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The “time out” generation

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I think we can conclude that the “time out” generation didn’t produce as good of citizens as “ass woopen” generation.

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But most of them are too stupid to understand that!!!

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I recently heard the younger crowd referred to as the IG Generation, for "Instant Gratification."

 

It fits.  :mellow:

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Yes, but what do we call the generation that raised the “Time Out Generation”?

 

I think that perhaps they should be called on the carpet somehow for espousing their ignorance and inflicting us with their off-spring. Now their children are having children...

 

It’s too early for this...need more coffee...

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3 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said:

Yes, but what do we call the generation that raised the “Time Out Generation”?

 

 

 

Responsible.

 

They are the ones that raised the tech savvy little barbarians and failed in their job to society by spoiling their behinds rotten and not giving them proper home training.

 

That being said, all of them ain't like that.  Like usual, the squeaky wheels get all of the attention and grease.

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I've known a pair of young ladies since they were babies.  Now they are 18 and 21 (sisters), and quite lovely.  I imagine their father, who is now my pastor, has a lot of worries about the young men they will eventually be bringing home.  I, for one, can't stand the current generation of young men, and it makes me worry about those two young women and their futures.  The "man buns" and "skinny jeans" are bad enough, but I can chalk those things up as simple generational differences that don't have any real meaning.  

 

What bothers me is they are NOT MEN.  They are wimpy little turds who have completely turned their backs on what it means to be men.  They look down on anyone who works with their hands, have no idea how to change a tire, swear off eating meat (let alone hunting it!), and some of them even advertise wanting to be "feminized."  Oh, dear Lord, save us.

 

God made me a man.  I'm in no way better than a woman, but we are DIFFERENT and have different roles.  My body was literally designed for combat, and my primary role is to provide for AND PROTECT my family.  And, by extension, if a woman with whom I'm not acquainted happens to be in distress, I am supposed to protect her, too. I don't go looking for a fight, but if one comes around, that guy better bring backup. I am called to work hard at my job, whether it is physical or behind a computer, treat people with respect, and shake hands while looking someone in the eye.  I am supposed to discipline my children (two boys, who WILL be men if it's the last thing I do), and teach them the things above.  

 

These are things the young non-men in our country have no idea about.  Not only do I fear for the future of these two young ladies I've watched grow up, I fear for the future of our country as a whole.  

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Perhaps we still have a slim chance, if the young folks opt to join the military.  If they make it out of boot camp/basic training (or whatever they call it nowadays), then they have a good chance to make a positive difference.  Honor, duty, country, apples to all branches of the military, and seems to become part of who they are.  It did me...even back in the day. 

We can hope, anyway. 

 

W.K.

 

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I don't know about this.

Billy the Kid was a killer, often attacking men unaware of his presence, believing that he had the right to do so.

The 1920s is the decade of a generation of ne'er-do-well youngsters of partying people not willing to be responsible (e.g. Reefer Madness).

The youth of the 1960s and 1970s had a significant fraction that were irresponsible and counter to society (e.g. Crazy Mary and Dirty Larry).

Part of being young, for many (not all) is a lack of maturity and responsibility.  This current generation will likely find their own way to grow up.

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I know several of these people who were raised in the “Time Out”, “Participation Trophy” system of discipline.  My own son grew up in this silliness, but he was taught differently by me and his mother.

 

They believe that they are owed everything and are entitled to whatever they desire despite the fact that they don’t want to work for anything or anyone.  It is society’s duty and the government’s responsibility to provide for their needs and anyone who feels differently is a fascist or worse!!

 

It is the fault of those who raised them that way! Those of us who stood by and let it happen are, to some lesser extent, responsible as well!  

 

I and those like me, who fought against this idea were shouted down and now we’re forced to tolerate these nearly useless progeny because it is “Politically Correct” and to say otherwise is to call out their parents and to demean them personally!!

 

They, I think, are really a minority that squeals so loud that they’re getting all of the notice, while what’s left of the baby boomers and those young people who do work hard and show responsibility and respect for what’s right go unnoticed and unrecognized!

 

 The good ones ain’t news!!

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7 hours ago, Cyrus Cassidy #45437 said:

 

What bothers me is they are NOT MEN.  They are wimpy little turds who have completely turned their backs on what it means to be men.  They look down on anyone who works with their hands, have no idea how to change a tire, swear off eating meat (let alone hunting it!), and some of them even advertise wanting to be "feminized."  Oh, dear Lord, save us.

 

God made me a man.  I'm in no way better than a woman, but we are DIFFERENT and have different roles.  My body was literally designed for combat, and my primary role is to provide for AND PROTECT my family.  And, by extension, if a woman with whom I'm not acquainted happens to be in distress, I am supposed to protect her, too. I don't go looking for a fight, but if one comes around, that guy better bring backup. I am called to work hard at my job, whether it is physical or behind a computer, treat people with respect, and shake hands while looking someone in the eye.  I am supposed to discipline my children (two boys, who WILL be men if it's the last thing I do), and teach them the things above....  

 

 

I'm mighty glad you're a Scoutmaster, Cyrus.  And glad that you're not the only one with these values - despite the crap we get on TV and radio these days.    

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I remember a lot of years trying to convince Grandson #1 how easy life could be if he'd just do what his Mama said.

Given that, there was an occasion where he put Grandson #2 on the back of the John Deere tractor (kid-sized) and drove him to the next-door neighbors house without permission.

Their father got down on eye level with his boys and explained why it was not ok to drive off without permission, and how G#2 should not automatically think it ok if G#1 suggested it.

Shortly thereafter I was with G#2 (still at the neighbor's house) when their mother drove up.  Sez G#2: NOW we're in trouble.

I'm not a bit worried about those boys.

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My boys 28 and almost 26 are both both married to Ladies in the health care field, both just starting families of their own ...

They grew up Shooting, Hunting and Fishing and as their Mother and Wives state as Gentlemen with  good moral standards ...

During this COVID crisis both are working as Health Care Aides giving hands on care to seniors ...

And as such I would say they would show well against any Kids raised in the 50s onward ....

My daughters, 33 University English Prof. and 30 an Ordained Minister, grew up eating Game meat supplied by their Brothers and Dad.  One a Mother ( 18 month old girl ) and the other a Mother to be in Nov.  would also stack up well compared to kids raised years ago ...

So let's not write-off all the Kids out there .... For full disclosure they did get their bottoms paddled on rare occasions as needed .... 

 

Jabez Cowboy 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 said:

My boys 28 and almost 26 are both both married to Ladies in the health care field, both just starting families of their own ...

They grew up Shooting, Hunting and Fishing and as their Mother and Wives state as Gentlemen with  good moral standards ...

During this COVID crisis both are working as Health Care Aides giving hands on care to seniors ...

And as such I would say they would show well against any Kids raised in the 50s onward ....

My daughters, 33 University English Prof. and 30 an Ordained Minister, grew up eating Game meat supplied by their Brothers and Dad.  One a Mother ( 18 month old girl ) and the other a Mother to be in Nov.  would also stack up well compared to kids raised years ago ...

So let's not write-off all the Kids out there .... For full disclosure they did get their bottoms paddled on rare occasions as needed .... 

 

Jabez Cowboy 

 

 

I agree it's not the whole generation.  We recruit some great ones every year, but it's becoming more difficult to find the eagles among the growing flock of turkeys.  20 years ago we interviewed 50 to find one properly qualified entry-level candidate for our business.  10 years ago that doubled to 100.  Today it's 200.  On average, these recent college grads are less educated, struggle with even the simplest of logical problems, have fewer life skills, and have a questionable work ethic, but they do have a superiority complex and high salary expectations.   I love watching our top 2 and 3-year people interview these candidates.  Their reactions during post-interview debriefs would make a great book.

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We tend to generalize when talking about generations. And especially when it comes to the worst examples. It has always been thus. Not everybody in the Greatest Generation was great, not everybody in my generation was a hippie or a baby killer.

Why I frequently shudder at a lot of the current crop of under 30s, I have to remain optimistic about the future.

My dad didn’t like rock&roll. ;)

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Most of the kids that I coached in baseball and basketball are 40

years old and older.

 

Many have built businesses of their own or taken jobs and made homes and families of their own. A few have fallen into drugs or other failing endeavors.  I could tell you which ones were headed in which direction by the way that their parents handled them at practice and games.

 

One example that I recall vividly was when my son and some of his friends were camped out on the property of a fellow coach.  I got a call at work from the other coach telling me how proud I should be of Hatfield.  One of the kids suggested that they go into town and vandalize some store or such.

 

Hatfield stood up and told them all that if I was to find out about it, I’d kill every one of them! “You’re CRAZY!!” he told them.

 

I found out later that he put a quick stop to the whole idea. The other coach’s boys backed him up.  They agreed that their deaths might be eminent and added that their dad would, “help him hide their bodies!!”

 

Reinforced my thinking that I raised my boy right and that other kids were raised the same!!

 

To this day, grown men greet me on the street with, “Hey, coach!!”

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On 7/8/2020 at 4:30 PM, Utah Bob #35998 said:

My dad didn’t like rock&roll. 

Mine, either, but he did play a dobro.

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On 7/8/2020 at 3:30 PM, Utah Bob #35998 said:

My dad didn’t like rock&roll. ;)

 

50 minutes ago, MizPete said:

Mine, either, but he did play a dobro.

 

My dad was deep off into country music.  As a Nashville cop, he was bodyguard for Brenda Lee when she was a kid. He worked security at the Grand Old Opry as well.

 

Even as a kid, I was into The Blues! He didn’t like it much.  I was into rock ‘n’ roll and he wasn’t real pleased with that either!

 

Back in the late 90s, he came to hear my band play at a big Blues festival!  When we came off stage, he came up to me and the guys. He looked me dead in the eyes and said, “Now I get it!” 

 

When he passed in 2005, he had even started enjoying my music!

 

Most everything else, we already agreed on!!

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So very cool!  I had a conversation with my Dad one day when he was putting down the long-haired freaky people & I reminded him he was watching a man with sequined wagon wheels on his shirt.  I am slowly coming around to his way of thinking if it involves Willie Nelson.

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I get the every generation thing. But I wonder if it hasn't gone more and more off track over time. More and more kids growing up without fathers in their lives, more kids bubbled in schools and never working at home with dad and later part time jobs while in junior high and high school. I see more and more kids who don't feel any desire to move out on their own. I see more and more who don't want to own a home, it's too much work. Same with cars, (when I was growing up every kid wanted a car and a drivers license), now many kids don't want a car - too much responsibility - many don't have licenses. I see more and more who have even given up on having a boyfriend or girlfriend, some settle for online relationships, some would rather watch porn and play video games, and many have no desire to ever marry or have kids and a family. 

 

I especially see this with city kids, kids from single mom homes, kids that are addicted to social media and gaming. They really do seem in too many cases to be sheltered from reality and afraid of living life. They want a guaranteed basic income, free college, free healthcare - and stare blankly if you try to point out that nothing is free. Frankly I think this nation is in deep trouble and when these more recent generations take control of government -  freedom is in danger of extinction - sacrificed on the alter of fairness and equality of outcome.

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I think the "Time Out" generation has grown up.  I remember back some 20 years ago in Boot Camp at Great Lakes they had tried "Time Out" cards for when a recruit felt stressed.  That didn't last long, as those of us that were more experienced said "the enemy doesn't care if you're stressed".  

Like every generation things change, older generations compare the younger ones and complain (sometimes with good reason).  I think that it's not the current generation but the generation that's raising them.  Kids are a product of the parents, they form their life compass based on what they're taught and see.  Parents today let technology teach the children, "there's an app for that" instead of being hands on.  They allow the children to interact electronically maybe because they feel it's safer, or cheaper, or just the way things are.  To me the scary thing is what people will be like 3 to 4 generations from now.

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HERE YA' GO!!

 

 

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