Grayrock, SASS #64093 Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Chetany wanted me to contact Frank as well. I got a notification, but before I could read the post I guess he'd been found out. The post disappeared. It was in response to a WTB post. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokedawg SASS#60968 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) Wahoo!!! Fred in TX has the pistol I've been looking for!!! Scott98 has kindly let me know! I'm sure if I send Fred $$ he will get shipped to me ASAP. His email is frehdgabriel@gmail.com just in case anyone else wants to take advantage of his generosity. Edited January 18, 2023 by smokedawg SASS#60968 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Another person has PM'd me that he has "Winchester Model 57 magazines for sale". I replied and asked him to post pictures/prices on my post here in the Classifieds. I doubt that will happen. Name is Couture, joined mid 2022 and has four posts on various threads. They look like "feeler" posts. He may be real but I doubt it. Getting to where you can't even post a WTB or ISO anymore without some scammer trying to rip you off. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Dead Ed Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Cypress Sun said: Another person has PM'd me that he has "Winchester Model 57 magazines for sale". I replied and asked him to post pictures/prices on my post here in the Classifieds. I doubt that will happen. Name is Couture, joined mid 2022 and has four posts on various threads. They look like "feeler" posts. He may be real but I doubt it. Getting to where you can't even post a WTB or ISO anymore without some scammer trying to rip you off. A quick look shows Couture is a guest. If we member, guests can’t sell, they can buy, but not sell on the wires. and yes, it looks he's a lurker…. Report his name to ERM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Not Dead Ed said: A quick look shows Couture is a guest. If we member, guests can’t sell, they can buy, but not sell on the wires. and yes, it looks he's a lurker…. Report his name to ERM. Guest's cannot post a For Sale on the Classifieds. They can sell to you on "the side" however. I going to hold off on reporting him, just to see if he actually posts pictures. If he does post pics, what do you you want to bet that they are either stock pics or pics from another website somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Cypress Sun said: Guest's cannot post a For Sale on the Classifieds. They can sell to you on "the side" however. I going to hold off on reporting him, just to see if he actually posts pictures. If he does post pics, what do you you want to bet that they are either stock pics or pics from another website somewhere. Then ask him for a pic laying on today's news paper or different angles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 When I joined and sold some holsters for a retired Pard, scammers weren't an issue. I shipped them immediately. One sold to a Pard that was overseas at the time. It was at his house before he got home to send me a check! Things are so different now, although names that I see regularly here, I would still treat like the old days as they have with me. Shockingly, I recently had an LGS trust me to send a check for a pistol with a phone call. He had to drop the gun off at an FFL here in Vermont as the shop is in New Hampshire. The shop was closed for a week, so I had possession of the gun for a week before they got my check! Nice to know there is still some trust around. I hate having to be suspicious all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Eyesa Horg said: When I joined and sold some holsters for a retired Pard, scammers weren't an issue. I shipped them immediately. One sold to a Pard that was overseas at the time. It was at his house before he got home to send me a check! Things are so different now, although names that I see regularly here, I would still treat like the old days as they have with me. Shockingly, I recently had an LGS trust me to send a check for a pistol with a phone call. He had to drop the gun off at an FFL here in Vermont as the shop is in New Hampshire. The shop was closed for a week, so I had possession of the gun for a week before they got my check! Nice to know there is still some trust around. I hate having to be suspicious all the time. It'd be nice if the honor system still worked, it can't with the internet. I've had good luck with the Classifieds, but I'm always vigilant. Money is too hard to come by, or to retain, to get ripped off by some scammer. I don't like being suspicious all the time either...but it's become a necessity in the real world. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 When I got my FFL last year, “my” wonderful ATF agent (yes, he’s mine) told me NOT to post my FFL in a place where it could be photographed …Even though regulations state it has to be posted. He said the ATF has told FFL holders to NOT display at gun shows because crooks are photographing them and then photoshopping. Mine is in my shop but not easily viewed. hugs! Scarlett PS there’s a “company” called SensiFlex that apparently, has more Shooters World powders than ShootersWorld LLC! Look out! 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Longbarrel Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 5/22/2022 at 4:26 PM, Frontier Lone Rider said: He just contacted me that he has a Vaquero I am trying to find for sell. He is asking a reasonable price, but he wants payment in the form of Zelle? Here is a quote from the Zelle website: Zelle® does not offer a protection program for any authorized payments made with Zelle® - for example, if you make a purchase using Zelle®, but you do not receive the item or the item is not as described or as you expected. THIS is a giant red flag. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Longbarrel Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 Copy and paste from Zelle web site: Zelle® is a great way to send money to friends, family or others you trust such as your personal trainer, babysitter, or a neighbor. If you don’t know the person or aren’t sure you will get what you paid for (for example, items bought from an on-line bidding or sales site), we recommend you do not use Zelle® for these types of transactions, which are potentially high risk. Zelle® does not offer a protection program for any authorized payments made with Zelle® - for example, if you make a purchase using Zelle®, but you do not receive the item or the item is not as described or as you expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphalet R. Moderator Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 I would suggest to all Wire members again: Do not pay for firearms via apps or platforms that do not allow firearms sales. Do not buy from non-SASS member third parties that just happen to have what you're looking for, suggested by random non-sass member's private messages. If you have questions about a seller, ask. We'll be glad to check it out for you. I am looking in to another post at the moment. The sales post will not become visible until it checks out. Do not buy from posts on the Classified Wire that do not come from SASS members. (We delete them from the Wire as soon as we see them or when reported). Do not use simple passwords. Change them as part of regular maintenance. We've had a few legit SASS members have their accounts hijacked as a result of keylogger viruses that have stolen all their computer information. Use a good antivirus and security suite software with your online devices. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampton Bogs Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Add another scammer to the list. Tommy76. Says he joined two hours ago and he contacted me with a personal message with my post classified post copy and pasted. He also attached an email. When I emailed the email it was again my post copy pasted and he wouldn’t even tell me how many pieces of 50-70 brass he had he just kept asking where I was located and that the price was $200. It seemed fishy from the start so I took screenshots and now I see the message is gone so he deleted it and probably blocked me. Whoever is in charge of the forum please ban that guy I’m sure he has 50 other accounts but at least he’ll have one less….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholla Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 On 1/30/2023 at 8:02 PM, Yeti Longbarrel said: Copy and paste from Zelle web site: Zelle® is a great way to send money to friends, family or others you trust such as your personal trainer, babysitter, or a neighbor. If you don’t know the person or aren’t sure you will get what you paid for (for example, items bought from an on-line bidding or sales site), we recommend you do not use Zelle® for these types of transactions, which are potentially high risk. Zelle® does not offer a protection program for any authorized payments made with Zelle® - for example, if you make a purchase using Zelle®, but you do not receive the item or the item is not as described or as you expected. And buying firearms or many firearms related items is prohibited. Which means if you use their app to do so, you are in violation and could have your account locked. Major payment platforms that prohibit firearms. Adyen firearms policy: Click the following link to read the Adyen Restricted & Prohibited List as of 2018-12-05. Amazon Payments firearms policy: Click the following link to read the Amazon Acceptable Use Policy as of 2019-03-11. Apple Pay firearms policy: Click the following link to read the Acceptable Use Guidelines for Apple Pay on the Web as of 2019-06-13. Braintree firearms policy: Click the following link to read the Braintree Acceptable Use Policy as of 2019-03-11. Coinbase firearms policy: Click the following link to read the Coinbase User Agreement as of 2019-06-18. Escrow.com firearms policy: Click the following link to read the Escrow.com Terms of Use as of 2019-04-10. Note: Not technically a payment platform. Facebook firearms policy: Click the following link to read the Facebook Commerce Policies as of 2021-01-20. Click the following link to read the Facebook Community Payments Terms as of 2019-01-28. Freshbooks firearms policy: "FreshBooks Payments is powered by WePay" and subject to the same Terms of Service Click the following link to read the WePay Terms of Service as of 2019-03-11. Google Pay firearms policy: Click the following link to read the Google Payments center content policies as of 2019-03-11. Helcim firearms policy: Click the following link to read the Helcim Acceptable Use Policy as of 2019-06-13. Intuit Payments firearms policy: Click the following link to read the Intuit Payments Acceptable Use Policy as of 2019-03-11. PayPal firearms policy: Click the following link to read the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy as of 2019-03-11. PayStand firearms policy: Click the following link to read the PayStand Acceptable Use Policy as of 2019-06-13. Skrill firearms policy: Click the following link to read the Skrill Terms of Use as of 2019-03-11. Square and Square Cash firearms policy: Click the following link to read the Square General Terms of Service as of 2019-03-11. Stripe firearms policy: Click the following link to read the Stripe Prohibited Businesses list as of 2019-03-11. Venmo firearms policy: Click the following link to read the Venmo Helpful Information as of 2019-03-11. WePay firearms policy: Click the following link to read the WePay Terms of Service as of 2019-03-11. Zelle firearms policy: Click the following link to read the Zelle Network User Service Agreement as of 2019-06-09. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphalet R. Moderator Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 I would suggest to all Wire members again: Do not pay for firearms via apps or platforms that do not allow firearms sales. Do not buy from non-SASS member third parties that just happen to have what you're looking for, suggested by random non-sass member's private messages. If you have questions about a seller, ask. Like this one: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphalet R. Moderator Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Gabriel420 - banned daddy89 - banned sloppyj - banned Tommy76 - banned nolay92851 - banned lonif87326 - banned zizahalu - banned tenewi - banned It's like playing Whack-a-Mole! Be careful, and if you have questions about a seller, just go to the 3 dots in the upper right corner of the message or post, and hit report. We'll be glad to verify or use the ban hammer, whichever is warranted. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Thank you Moderators. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphalet R. Moderator Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 I do not know if bornintheussr is a scammer. But, since he is using a SASS number that is not his, he has been banned. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokedawg SASS#60968 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 I think he is not a scammer. At least I have bought from him on another board. I think he buys and sells as a money maker. Maybe a dealer? Not sure what he was selling here. He does a lot with C&B stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholla Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 He is a regular on the Coltforum. He seems legit there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphalet R. Moderator Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Using the third-party scam, Daniel56 was answering all the WTB ads. His IP address is hidden behind a VPN, so there is no way to know where he is. Be wary. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little George Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 This guy: Donkj90 joined the site today and already scamming. Donkj90 0 Started conversation: 25 minutes ago Hello, contact Jason In Michigan he has a pair of 4.62” or 5.5” Ruger 357’s his willing to sell and he his trustworthy with his business he can also show his DL. reesedjason23@gmail.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphalet R. Moderator Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 14 hours ago, Little George said: This guy: Donkj90 joined the site today and already scamming. Donkj90 0 Started conversation: 25 minutes ago Hello, contact Jason In Michigan he has a pair of 4.62” or 5.5” Ruger 357’s his willing to sell and he his trustworthy with his business he can also show his DL. reesedjason23@gmail.com Yep, the Third Party Scam. Donkj90, (IP address resolves to Lagos). Good catch folks. They scan the classified listings in forums for WTB posts and answer them all, hoping somebody, anybody, will fall for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longhorn Nick Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Got burned by a sass member Daniel56. Told me of a guy who had a particular gun I wanted. Paid for it a week ago and no replies any of my questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longhorn Nick Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Got burned by a sass member Daniel56. Told me of a guy who had a particular gun I wanted. Paid for it a week ago and no replies any of my questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphalet R. Moderator Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Longhorn Nick said: Got burned by a sass member Daniel56. Told me of a guy who had a particular gun I wanted. Paid for it a week ago and no replies any of my questions. Dang. I'm sure sorry you got caught up in one of those 3rd party scams. Daniel56 was not a SASS member. He was very briefly a Wire member. He registered at 2:18 am and was banned that same morning. His email name was supposedly "Daniel Dominguez" out of Florida. But, his location was hidden behind a VPN. But, he slipped up once and we can trace his IP address back to Nigeria. Everybody please, this is why we restrict Classified sales to SASS Members only. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Burn Powder Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 JohnP same guy same scam signed up 45 minutes ago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphalet R. Moderator Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, Will Burn Powder said: JohnP same guy same scam signed up 45 minutes ago banned! Thanks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longhorn Nick Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Glad he didn't git u! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasparilla Groz Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 New Scammer alert - Watch out! Milli Mil Hi bud, I got someone who want to let sell at cheaper rate, you can reach him chesterfieldway5@gmail.com . Have a good day. Stay safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Gotta ask. How hard would it be to set it up to where new users/posters can’t post or send PM’s for 24 hours to allow time for verification? Not allowing access to joiners from certain countries might help also if you can tell where they originate from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Atcher, SASS #54380 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Just got a message from PJon. Joined 1 hour ago. Included the scammer's email derekrjason21@gmail.com. Be aware. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphalet R. Moderator Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 On 2/2/2023 at 5:29 PM, Eliphalet R. Moderator said: I would suggest to all Wire members again: Do not pay for firearms via apps or platforms that do not allow firearms sales. Do not buy from non-SASS member third parties that just happen to have what you're looking for, suggested by random non-sass member's private messages. If you have questions about a seller, ask. We'll be glad to check it out for you. I am looking in to another post at the moment. The sales post will not become visible until it checks out. Do not buy from posts on the Classified Wire that do not come from SASS members. (We delete them from the Wire as soon as we see them or when reported). Do not use simple passwords. Change them as part of regular maintenance. We've had a few legit SASS members have their accounts hijacked as a result of keylogger viruses that have stolen all their computer information. Use a good antivirus and security suite software with your online devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longhorn Nick Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Check with sass to be sure they r a member. Do not pay with friends and family, PayPal and others won't protect you.. I got burned 2 weeks ago just like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphalet R. Moderator Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Jreese - Las Vegas via way of Lagos. Banned 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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