Southern Drifter Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Does anyone know how the new 2018 California Ammo laws are going to affect us? Link to comment
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, Southern Drifter said: Does anyone know how the new 2018 California Ammo laws are going to affect us? I don't mean this in a sarcastic way, but what do you mean .... "US"? Is some new ammo law gonna effect our CA pards? ..........Widder Link to comment
Cliff Hanger #3720LR Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 May be talking about this law . . https://crossarmory.com/californias-ammo-laws-jan-2018/ Link to comment
Big Sage, SASS #49891 Life Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 The only thing I can see is the part about "importing" ammo to California from out of state. I suppose if you are coming into California to attend a shoot this might be of some concern because you are probably transporting ammo for your use shooting. Link to comment
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Does not affect the mail order or OTC purchase of components. Only applies to 'fixed' ammo. And stops mail order of it. Don't know how the new law applies to visiting competitors. GOOD QUESTION........... OLG Link to comment
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Well.... That'll sure take a bite outta crime, eh...? Link to comment
Southern Drifter Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 7 hours ago, Widowmaker Hill SASS #59054 said: I don't mean this in a sarcastic way, but what do you mean .... "US"? Is some new ammo law gonna effect our CA pards? ..........Widder I spend the winter months in Riverside County, California. I am a SASS (103526) and CFDA (3578) member. I hope to join the Cowboys this winter. I am loading enough for Jan, Feb and Mar. I also shoot my 1911 (45) at the Riverside Magnum Range weekly but that is not Sass or CFDA. I just want to make sure I don't break any laws and lose my guns. Link to comment
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 NOW are you folks ready to get the hell out of California? Link to comment
Southern Drifter Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Big Sage, SASS #49891 Life said: The only thing I can see is the part about "importing" ammo to California from out of state. I suppose if you are coming into California to attend a shoot this might be of some concern because you are probably transporting ammo for your use shooting. Yep. It's got me worried. I'm bring a few rounds. I usually buy ammo from LAX Ammo in bulk for my wife's 380 and my 1911, 45. Plus, I bring my SASS and CFDA guns. Southern Drifter #103526 Link to comment
Southern Drifter Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Cliff Hanger #3720LR said: May be talking about this law . . https://crossarmory.com/californias-ammo-laws-jan-2018/ Yes . I think that is the one that worries me. Link to comment
Eyesa Horg Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 How do they come up with this sorta crap? Glad to be livin' in Vermont! Link to comment
Sedalia Dave Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 50 minutes ago, Eyesa Horg said: How do they come up with this sorta crap? Glad to be livin' in Vermont! Apathy by gun owners that don't think it can happen to them. Link to comment
El Hombre Sin Nombre Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: NOW are you folks ready to get the hell out of California? Never Link to comment
Utah Bob #35998 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 31 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said: Apathy by gun owners that don't think it can happen to them. Not apathy at all. The urban anti gun areas have the numbers to get this crap passed. Link to comment
Big Sage, SASS #49891 Life Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: NOW are you folks ready to get the hell out of California? Retired from SoCal and left for SW Colorado 17 years ago! Link to comment
Sedalia Dave Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 22 minutes ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Not apathy at all. The urban anti gun areas have the numbers to get this crap passed. If you look at the number of voters that turned out in support of these laws, the anti-gunners could have been easily outvoted had gun owners taken a little imitative. I cannot find the exact post but SDJ once posted the numbers. Link to comment
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 'Tain't so, Dave. Bob is spot-on. I live in one of the most conservative areas of the state, and I've seen the voter registration rolls - almost evenly split, R/D. And we're sparsely populated. When people say "San Francisco and Los Angeles rule the state" they are correct. I could say much more, but do not wish to be censured. Link to comment
Sedalia Dave Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 10 minutes ago, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said: 'Tain't so, Dave. Bob is spot-on. I live in one of the most conservative areas of the state, and I've seen the voter registration rolls - almost evenly split, R/D. And we're sparsely populated. When people say "San Francisco and Los Angeles rule the state" they are correct. I could say much more, but do not wish to be censured. I stand corrected. The report I read was about the 2014 elections when about 25% voted in the primaries and about 42% voted in the general elections. Because of the hotly contested presidential election, 2016 experienced one of the largest voter turn outs in California history. On average if you look at the numbers for most of the country, voter turn out is abysmal unless it is a presidential election and even then some years are embarrassing. One local election here a few years ago had a significant property tax bond that would have directly benefited a private children's organization greatly. Less than 2% of registered voters actually bothered to vote and the measure passed mostly because it was marketed as a way to help the poor under privileged kids . Fortunately a few concerned citizens took the county to court and had the bond measure invalidated as it violated local laws. Link to comment
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Southern Drifter said: I spend the winter months in Riverside County, California. I am a SASS (1032526) and CFDA (3578) member. I hope to join the Cowboys this winter. I am loading enough for Jan, Feb and Mar. I also shoot my 1911 (45) at the Riverside Magnum Range weekly but that is not Sass or CFDA. I just want to make sure I don't break any laws and lose my guns. That SASS number had me shocked until I noticed that it was wrong. Link to comment
CurlyDrew42 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Does the actual law say anything about reloading supplies? Link to comment
Yul Lose Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 40 minutes ago, CurlyDrew42 said: Does the actual law say anything about reloading supplies? No. Link to comment
Subdeacon Joe Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Utah Bob #35998 said: Not apathy at all. The urban anti gun areas have the numbers to get this crap passed. It's a little bit of both. In the last general election Prop. 63 passed roughly 5,000,000 to 3,000,000 (that out of about 18,000,000 registered voters). CA has an estimated 8,000,000 gun owners. Think of the impact we could have if even half of us called or wrote our elected representatives a few times a month. Link to comment
Southern Drifter Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 3 hours ago, Redwood Kid said: Never I retired The Boeing Company at Long Beach 10 years. My children and grandchildren are still there. That's the only reason I go back. Link to comment
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 4 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said: Apathy by gun owners that don't think it can happen to them. WRONG-We are outnumbered....... Snowflake pansies, run the show here. OLG Link to comment
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 39 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: WRONG-We are outnumbered....... Snowflake pansies, run the show here. OLG "Snowflake Pansies?" O come now, Lumpy... you can do better than that! Link to comment
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said: "Snowflake Pansies?" O come now, Lumpy... you can do better than that! Oh heck ya ...........................But, I want to keep my forum post'n privileges. I also don't want to give Allie the 'vapors'.......... OLG Link to comment
Eyesa Horg Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 5 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said: Apathy by gun owners that don't think it can happen to them. I do believe you hit the nail on the head. Link to comment
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Talk about armchair quarterbacking.... Link to comment
Henry T Harrison Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 One of the advantages of living in Pennsylvania is that our legislature is set up to keep the urban population from being dominant. There are as many rural districts as there are urban districts Link to comment
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 6 hours ago, Redwood Kid said: Never I'll pray for you. Link to comment
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 4 hours ago, Yul Lose said: No. How long until a new law will? Link to comment
Subdeacon Joe Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 3 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: WRONG-We are outnumbered....... Snowflake pansies, run the show here. OLG OK, let's take a look at the numbers. Say that in each Assembly district there are 15,000 gun owners. 80 districts, by 15,000 gives us 1,200,000 total, which is about 15% of the estimated number of gun owners in the State of California. Now, suppose that those 15,000 gun owners in each Assembly (or State Senate) district were to make just one phone call a week voicing their concerns, and each call took up three minutes of staff time. What is 15,000 x 3 minutes?? 45,000 minutes. Per week. That's 750 man-hours PER WEEK that the capons would have to come up with to deal with just this one subject. That is almost 19 man-days per week. If we all did our part, even just writing, figure that every letter, especially if you request a reply, would take up that same three minutes. If we make ourselves known, make our numbers felt, then we might be able to make some headway. But as long as 99 44/100 wail and moan that All Is Lost!!! then, yeah, all is lost. We need to become politically active and be heard as individuals. 8,000,000 individuals can make one hell of a roar if we all shout together. Link to comment
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, Henry T Harrison said: One of the advantages of living in Pennsylvania is that our legislature is set up to keep the urban population from being dominant. There are as many rural districts as there are urban districts 7 minutes ago, Henry T Harrison said: One of the advantages of living in Pennsylvania is that our legislature is set up to keep the urban population from being dominant. There are as many rural districts as there are urban districts What is the density of the districts? Unless they have maneuvered it so that all have an equal number of voters it doesn't mean anything., Link to comment
Henry T Harrison Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: What is the density of the districts? Unless they have maneuvered it so that all have an equal number of voters it doesn't mean anything., Each state Rep has the same vote so population density isn't important but yes each district has about the same population. Rural districts are geographically larger Link to comment
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