Wyatt Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Shooter is shooting Duelist, draws right pistol with right hand and fires five shots, holsters. Draws left pistol with left hand and transfers to right hand. Fires five shots. Tosses the pistol form their right hand to their left hand about 6 to 8 inches away, catches it and holsters. Is there a call? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Probably no more than when a shooters tosses their long guns down on a table. Of my understanding, If it wasn't cocked, I would say 'No Call'. Can you point out a rule that might warrant a penalty? ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Drover Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 "a cocked and loaded" pistol cannot leave hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pick Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Didn't break the 170, didn't drop the pistol, wasn't cocked, no call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Most Wanted Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 I'd say no call and suggest they not do it. Can't see how it helps versus what harm it may do to make it worth the risk. I've seen people do similar odd things and after ignoring advice to stop such things I choose to stay as far away from them as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 "a cocked and loaded" pistol cannot leave ... hand Fixed that for ya. REF: RO1 p.24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUTH-PACIFIC,SASS #59402 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 i say no call as long as no safety rules was broken. if a safety rule is broken stick it to the shutter. actions such as this leaves a open field for not if but when you will drop the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I agree with the comments so far, no call as described. But throwing a firearm from one hand to another might be called unsafe gun handling at some point. Rule 20 on page 25 of the Handbook addresses unsafe gun handling while drawing a revolver and gives a Stage DQ as the penalty. I don't know if the ROC intended to limit the definition of unsafe gun handling to the draw only, or whether "unsafe gun handling" can be defined by the TO at any time during the stage. There...that should get some arguments started!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee Trapper Tom Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 No call. Essentially it would be the same as if you missed the holster, dropped the pistol and caught it in mid-air, without breaking the 170. Only difference being that the former was executed intentionally. I too, would distance myself from that shooter. I would worry about the shooter that practices this, loses count and executes the manuever with a live round under the hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Throw the bum out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I thought this was going to be quiz about "Pop." Why are there all these comments about tossing a gun around Coffinmaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Pretty darn close to unsafe gun handling. If I were TO I think I would tell shooter to not do that again. My son was showing me his new 1911. He removed mag, ejected round from chamber then caught it in mid air. Even though I knew gun was empty, I told him I thought it was unsafe gun handling. This is pretty much the same in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Wyatt,,, going for another black star? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackey Cole Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Bad habit to get in to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Deck 100366 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Pretty darn close to unsafe gun handling. If I were TO I think I would tell shooter to not do that again. My son was showing me his new 1911. He removed mag, ejected round from chamber then caught it in mid air. Even though I knew gun was empty, I told him I thought it was unsafe gun handling. This is pretty much the same in my book. Not sure why this would be unsafe. watch a few USPSA or IDPA matches and you'll see lots of shooters do this at the end of a stage. Then again, the top shooters are usually the only ones that make it on to the television. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 No call this time - save the penalty for when it bites the shooter. Don't penalize preemptively, or based on intent. Penalize on "what happened" Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sam, SASS #10915 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 No call. A border shift would be a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waimea Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I actually caught myself doing this ONCE. I never did it again. Skeerd me so bad. I think it's a no call that will eventually be an SDQ when they miss. Waimea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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