Griff 1,529 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: Than you don't agree with my statement... Okay. You didn't read my quote of Shooting Bull where I said I do...? T'was literally, the post right above the one you quoted... And the very reason I made a couple of written suggestions to avoid future confusion. 32 minutes ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said: Howdy Bull and Griff. I can see exactly what you both mean. But, I don't see the word 'THEN' in the original thread that started this discussion. I think my recent post using the method I listed would fit the requirements of those instructions. BUT, I agree that once the word 'THEN' is interjected, my listed method would no longer be valid. I also like Phantoms latest post. And I like my definition because it now gives even greater creativity to the shooter..... Y'all have a good evening. I think I'm gonna work on some 3D plans for a few new 97's..... ..........Widder Widder, I may have to retract my earlier assessment. As one of the uses of the comma is to replace the "and" in a sentence when two things of equal importance are listed and make sense in either order... However, don't most folks usually place more import on the first in reading the list. i.e., the first thing listed needs to be accomplished first? As I said in my post at the top of pg 13, (really 13 pages!), it would be clearer if the stages instructions had been "...in any order, triple tap the three targets and place the 10th shot on center." But, if we were to expect either stage writers or our fellow shooters to follow or understand the rules of punctuation and/or grammar, we'd be in serious trouble. I have one of those degrees where besides being a teacher, I'm qualified to ask, 'do you want fries with your burger'? And, I have trouble both writing clear, concise, grammatically correct sentences... and like most stage writers, I like to use the fewest words necessary to convey the basic form of the stage flow I desire. But, then again, I like to see what the cowboy action shooter can interpret from my scenario... Occam's Razor (the simplest answer is often the best answer). But, I must wish you all a good evening, I have to begin my work day @ 2am... and I need my beauty sleep... Link to post Share on other sites
Hoss 1,169 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 So how many MDs will be incorporating this scenario at their next match?!!! Link to post Share on other sites
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 1,104 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 It's far too silly. Link to post Share on other sites
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L 4,854 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 On 9/10/2018 at 9:33 PM, PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L said: I'll see if I can get a consensus from the ROC...at this point, my personal opinion would be just that; not representing the ROC. Given the local/regional variations of any "stage convention" for such a scenario, I'm thinking that a specifically written stage instruction re engagement options would be advised. The general consensus opinion of the ROC members who responded to the inquiry sent out for a ruling on the OP is to: Leave it up to individual clubs to handle definitions of sweeps & target engagements on the local level by their own "conventions"; with a recommendation to cover any questions regarding possible variations within the written stage instructions or during posse walk-throughs to ensure consistency. Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom, SASS #54973 4,686 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said: It's far too silly. What's too silly?? Folks, forget about the stage writing. We're are smart enough to know that this specific issue could have been avoided with some clarity on the stage writing. The question has to do with how one defines a multi tap. To the best of knowledge there are two definitions. Would be nice to come to a consensus on what the definition should be. I for one will live with whichever one is chosen. Phantom Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Dog Jack, SASS #77862 117 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L said: The general consensus opinion of the ROC members who responded to the inquiry sent out for a ruling on the OP is to: Leave it up to individual clubs to handle definitions of sweeps & target engagements on the local level by their own "conventions"; with a recommendation to cover any questions regarding possible variations within the written stage instructions or during posse walk-throughs to ensure consistency. i have followed this from the start, and the only thing I can say is "amen!" Link to post Share on other sites
Widder, SASS #59054 7,629 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Thank You PWB and ROC. ..........Widder Link to post Share on other sites
Tennessee williams 2,374 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Told yall I was right Link to post Share on other sites
Griff 1,529 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 'Tis actually a Supreme Court type of non-decision, in which no one is "right" or "wrong"... Thanks for asking PWB. Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom, SASS #54973 4,686 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 6 hours ago, Griff said: 'Tis actually a Supreme Court type of non-decision, in which no one is "right" or "wrong"... Thanks for asking PWB. Of course no one was right or wrong. It's a question of definition. Arguments that focuses on interpreting subtle sentence structure elements of a stage makes mockery of our game. Phantom Link to post Share on other sites
Shooting Bull 1,960 Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 9 hours ago, Tennessee williams said: Told yall I was right Dangit! I knew I should have checked this thread one more time before going to bed. You beat me by THAT much. Now to make PWBs prediction come true and carry on for two or three more pages. Link to post Share on other sites
Shooting Bull 1,960 Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 Many thanks to Pale Wolf and the rules committee. You’ve handed down a perfectly reasonable (and predictable) decision. Link to post Share on other sites
Marshal Chance Morgun 1,055 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 The End! NEXT SHOOTER Link to post Share on other sites
Tennessee williams 2,374 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 So...peanut butter and jelly sammiches. My wife made me 3 of them the other day. I had to throw one of them away cause she didn't put the jelly on top. Everybody knows the jelly goes on top of a pb and j sammich to get the right consistency. Link to post Share on other sites
Shooting Bull 1,960 Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, Tennessee williams said: So...peanut butter and jelly sammiches. My wife made me 3 of them the other day. I had to throw one of them away cause she didn't put the jelly on top. Everybody knows the jelly goes on top of a pb and j sammich to get the right consistency. Uggggg. Just when I think you couldn’t be any more wrong. You buy them pre-mixed. THAT is consistency. Link to post Share on other sites
Tennessee williams 2,374 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, Shooting Bull said: Uggggg. Just when I think you couldn’t be any more wrong. You buy them pre-mixed. THAT is consistency. Wrong again. Those are not meant to put on a sammich. You eat that outta the jar! Hahahaha Link to post Share on other sites
Shooting Bull 1,960 Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 Hmmmmm......We may have stumbled upon some common ground. Link to post Share on other sites
Tennessee williams 2,374 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 I thought I was the only one, ha! Link to post Share on other sites
Rex M Rugers #6621 334 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, Shooting Bull said: Hmmmmm......We may have stumbled upon some common ground. Shooting Bull , STUMBLE !!! Say it ain't so. Rex , who did not read 14 pages of nitpicking. Link to post Share on other sites
Shooting Bull 1,960 Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 6 hours ago, Rex M Rugers #6621 said: Shooting Bull , STUMBLE !!! Say it ain't so. Rex , who did not read 14 pages of nitpicking. Freaudian SLIP Link to post Share on other sites
Ramblin Gambler 1,334 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 On 9/20/2018 at 7:55 AM, Griff said: I not sure, but didn't the stage call for triple taps before the single round? Nope. It was “Triple tap targets in any order, put tenth shot on center target.” But I think shooting bull later admitted he might have omitted connecting words. In the stage I shot, i think it was almost the same but said "with the 10th shot shoot the center target" At least that's what I recall. I could probably find the description but I'm way too lazy. Link to post Share on other sites
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 1,104 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 And now for something completely different... A man with Never mind Link to post Share on other sites
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