How Many Henry 1860

[Seamus McGillicuddy]

Thanks to Driftwood for yet another excellent and useful tutorial on black powder shooting!

 

Seamus. 

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

2 hours ago, Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 said:

I have three:

My main match rifle is a 20" 44-40 Henry Transitional built by Colorado Coffinmaker, patterned after one made by a Peruvian gunsmith in the late 1800s.

I also have a 24" 44-40 Henry Transitional built by Happy Trails.

My 3rd is a 19" Henry Carbine in 45 Colt, set up for 45 Cowboy Special by Colorado Coffinmaker.

Here's me shooting my 20" Main Match Henry Transitional:

--Dawg

 

Dawg can we please see some Pics of them Sexy Ladys you speak off ?

[Major Art Tillery]

So with all the 1860 talk... Would anyone be interested in joining us in Kansas This year in May for a Henry Challenge?

 

Our club the Butterfield Gulch Gang will be holding the State BP Match and I always like to issue a challenge to use the 1860 for all ten stages. (Smokeless shooters can sign up as well just scored separately).  Last year two of us did it, would be awesome if any of you folks would like to join in.  Heck if we got enough interest I would even toss up a buckle or something for the event. And maybe have a side match dedicated to just the Henry??

 

Major Art Tillery

[Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329]

Good Morning Major:

If things work out, I will be at Prince of the Pistoleers this year, shooting cap guns and my Henry.

--Dawg

[Rafe Conager SASS #56958]

Y'all making me want to get a Henry! Not sure if that would be smart, shooting a Henry with black powder in Arizona, but it sure would bring style points using my 60 armies and ttn hammered double

Rafe

[Colorado Coffinmaker]

Rafe,

Dawg and I will both tell ya, there is noting ..... absolutely nothing ...... as cool as a pair of Cap Guns, a Hammer Double and a Henry with BP.  Absolutely AWSOME!!!    Arizona would be no worse than anywhere with BP inna Henry.  Just grip it real careful    Unless of course, those Cap Guns just happen to be 3 1/2 inch barrel Snubbies!!!! ...... Ah .... GUNFIGHTER!! 

[Rafe Conager SASS #56958]

I've left skin on my 66 shooting black, but my cap guns are 4 5/8" 51s and 5 1/2' 60s. Can't wait for my thumb to heal haven't shot since Bordertown and won't be able to until around February.

Rafe

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

8 minutes ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said:

Rafe,

Dawg and I will both tell ya, there is noting ..... absolutely nothing ...... as cool as a pair of Cap Guns, a Hammer Double and a Henry with BP.  Absolutely AWSOME!!!    Arizona would be no worse than anywhere with BP inna Henry.  Just grip it real careful    Unless of course, those Cap Guns just happen to be 3 1/2 inch barrel Snubbies!!!! ...... Ah .... GUNFIGHTER!! 

Thats my favorite way to shoot my Henry !

 

My Uberti Brass 1860 Henry .

My Coffinmaker tuned  Sheriff Model 1860's and

My Hammered 12ga with Damascus barrels 

All with fullload BP.

Rooster 

[Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329]

1 hour ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said:

Rafe,

Dawg and I will both tell ya, there is noting ..... absolutely nothing ...... as cool as a pair of Cap Guns, a Hammer Double and a Henry with BP.  Absolutely AWSOME!!!    Arizona would be no worse than anywhere with BP inna Henry.  Just grip it real careful    Unless of course, those Cap Guns just happen to be 3 1/2 inch barrel Snubbies!!!! ...... Ah .... GUNFIGHTER!! 

 

Cap Gun Snubbie GunFighter is flat-out the best there is!

And yes, a Hammer Double and Henry goes with 'em like peanut butter n jelly!

 

Herman's Hermits said it best in 1965:

"H-E-N-R-Y

Henry (Henry)

Henry (Henry)

Henry the eighth I am, I am

Henry the eighth I am

Yeah!"

--Dawg

 

[Lawman Mays]

On 11/28/2017 at 9:34 PM, Nickel City Dude said:

I have an 1860 Henry I have used for Civil War reenacting for about 24 years. 

Hey Nickel City Dude, I'm with the 66th Il, Western Sharpshooters. Are you with them or another group? I bought my Henry 2 and half years ago from the Henry Repeating Arms Company, Bayone, NJ. Love it as all Henry owners seem to. There's not that many Henry friendly CW reenactments in the East. That's one reason I got into Cowboy Action Shooting.

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

This is Not mine .

But I found this long ago on Cascity .

Thought it would go good here too.

 

Forty-five years ago when the old man was young 
   The Henry Rifle was new;
And thru all the years has the pioneer clung
   To the gun as a friend proven true,
For the Henry has shortened the wolf’s thieving life,
   And taken its toll of the deer;
And in troublous times it protected the wife
   And babes of the young pioneer.
Now life lies behind them – yet love smiles between –
   The glow of the sunset grows dim,
But warm is the light and the prairies are green
   In the place where she is waiting for him.

The rifle comes down from the antlers where hung,
   Together they pass in review;
The forty-five years since the old man was young
   And the Henry rifle was new.

Circa 1918
Charles E Easton
Courtesy of Jim Foral

 

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

15 hours ago, Lawman Mays said:

Hey Nickel City Dude, I'm with the 66th Il, Western Sharpshooters. Are you with them or another group? I bought my Henry 2 and half years ago from the Henry Repeating Arms Company, Bayone, NJ. Love it as all Henry owners seem to. There's not that many Henry friendly CW reenactments in the East. That's one reason I got into Cowboy Action Shooting.

Nice Rack of Toys Lawman .

I hope you found what you was looking for here in SASS .

Looks like there is a few of us Henry lover's here too

Rooster 

[Dantankerous]

18 hours ago, Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 said:

 

"H-E-N-R-Y

Henry (Henry)

Henry (Henry)

Henry the eighth I am, I am

Henry the eighth I am

Yeah!"

 

 

 

Second verse, same as the first!

 

[Lawman Mays]

4 hours ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said:

Nice Rack of Toys Lawman .

I hope you found what you was looking for here in SASS .

Looks like there is a few of us Henry lover's here too

Rooster,

Yea man, great guns. I have found a good nitch in SASS. Really enjoying it. Take care.

[LostVaquero]

I had a Henry Repeating Arms Henry but sold it off and sure now wish I had not.  Well maybe again someday will pick one up. 

Eyed the Rare Carbine but hoping that HRC might release that one in 45 colt.

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

8 hours ago, LostVaquero said:

I had a Henry Repeating Arms Henry but sold it off and sure now wish I had not.  Well maybe again someday will pick one up. 

Eyed the Rare Carbine but hoping that HRC might release that one in 45 colt.

I think a Carbine might help with some of the heft,

That the Henry has .

Rooster

[COAL CAR KID, SASS #15921]

My current main match rifle is an iron frame .44-40 Navy Arms Henry; with a pair of Pietta 1851 Navies and a TTN shotgun, shooting Frontiersman or FCGF.

I also have a .45 brass frame Uberti for when I shoot that smokeless stuff.

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

We would not have a lot of the guns we use in SASS,

With out Uberti !

 

[Rafe Conager SASS #56958]

Stop showing Henry's, I'm starting to think about which guns I could sell to buy one!

Rafe

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

2 hours ago, Rafe Conager SASS #56958 said:

Stop showing Henry's, I'm starting to think about which guns I could sell to buy one!

Rafe

Every Cowboy should have at least One Henry !

Just sayin 

Rooster 

[Major Art Tillery]

Video of the first time my 1860 saw a BP Load..

 

Fire out of an 1860, it just seems right some how. 

 

 

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

On 11/30/2017 at 4:28 PM, Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 said:

I have three:

My main match rifle is a 20" 44-40 Henry Transitional built by Colorado Coffinmaker, patterned after one made by a Peruvian gunsmith in the late 1800s.

I also have a 24" 44-40 Henry Transitional built by Happy Trails.

My 3rd is a 19" Henry Carbine in 45 Colt, set up for 45 Cowboy Special by Colorado Coffinmaker.

Here's me shooting my 20" Main Match Henry Transitional:

--Dawg

 

Dawg !

We would love to see some pic's of them Transition Model Henry's you speak of.

Please show them to us .

Rooster 

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

Some Henry Info .

Just to share with You .

 

[Slowhand Bob, 24229]

My first year of shooting SASS I signed up for the state match AND who should be in attendance, why Navy Arms of course.  Naturally their selection of cap and ball revolvers drew my right to their display table but not even their beautiful 1860 Army clones could keep me from what I thought was the most beautiful gun on their tables, the Uberti Henry rifle with the color case frame.  I thought this was surely the most beautiful gun that I had ever seen and despite my oaths to not buy any guns that weekend, I had to have this rifle.  Though I carried the rifle home with me I did not fire it for around three years.  After many trials and tribulations I could not get a pair of pistols to run well enough to use in a match.  I broke down and purchased a pair of Pietta '58 Armies and found that they worked flawlessly so entered my first match as a bp shooter without ever having fired the Henry.  Wouldn't you know it, the dang Henry wouldnt extract properly!   Accepting that it was a factory defect, extractor groove was cut to shallow, they added insult to injury by not doing the work under warranty claiming it had expired.  It has since been a great rifle and though I have considered buying a brass frame version in .45, this one aint fer sale... 

[Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L]

I purchased my first Uberti Henry in 2000 in 45 Colt. Bought another, a 44-40 iron frame from Henry Repeating Arms in 2016.

 

I had a local leathersmith make a replica of the Civil War "Henry Arms Company" ammo pouch (I know - not legal for reloads) for my belt. The belt was fabricated as a simple black belt with five canvas loops on each side similar to what Union Soldiers would do to carry a few extra Henry cartridges on them.

 

I also had a D-Guard Bowie custom made to go along with the theme.

 

 

 

 

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

13 hours ago, Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L said:

I purchased my first Uberti Henry in 2000 in 45 Colt. Bought another, a 44-40 iron frame from Henry Repeating Arms in 2016.

 

I had a local leathersmith make a replica of the Civil War "Henry Arms Company" ammo pouch (I know - not legal for reloads) for my belt. The belt was fabricated as a simple black belt with five canvas loops on each side similar to what Union Soldiers would do to carry a few extra Henry cartridges on them.

 

I also had a D-Guard Bowie custom made to go along with the theme.

 

 

 

 

Nice stuff .

Did you do some reenactments ?

Rooster 

[Nickel City Dude]

There is a reason that a Henry cartridge box has a secure place for all the cartridges.  And that reason is that because all the cartridges were rim fire just letting them loose in a pouch or bag was dangerous.  Or at least that what the thinking was back in 1860.  They figured that because the primer was in the rims that if the cartridges banged into each other wile carrying them in one lump they might go off.  I think that they were concerned that with all the components lumped together they were not as stable as the old musket ball cartridges that had the primers in a seporate location.

[Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L]

3 hours ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said:

Nice stuff .

Did you do some reenactments ?

Rooster 

 

No reenacting, just striving for the ex-CW look.

 

Another pic of the original cartridge box:

[Guest]

Injun Ryder, Nice pictures. Now I have a couple of winter projects to make. A cartridge box and a D-Guard Bowie to go along with my 1860 Military in the white rifle. Castalia

[Guest]

Here is an interesting article I found:

 

[Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L]

1 hour ago, Castalia,SASS#18915 said:

Here is an interesting article I found:

 

 

It was from this article that I found the information on the cartridge box:

"Chapter 6: Henry Odds and Ends"

...

The other box for the Henry did not hold as many rounds. It is possibly the rarest cartridge box of the Civil War. This box was manufactured by the New Haven Arms Company in 1864. The black leather flap measures 7 inches across and is embossed with the standard "US" oval 3 inches across. The flap is pointed like a shield at the bottom and measures 4.5 inches from point to top of the box. At the bottom left hand of the front flap of the box is marked "Henry Arms Company 1864" in 1 and three eights inch elongated rectangle inspector's stamp. The back of the box has two, three-quarters of an inch leather straps riveted to the box four inches long for fitting over a cavalry or infantry belt. The flap affixes to the box by a brass vinule in a three-quarter inch leather strap. Inside the box is a staggered row of linen loops with places for 16 cartridges. On the outside of the front box, underneath the flap, there is another stitched row of 8 linen loops for cartridges. To the left inside the box there is a rounded space with a leather strap with a cut out for a Henry rifle tool. The box itself is 6 inches by 3 inches. It is 2 and a half inches deep and 2 inches wide. This box is pictured in Dr. Francis Lord's third volume of The Civil War Collectors Encyclopedia. One of these cartridge boxes was offered for sale a few years ago at the price of $1,400.(39) "

 

The pictures I posted of the original cartridge box are from Dr. Francis Lord's "The Civil War Collectors Encyclopedia". It took me some effort to find a copy of this book in a library in a town not too far away about 15 years ago.

 

The leathermaker had a custom stamp made for the "Henry Arms Company 1864" for this cartridge box. He made two cartridge boxes to the above specifications while he was at it but I don't know where the second one went. A few years ago, he closed his shop and was doing leather work from home. I don't know if he is still doing leather work but, if interested, I could contact him.

[Guest]

 The picture does the cartridge box justice and I should be able to re-create it. Now I need to find a "Henry Rifle Tool".

[Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L]

1 hour ago, Castalia,SASS#18915 said:

 The picture does the cartridge box justice and I should be able to re-create it. Now I need to find a "Henry Rifle Tool".

 

Good luck! If you do, get one for me!

[Rooster Ron Wayne]

10 hours ago, Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L said:

 

It was from this article that I found the information on the cartridge box:

"Chapter 6: Henry Odds and Ends"

...

The other box for the Henry did not hold as many rounds. It is possibly the rarest cartridge box of the Civil War. This box was manufactured by the New Haven Arms Company in 1864. The black leather flap measures 7 inches across and is embossed with the standard "US" oval 3 inches across. The flap is pointed like a shield at the bottom and measures 4.5 inches from point to top of the box. At the bottom left hand of the front flap of the box is marked "Henry Arms Company 1864" in 1 and three eights inch elongated rectangle inspector's stamp. The back of the box has two, three-quarters of an inch leather straps riveted to the box four inches long for fitting over a cavalry or infantry belt. The flap affixes to the box by a brass vinule in a three-quarter inch leather strap. Inside the box is a staggered row of linen loops with places for 16 cartridges. On the outside of the front box, underneath the flap, there is another stitched row of 8 linen loops for cartridges. To the left inside the box there is a rounded space with a leather strap with a cut out for a Henry rifle tool. The box itself is 6 inches by 3 inches. It is 2 and a half inches deep and 2 inches wide. This box is pictured in Dr. Francis Lord's third volume of The Civil War Collectors Encyclopedia. One of these cartridge boxes was offered for sale a few years ago at the price of $1,400.(39) "

 

The pictures I posted of the original cartridge box are from Dr. Francis Lord's "The Civil War Collectors Encyclopedia". It took me some effort to find a copy of this book in a library in a town not too far away about 15 years ago.

 

The leathermaker had a custom stamp made for the "Henry Arms Company 1864" for this cartridge box. He made two cartridge boxes to the above specifications while he was at it but I don't know where the second one went. A few years ago, he closed his shop and was doing leather work from home. I don't know if he is still doing leather work but, if interested, I could contact him.

I would be interested in his contact info if he is still in business to make another one or two.

Rooster

[July Smith]

New to the game and late to this thread, but I too shoot a Henry in 44-40.