Leon Spings Bill Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Anyone use Alliant 2400 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Don't much care for 2400. How about some details, as to rifle, and distance you want to shoot..... OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Spings Bill Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 100-150 yards 405 gr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I bet you mean .45-70 then. Again I ask-What rifle?? OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Spings Bill Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 Marlin 1895ltd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Try 14.5-15.0 gns of Unique and use a firm roll crimp. STD, LR primer..... NO FILLER OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Wheeler Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 In a Marlin 1895 Cowboy I shoot long range out to 200 yards with 13 grains of Trail Boss under a 405 grain lead bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Crimes Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 My 405gr load was 34gr of 2207 (H4198). That is a bit quicker than the TB load above (about 1450fps V's 1000fps for the TB load). Both loads are good for your stated range and rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attica Jack #23953 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I use 27 grs. Hodgdon 4198 behind 405 lead bullet, mild recoil, accurate at 200yds. Trailboss is a good powder for the 45/70, really low recoil, don't quote me, I thought I used 16grs. behind 405. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 for my Marlin 95 14.2 Unique with a 340 grn bullet. Have SUCCESSFULLY shot it out to 300 meters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead Monger Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 60 grains of GOEX FF, Fed 215 primer and one milk carton wad under a 405 lead bullet. Tune it to your taste and have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Full load APP 405 gr pill and let her fly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Creek Jack Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 In my Marlin 1895 I like 23 gr. of Accurate 5744 behind a hollow base 405 grain bullet, very accurate and I have done very well in side match long range competition at CAS shoots out to 400 yrds. SCJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKFOOT SASS #11947 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 9:40 PM, Dutch Wheeler said: In a Marlin 1895 Cowboy I shoot long range out to 200 yards with 13 grains of Trail Boss under a 405 grain lead bullet. Best load that I have shot at 200 for ringing steel. Haven't tried it for punching paper. Blackfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I've noticed folks using X amount of H4198, however my books call for IMR-4198 which I believe is a completely different powder. Any info here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostVaquero Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I use trailboss for 1895 marlin. 13 grains will wirk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attica Jack #23953 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 IMR 4198 and Hodgdon 4198 are different powders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Crimes Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Eyesa Horg said: I've noticed folks using X amount of H4198, however my books call for IMR-4198 which I believe is a completely different powder. Any info here? Yes they are different. H4198 is actually made in Australia and we call it 2207. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Spings Bill Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 What about IMR Trailboss and Hodgdon Trailboss are they the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Crimes Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Leon Spings Bill said: What about IMR Trailboss and Hodgdon Trailboss are they the same? TB is made in Australia and sold to Hodgdon by ADI (Australian Defence Industries). I just looked at the load tables for IMR TB and they are the same as Hodgdon and ADI so I believe they are the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Crimes Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 These containers are IMR, ADI and Hodgdon. I don't think they would get away with the same image unless they were under licence from one supplier,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramblin Gambler Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 On 3/14/2019 at 10:59 AM, Eyesa Horg said: I've noticed folks using X amount of H4198, however my books call for IMR-4198 which I believe is a completely different powder. Any info here? I'm only just starting to learn about reloading, but I recently had a similar question. The answer was to look in different books. Some books just don't cover certain powders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee Snuffy Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Do the 405 Bullets have a single grease groove or triple? What is the overall length of the final product? 0.458 or 0.459 diameter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 On 3/14/2019 at 10:59 AM, Eyesa Horg said: I've noticed folks using X amount of H4198, however my books call for IMR-4198 which I believe is a completely different powder. Any info here? There a a few powders that share the same number but the prefix is either IMR or H. Examples include IMR 4198 and H4198 IMR 4895 and H4895 IMR4831 and H4831 IMR4227 and H4227 In every case the powders are not interchangeable even though they are now all made by Hodgdon. IMR and Accurate also share numbers between several powders and they are not interchangeable either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Crimes Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 9 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said: In every case the powders are not interchangeable even though they are now all made by Hodgdon. I thought Hodgdon didn't make powder but were a bulk buyer and distributor? Link is to an article which includes the powders from Aust and what Hodgdon calls them. https://revivaler.com/hodgdon-powder-adi-australian-connection/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knarley Bob Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 On 3/15/2019 at 1:06 AM, Major Crimes said: These containers are IMR, ADI and Hodgdon. I don't think they would get away with the same image unless they were under licence from one supplier,. Most likely the same parent Co. owns all three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Crimes Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 41 minutes ago, Knarley Bob said: Most likely the same parent Co. owns all three. ADI (Australian Defence Industries) was an Australian Company that started as an Aust Govt entity. It is now a subsidiary of Thales which is a French company. Are IMR and Hodgdon French owned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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