Silver Rings SASS # 27466 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 I have been shooting my Keltec Sub2000 but have decided upgrade. Looking for suggestions with a budget of $1,500 or less. I am not looking to be a top competitor, just something to make shooting more fun. Thanks Silver Rings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Perhaps a Ruger PC Carbine with a few mods and still have money leftover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loophole LaRue, SASS #51438 Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 I've been shooting a Beretta CX4 Storm in .45 ACP; my LGS has them in 9 mm, in tan or black. $699 Fun gun with a red dot. Lots of accessories and mods available on-line. LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Rings SASS # 27466 Posted June 9, 2022 Author Share Posted June 9, 2022 Thanks for the suggestions, I think I leaning towards an AR style gun. I have never owned an AR type gun but see them used alot in steel challenge matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Joker Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Buy 3 high point .45 carbines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Can you super glue them together? The PCC and their wielders were a factor in my leaving USPSA, guess I can write off Steel as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Get with Tbone at Cowboy Guns 2.0...in HISTORIC downtown Clarksville, Tx. He found Shanley a used Diamondback, and it was very reasonable. The Ruger is a great gun...but for this game, might not be the best choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 If you decide to go the AR-15 route, make sure you get one that was designed, born and built as a 9mm. The ones that are 5.56 standard AR-15 conversions to 9mm never seem to work reliably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El diablo gringo Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Hey SR, little over budget are the jp ar style pcc. Buy once cry once. They’re a joy to shoot. Gringo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Rings SASS # 27466 Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share Posted June 10, 2022 The JP rifles look fine as does the Sig MPX, both are more than I want to spend. The Diamondback is a possibility. Anyone with experience with the JR carbine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Rich Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 We have 2 Rugers and a TNW, they seem to work well when a lot of more expensive PCCs will have problems. It might be operator error. kR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Pistol caliber AR's have always seemed to me to be one of those things that one is told "get brand A, B, or C" and "they really work great" and the you do and find out they don't...because "Oh yeah, now that you have that now you have to this..." And $500 later you wish you hadn't. I have yet to hear of a PC AR that works reliably until lots of fidgeting a f'ing around with it to get it to work occurs. Kind of reminds me of SASS. "Oh, get a blankety-blank rifle. They're the best!" Then you do and then you hear "Now send it to Schmuckatelli's Gunworks and spend umpteen dozen dollars to get it to work..." Misery loves company spending other people's money. My opinion and I am sticking to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 All joking aside, the High Point carbines run really well. Yeah they are ugly as Rosie Odonell in a bikini, but they WORK! Anf they even make a bullpup stock for them now that makes it look snazzy. If I find another one used, I will snatch it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Sheridan Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Palmetto makes the AK-themed AK-V and the AR-themed AR-V. Both are 9mm pistols/carbines that take CZ Scorpion mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, DeaconKC said: All joking aside, the High Point carbines run really well. Yeah they are ugly as Rosie Odonell in a bikini, but they WORK! Anf they even make a bullpup stock for them now that makes it look snazzy. If I find another one used, I will snatch it up. I would gladly handle a Hi-Point Carbine. Rosie O’Donnell? I wouldn’t touch her. I wouldn’t pee on her if she was on fire… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 8 hours ago, Kid Rich said: We have 2 Rugers and a TNW, they seem to work well when a lot of more expensive PCCs will have problems. It might be operator error. kR Kid, I was told the Ruger was often jambing with the rigors of the game...but you are right...it could be operator. I only paid a couple $100 more for the Diamondback WITH optics already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gateway Kid SASS# 70038 Life Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Howdy Silver Rings, I don’t get to play the PCC game often because it always seems to be on a day I am headed to or from Denver. But when I do I use the basic Ruger with a cheap red dot, in “lung blower” 9 mm. I have now run light lead loads at two different OAL, one pretty hot jacketed, two other jacketed (one is duplicate of CBJ’s) and three versions of factory including a jacketed hollow point. Have yet to have a jam or misfeed. I use several different capacities/types of Glock magazines. Love it enough I am looking for one of the fancier versions. Regards Gateway Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 I have yet to any issues at all with my Ruger PC Carbine. I haven’t used it in any competition though. I could see where not bracing it properly to allow the the bolt assembly to do its thing may be an issue but I haven’t seen that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Rings SASS # 27466 Posted June 11, 2022 Author Share Posted June 11, 2022 Thanks again for the info. I know the Ruger is popular but it just isn't my thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 i know my son would push others like the berretta storm but im going to stick with my keltec sub2000 , at my age im not keeping up anymore so no need to "upgrade" for my shooting , besides i dont shoot that regularly enough anyway , hope you find something you like , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Joker Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 What kind of optics can you run on the Hightower bullpup? I currently have a red dot scope and 45' irons. But 27.5 oal inches seems tight. And thanks for the heads up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Fire, SASS 10064 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 CZ EVO in 9mm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Rings SASS # 27466 Posted June 11, 2022 Author Share Posted June 11, 2022 Thanks for the suggestions. I'll keep looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 6 hours ago, Texas Joker said: What kind of optics can you run on the Hightower bullpup? I currently have a red dot scope and 45' irons. But 27.5 oal inches seems tight. And thanks for the heads up It has a Pic rail on top, so I guess whatever you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Hammer Yates 8456 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Look at QC 10's rifles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Rings SASS # 27466 Posted June 12, 2022 Author Share Posted June 12, 2022 I am looking at Diamondback Ar9 or an Aero Precision build. Any experience with these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 I have built several rifle ARs on Aero Lowers and they are excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Rings SASS # 27466 Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 Thanks again for all the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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