coy Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Another excellent video by a 1'st class guy Do you have contact info for Fireball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowhand Bob, 24229 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Deuce you are a class act, we ask for and you deliver. You have me chomping at the bit to get my China version to Lassiter for some major attention. I feel sure that if I watch this two or three times a day until the gun comes back, I will be ready fer a trip to EOT fer sure! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrelhouse Bob, SASS#22663 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Very interesting and informative, thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapeshot 8553 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Somehow, I could not get your video to play. All I had was a Black Square in the middle of the You Tube Page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Great vid, thanks for sharing. I don't have an 87, though hope to get one someday. I have tried the pull four (two in each hand) on my SxS and it's helpful when it works. Grizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Dick, SASS #12880 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I think I saw Mason trying to help at about the 4:01 point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Well done! I have an '87 that I love to shoot, but I'm anything but smooth with it. Looking forward to trying this out. Thanks, Deuce! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE CALHOUN COUNTY BA Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Here is a video that I put together covering some 1887 technique. I know just enough about running these guns to hurt myself Would like to reference Fireball and Chili Pepper Pete for sharing their knowledge of running these guns with me. hope you enjoy 1887 technique That was great. love my 87 even with fumbles.(70 Yr. old) I see that I can improve on my technique. If I only had younger hands!!! Thanks CCBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Pepper Pete 11917 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Woooohoooooo I got my name mentioned in a "Deuce" Video Yeaaaa Me All kidding aside this is a great video, and it covers all the info you need to shoot your 87 competitivly. This video and about 20,000 dry fire runs because Deuce is right on when he said it takes practice, gobbs and gobbs of practice. Thanks for taking the time to put this together, Great job Deuce. One comment to something that Deuce said about the starting position of the carrier, I too always start with mine in the up position not only because of the positive click it makes when the shells go in, but on my 87 the lever stays a little bit more open when picking the gun up. IE with the carrier down, the lever tends to close slighty when you pick the gun off a prop. I am not sure if this is common or not. With the carrier up the lever has more tention and stays open. FWIW Best regards, Chili Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rube Burrows Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Nice video. What did you say you had done to your Winchester? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Buk Chuck SASS # 24540 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Duece nice video. You, Fireball and Chili Pepper can make those 87's sing! NBC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal barnes sass #5792 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Rube, he had the drop two mod and slickup done by Fireball. I have been shooting a Lassiter original for a couple of years and a Lassiter Chiappa for about 6 months and I am proud to say that I am now half as fast as Deuce's 50/60 percent speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Dick, SASS #12880 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Deuce makes it look easy in the video and Lassiter, Chili Pepper Pete, Fireball and others make it look easy in person. It's not. As others have said, to master the '87 requires tons of practice-more than any other firearm used in this sport. I used to get my '87 (Norinco set up by Lassiter) out for a match or two, get frustrated and go back to whatever. It was only when I noticed some "mere mortal" shooters doing well with the '87 that I decided I could tame the thing. I finally stopped shooting any other shotgun and worked only with the '87. I made up dummies and practiced at home, something I almost never did with other guns. I even had the gun and belt full of dummies stashed just off the kitchen and would put the belt on in my bathrobe and run dummies each morning before work while my coffee was brewing. I'm pretty fair with the '87 now and if I can do it, anyone can. I have noticed that most shooters seem to fare better with the strong hand reload and I no longer try to do the weak hand reload that seems especially popular in Michigan. I know that Lassiter times everything and approaches this sport scientifically and he uses the strong hand reload exclusively. I also don't try to pull four shells. I have small hands and think any time saved pulling four shells would be lost to clumsy gun handling with my hands full, but that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Stevens SASS#55996 Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 Buffy as far as loading technique it really depends on the shooter. Fireball was putting up the same splits that Lassiter does right now 10 years ago using the weak hand. With this gun it's all the practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball #7709 Life Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Do you have contact info for Fireball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Thanks Deuce! I've got to give it a try. You made it look so easy. Not sure how it will work on mine as it is an oldie without the mod. I will try grabbing two and loading over the top. Regards, Allie Mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Pepper Pete 11917 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Allie You can still do the load two even if the gun has not been modifide. Basicly with out the mod the top shell drops below the chamber mouth. what you can do is put the shells in the gun and use the thumb of the loading hand to start the the top shell. your just going to lightly push the top shell forward as it clears the top of the reciever. Its kind of a timing thing so give it a try it and see if that works any better for you. Best regards, Chili Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Thanks Chili! I'll give it a try! I love shooting it. Regards, Allie Mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan James Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Allie You can still do the load two even if the gun has not been modifide. Basicly with out the mod the top shell drops below the chamber mouth. what you can do is put the shells in the gun and use the thumb of the loading hand to start the the top shell. your just going to lightly push the top shell forward as it clears the top of the reciever. Its kind of a timing thing so give it a try it and see if that works any better for you. Best regards, Chili Chili, how do I modify my 87 so that the carrier does not drop down so far as to cause the top shell to be below the chamber mouth? If I could get beyond that problem, I'd be shootin' my 87 a lot more. Very best regards, Morgan James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korupt Karl Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Duece; As many have said and all of us know....you are a class act. Others would profit by selling the same quality video. It's because of you and others of your level that make this sport what it is. I know of no other sport where top shooters assist others to get better. I appreciate your personal assistance with my ammo thing and look forward to seeing you in the spring. Best to KJ and Mason. KK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Pepper Pete 11917 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Morgan, Get ahold of Lassiter, he has developed a load two modifacation that works great. Best regards, Chili Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Montana, SASS #23907 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 It definitely takes alot of practice. Lassiter has really proven it's the shotgun for the gunfighter. I know I certainly recommend all gunfighters go to the '87! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedar Creek Coy Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 It definitely takes alot of practice. Lassiter has really proven it's the shotgun for the gunfighter. I know I certainly recommend all gunfighters go to the '87! Yea, Buffalo Dick used to tell me "When I get rich I'm buyin all my competition 87's" I'm still waitin on mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Pepper Pete 11917 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Me Too Coy, Hey Buffy make mine with a short stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Another good instructional video Deuce, I love the shotshell stacking technique - loads sweet!! ...that looks like the same 'original' Winchester you let me shoot, it was the smoothest lever action ever that I had shot! GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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