Alpo Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Book I'm reading, the Coast Guard has just pulled this boat over. They tell them through the bullhorn, "DO NOT THROW ANYTHING OVERBOARD". Now if I had four or five square groupers, it would do me no good to toss them. They float. But if I had say uh, 10 kilos of coke in a bag with a 50 lb weight, and I'm in 50 fathoms of water, what could they do if I threw it overboard? They would certainly suspect that I was disposing of drugs, but unless they got a little mini submarine, I don't think they're going to get it. Ticket me for littering the ocean? That brought to mind something I saw recently on NCIS. The suspect says, "I don't give you permission to take my DNA", and Gibbs says, "We have a court order", we're upon the suspect calmly opens his mouth to let Abby swab his cheek. If they show up at my house with a search warrant, and I refuse to let them in, they can legally kick my door down. But if I tell them I don't care about their court order, and refuse to let them take my DNA, what would they do? What could they do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patagonia Pete Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 I don't know what they would do .. but ... THIS ... (really) is an "official" Coast Guard firearm training target!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 They would restrain you and take a sample, via a blood draw if necessary. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 36 minutes ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: They would restrain you and take a sample, via a blood draw if necessary. Been there. Done that. Got the sample. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 54 minutes ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: They would restrain you and take a sample, via a blood draw if necessary. My wife used to make extra money pulling those samples when we were both younger. She said some weren’t always initially cooperative . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 7 minutes ago, Buckshot Bob said: My wife used to make extra money pulling those samples when we were both younger. She said some weren’t always initially cooperative . Yeah. Drunks can be....frustrating. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Kit Cool Gun Garth Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 When asked, best to just voluntarily provide them with a sample. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassnetguy50 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Mama had a solution for that many years ago. Pinch my nose and eventually the mouth opens, jam in the medicine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 3 hours ago, Father Kit Cool Gun Garth said: When asked, best to just voluntarily provide them with a sample. That will get you charged with "Assault With a Deadly Weapon" niw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dungannon Gunner Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 8 hours ago, Patagonia Pete said: I don't know what they would do .. but ... THIS ... (really) is an "official" Coast Guard firearm training target!! Now I find that very interesting! Thanks for the post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 9 hours ago, Alpo said: Book I'm reading, the Coast Guard has just pulled this boat over. They tell them through the bullhorn, "DO NOT THROW ANYTHING OVERBOARD". Now if I had four or five square groupers, it would do me no good to toss them. They float. But if I had say uh, 10 kilos of coke in a bag with a 50 lb weight, and I'm in 50 fathoms of water, what could they do if I threw it overboard? They would certainly suspect that I was disposing of drugs, but unless they got a little mini submarine, I don't think they're going to get it. Ticket me for littering the ocean? That brought to mind something I saw recently on NCIS. The suspect says, "I don't give you permission to take my DNA", and Gibbs says, "We have a court order", we're upon the suspect calmly opens his mouth to let Abby swab his cheek. If they show up at my house with a search warrant, and I refuse to let them in, they can legally kick my door down. But if I tell them I don't care about their court order, and refuse to let them take my DNA, what would they do? What could they do? 50 fathoms is only 300 ft, so recovery is fairly easy by an experienced diver. I’ve been to 250’ so an extra 50 feet just means some extra decompression time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Joker Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 15 hours ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Yeah. Drunks can be....frustrating. 2 backboards and a roll of medical tape, then just lean em in the corner. i bet I can restrain and get a sample 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoken D Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Always loved it when someone would tell me that. Obtained the sample every time. Was always freely given then. I think my give-a-way was the smile I had on my face and how much I wished they said that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 An older Inspector I used to work with, (I was the Purchasing Agent, not an LEO) would have just used his night stick and picked up whatever was needed, from the end of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Joker Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Was watching a show with my youngest son and turn o the 20th century cops were using sticks for 'crowd control' and he said all indignant 'they can't do that can they?'. I said let me introduce you to the phrase tune em up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted June 18 Author Share Posted June 18 3 hours ago, Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 said: An older Inspector I used to work with, (I was the Purchasing Agent, not an LEO) would have just used his night stick and picked up whatever was needed, from the end of it. I was thinking similar. They won't let you swab their cheek, so you punch them in the nose and get the DNA off the blood on your fist. Probably get sued. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joke 'um Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Usually, Gibbs just offers them a cup of coffee. When finished, they test the cup. Works for prints too. At least, it works on NCIS where the writers make it come out the way it needs to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Ron Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Howdy, As I understand it dna is all over our garbage. Best CR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okie Sawbones, SASS #77381 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 They just shoot you here in Texas. 'He needed killin' is a valid defense here. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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