Deadeye Doug Dalton SASS#65449L Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Putin is flexing his muscles because of western sanctions over Ukraine. http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/13/world/europe/russia-bombers-plan/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Balz, SASS#46599 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 And...he knows that the dope in the White House won't raise an eyebrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I did not like John Kennedy but we sure could use him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry T Harrison Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 And you don't think we do it every day to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Anybody (most definitely including us) can fly in international airspace. Just like they can operate ships in international waters. Nothing new, except that Russia will be straining its budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I believe it is called "STIRRING THE POT"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Everybody in Pensacola wave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 The bombers are annoying. The nuclear subs are a threat. I agree with John Adams philosophy...keep the Navy strong! disclaimer: I am not a veteran, I respect all branches of the armed forces. I just sleep better knowing the submarines are out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocWard Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I seem to recall reading that the USSR did that during the Cold War. If I remember correctly, it was in an article about George W. Bush's years as a pilot in the Texas Air National Guard, and the fact that part of their mission was intercepting the bombers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Maybe the bombers will get in the way of a surface to air missile test....ooops. GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 And...he knows that the dope in the White House won't raise an eyebrow Indeed. GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocWard Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I was close. The article discusses G.W. Bush and the F-102. http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/q0185.shtml One of the primary ANG units to receive the F-102 was the 111th Fighter Interceptor Squadron (FIS) at Ellington Air National Guard Station, which operated the aircraft from 1960 through 1974. These planes were given responsibility for patrolling the Texas Gulf Coast and intercepting Soviet aircraft based in Cuba that regularly flew off the US shore to test American defenses. The 111th was and still is part of the 147th Fighter Wing in Houston, Texas. It was here that George W. Bush was stationed following his enlistment in May 1968. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 And you don't think we do it every day to them I'm sure we do but how close do we get to Russia's mainland? (That's a legit question I really don't know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 And you don't think we do it every day to them SO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry T Harrison Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 SO?Then why should we comlain when they return the favor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Balz, SASS#46599 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Then why should we comlain when they return the favor? Because we 're AMERICANS and we can , WE built the SR-71. , we been kicking ass for almost 240 years and the present administration not with standing we 're still the GREATEST nation in history !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Because we 're AMERICANS and we can , WE built the SR-71. , we been kicking ass for almost 240 years and the present administration not with standing we 're still the GREATEST nation in history !! + Infinity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocWard Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Because we 're AMERICANS and we can , WE built the SR-71. , we been kicking ass for almost 240 years and the present administration not with standing we 're still the GREATEST nation in history !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 And you don't think we do it every day to them That's beside the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry T Harrison Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Because we 're AMERICANS and we can , WE built the SR-71. , we been kicking ass for almost 240 years and the present administration not with standing we 're still the GREATEST nation in history !!I'm not arguing that point but they have as much right to fly in international air space as we do and we fly off their boarders every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry T Harrison Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 That's beside the point.And why would that be beside the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 And why would that be beside the point What we are doing to keep the Russians in check is not the discussion. John Kerry proclaimed the Monroe Doctrine over. Now the Chinese and Russians are in our back yard. This is not in our best interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Anybody (most definitely including us) can fly in international airspace. Just like they can operate ships in international waters. Nothing new, except that Russia will be straining its budget. The one thing Russia has is fuel. Now does it have the skill to keep its bomber fleet in the air? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seldom Seen #16162 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Are they the TU-95 codenamed SBT? General characteristics Crew: 6–7; pilot, co pilot, flight engineer, communications system operator, navigator, tail gunner plus sometimes another navigator. Length: 46.2 m (151 ft 6 in) Wingspan: 50.10 m (164 ft 5 in) Height: 12.12 m (39 ft 9 in) Wing area: 310 m² (3,330 ft²) Empty weight: 90,000 kg (198,000 lb) Loaded weight: 171,000 kg (376,200 lb) Max. takeoff weight: 188,000 kg (414,500 lb) Powerplant: 4 × Kuznetsov NK-12M turboprops, 11,000 kW (14,800 shp)[ each Performance Maximum speed: 920 km/h (510 knots, 575 mph) Range: 15,000 km (8,100 nmi, 9,400 mi) unrefueled Service ceiling: 13,716 m (45,000 ft) Rate of climb: 10 m/s (2,000 ft/min) Wing loading: 606 kg/m² (124 lb/ft²) Power/mass: 235 W/kg (0.143 hp/lb) Armament Radar-controlled Guns: 1 or 2 × 23 mm AM-23 autocannon in tail turret. Missiles: Up to 15,000 kg (33,000 lb), including the Raduga Kh-20, Kh-22, and Kh-55/101/102 Air-to-surface missiles. You know the name for SBT...SLOW BIG TARGET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Then why should we comlain when they return the favor? It's part of the game. We've been playing it for 70 years or longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/11/13/russian-defense-ministry-says-bomber-patrols-will-reach-gulf-mexico/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugs Bonney SASS # 10171 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Yawn, Those old Bear turboprop bombers are not much of a threat. They give our fighter jocks something to practice interceptions on and keep the radar guys at the peak of efficiency. Nothing like a bogey on the screen to liven up an otherwise boring shift. Those of us old enough to remember the 50's and 60's know we have been playing this game with the Russians since the end of WW2. Putin is sending a message, unfortunately the lights are on at the White House but nobody is home to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kajun Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I remember when the Russians had missiles in Cuba in 1962. I lived about 30 miles north of the Gulf of Mexico in Lake Charles LA. After the missiles arrived in Cuba we got an air raid siren installed in the neutral ground 4 houses down the street from our house and started the drills in the elementary school where I attended. I don't know how stable the political situation is now in Cuba with Castro's failing health; I just hope that the US doesn't take it's eye off the ball concerning that situation. It's be a bad day at Black Rock if the Russians get nuclear capable missiles back into Cuba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 When you're out in the Gulf And you're buzzed by a Bear And you're frankly surprised that they're still in the air Just flip them the bird and wish them good luck And roll out a banner that says "PUTIN SUCKS" Those turbopro geezers Ain't much of a threat I'd be surprised if the crew don't get wet If they get a bit frisky They might get a dose Of lead from that Eagle that's following close So fear not, compadres They're just paying games I'm not worried that we're gonna go up in flames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 We ran our B52's through Canadian Airspace over the pole to the edge of Russian airspace. He can only run his bombers to the edge of Canadian airspace and who the Hell is going to be impressed by that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Because we 're AMERICANS and we can , WE built the SR-71. , we been kicking ass for almost 240 years and the present administration not with standing we 're still the GREATEST nation in history !! Yeeee HAW - yessir!! GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugs Bonney SASS # 10171 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 With a range of 9400 miles unrefueled, I wonder where they are going to fly them out of. Do they plan to fly out of Russia and refuel them in the air? That's doable but to have any loiter time to "patrol" those are going to be really long missions. Do they plan to base them in Cuba?, Shades of 1962 except this time we don't have any leadership that will do anything about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 With a range of 9400 miles unrefueled, I wonder where they are going to fly them out of. Do they plan to fly out of Russia and refuel them in the air? That's doable but to have any loiter time to "patrol" those are going to be really long missions. Do they plan to base them in Cuba?, Shades of 1962 except this time we don't have any leadership that will do anything about it. ... could also be Venezuela, Nicaragua http://thediplomat.com/2014/02/russia-says-its-building-naval-bases-in-asia-latin-america/ GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudgeBagodonuts Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I'm sure we do but how close do we get to Russia's mainland? (That's a legit question I really don't know) Sarah Palin says she can see Russia from her front porch... We run our patrols close to, but not over, Russian air space. Our high altitude hypersonic reconnaissance aircraft, like the SR71, fly right over. We'll also send drones over to get a look at stuff relatively close to the borders, since they can fly low enough to avoid radar. The Russians have been "patrolling" the Caribbean for decades. The only thing that's changed here is that Putin is beating his chest about it to make his countrymen think he's a tough guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Sarah Palin says she can see Russia from her front porch... We run our patrols close to, but not over, Russian air space. Our high altitude hypersonic reconnaissance aircraft, like the SR71, fly right over. We'll also send drones over to get a look at stuff relatively close to the borders, since they can fly low enough to avoid radar. The Russians have been "patrolling" the Caribbean for decades. The only thing that's changed here is that Putin is beating his chest about it to make his countrymen think he's a tough guy. Uh - no: http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/russia.asp GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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