Marshal Flint Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 Hi, I am just getting back into SASS and I just wanted to make sure that Coated Bullets are allowed before I start reloading a bunch. I rifled through the rules and I must have missed it. Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Marshal Flint
The Rainmaker, SASS #11631 Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 Polymer and moly coated are just fine. Scarlett sells a mean little red polymer bullet!
Marshal Flint Posted January 17, 2020 Author Posted January 17, 2020 I am looking at Acme Coated Bullets The 45 Colt 200 RNFP coated bullet is hard cast with 92-6-2 certified alloy and is then coated with HI-Tek Coating and heat cured. The coating and heat curing process is done 3 times to ensure consistency.
McCandless Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 REVOLVER AND RIFLE AMMUNITION - Moly-Disulfide, polymer coated bullets, or equivalents are acceptable. SHB Vers 24.1 pg 27
The Rainmaker, SASS #11631 Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 Don't know how hard that is compared to most "Cowboy" bullets but "hard cast" is not really needed for the steel ringin' we do. Hi-Tek coating is great though; many use it.
Marshal Flint Posted January 17, 2020 Author Posted January 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, McCandless said: REVOLVER AND RIFLE AMMUNITION - Moly-Disulfide, polymer coated bullets, or equivalents are acceptable. SHB Vers 24.1 pg 27 Thank you! I will make a note of it
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 That (92-6-2) is a hard alloy, comes in at about 16 Brinnell hardness. The poly coating will help make the bullet fit the grooves of the barrel well enough, that you should not get the normal problems with gas-cutting leading that an uncoated hard lead bullet will cause with our very low (target load) type velocities. That 92-6-2 alloy was developed to be about the lowest cost alloy that would handle magnum pistol velocities (1400 FPS) and lower rifle velocities (up to about 1600 FPS), so it's rather a bit of overkill for cowboy shooting. Casters use it because it is "pretty close" for a wide range of pistol applications, and it sure ships well, even when bullets are dump-packed in a box. Good luck, GJ
Marshal Flint Posted January 17, 2020 Author Posted January 17, 2020 Thank you everyone for your help I really appreciate that
Tequila Shooter Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 @Marshal Flint what caliber are you loading?
Marshal Flint Posted January 17, 2020 Author Posted January 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Tequila Chase said: @Marshal Flint what caliber are you loading? .45 Colt
Tequila Shooter Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 There are lots of suppliers for .45's. If you go to a big match there'll be vendors who are also SASS shooters. Try Bullets by Scarlett she'll have everything you'll need and then some. Keep your powder dry and have fun.
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 24 minutes ago, Marshal Flint said: Thank you everyone for your help I really appreciate that Coated bullets also keep your dies clean. OLG
Dude Slade Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Marshal Flint said: I am looking at Acme Coated Bullets The 45 Colt 200 RNFP coated bullet is hard cast with 92-6-2 certified alloy and is then coated with HI-Tek Coating and heat cured. The coating and heat curing process is done 3 times to ensure consistency. These are the exact bullets I've been shooting exclusively since last fall. They're great... you can't go wrong with these. I load them over 5.5 grains of Trail Boss. You can get the same bullets from Bullets by Scarlett, and help out a fellow cowgirl at the same time.
Mustang Gregg Posted January 17, 2020 Posted January 17, 2020 Just so they ain't "coated" with another metal, like copper!! MG
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted January 18, 2020 Posted January 18, 2020 11 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Coated bullets also keep your dies clean. OLG and your hands cleaner too
Marshal Flint Posted January 18, 2020 Author Posted January 18, 2020 Thank you all for your input and help!
Attica Jack #23953 Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 I switched over to Hi-tec coated bullets last year for everything I reload for. Cowboy 44 mags, 45/70 Sharps, and 45 ACP. I use ACME bullets, but there are several other companies that make them. The thing I like most about them is you don't have all the lube to clean off of your reloading dies, after a reload session. They are supposed to give a few more FPS and your ammo, and cut down on leading. I don't really care about getting a few more FPS from my loads, and leading has never been a problem. Try them...you will not be sorry. They do have a different smell when shot.
Dusty Devil Dale Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 On 1/17/2020 at 9:18 AM, The Rainmaker, SASS #11631 said: Don't know how hard that is compared to most "Cowboy" bullets but "hard cast" is not really needed for the steel ringin' we do. Hi-Tek coating is great though; many use it. I have a Uberti '73 that just doesn't like coated bullets. Sometimes they stick while Chambering and at other times, they fail to withdraw under extractor tension, causing jambs. The same gun handles uncoated lead just fine. So before buying a huge bunch, I'd seriously recommend making a small order, or borrowing from a friend and working some through YOUR guns, to be sure.
Attica Jack #23953 Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 Dusty Devil Dale That seems like a strange problem while using Hi-tec coated bullets. Are you using some home made hi-tec bullets? The ones I use you can't even scratch the coating off with your finger nail......just seems odd.
COLORADO JACKSON Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 18 hours ago, Dusty Devil Dale said: I have a Uberti '73 that just doesn't like coated bullets. Sometimes they stick while Chambering and at other times, they fail to withdraw under extractor tension, causing jambs. The same gun handles uncoated lead just fine. So before buying a huge bunch, I'd seriously recommend making a small order, or borrowing from a friend and working some through YOUR guns, to be sure. It’s not the bullet, it’s the gun
Sedalia Dave Posted January 20, 2020 Posted January 20, 2020 20 hours ago, Dusty Devil Dale said: I have a Uberti '73 that just doesn't like coated bullets. Sometimes they stick while Chambering and at other times, they fail to withdraw under extractor tension, causing jambs. The same gun handles uncoated lead just fine. So before buying a huge bunch, I'd seriously recommend making a small order, or borrowing from a friend and working some through YOUR guns, to be sure. Where are you getting these bullets and what caliber?
Smokin Gator SASS #29736 Posted January 20, 2020 Posted January 20, 2020 There are powder coated bullets out there that are different then then the hi tek coating.
Sedalia Dave Posted January 20, 2020 Posted January 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Smokin Gator SASS #29736 said: There are powder coated bullets out there that are different then then the hi tek coating. I know several people that powder coat their own bullets with supplies bought from Harbor Freight and none of them have any issues. The caveat is that you have to do the job properly. If you don't then the entire process is a waste of time.
Dusty Devil Dale Posted January 20, 2020 Posted January 20, 2020 11 hours ago, Attica Jack #23953 said: Dusty Devil Dale That seems like a strange problem while using Hi-tec coated bullets. Are you using some home made hi-tec bullets? The ones I use you can't even scratch the coating off with your finger nail......just seems odd. This particular gun is a Uberti-Baretta 1873 replica. It is unusually tight in the chamber, which makes it sensitive to poly coatings, as well as bullet crimp. The slightest burr left on a round, or banana bend stops bullets from chambering smoothly, which slows things down, and sometimes they even jamb solidly, requiring a squib rod. I've tried coated bullets from several prominent commercial sources (prefer not to name them here). It isn't the bullets that cause the problem, it is the gun.
Cat Brules Posted January 20, 2020 Posted January 20, 2020 I suggest that you get a knowledgable gunsmith to polish the chamber of your weapon. Cat Brules
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