PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 ...but the double-violation for a single action IS a concern as well; that needs to be clarified at the same time to prevent any "overzealous" ROs from misinterpreting anything that is posted re: two SDQ penalties on the same stage. We're getting close to a consensus on this one...no dissenting votes so far, but haven't heard from everyone on the ROC (yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Annie SASS #37063 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Better not miss low at some of the shoots we have been too. We have shot targets that were closer than 10 feet away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Better not miss low at some of the shoots we have been too. We have shot targets that were closer than 10 feet away. Please note the listed exception regarding "expendable props"...targets within that same "zone" would fall under the same exception. 13. Any discharge that hits the ground or stage prop from five to ten feet from the shooter, while on the firing line, will result in a Stage Disqualification. Any discharge that hits the ground or stage prop less than five feet from the shooter while on the firing line, any discharge at the loading or unloading areas, any discharge off the firing line, or any discharge that is deemed unsafe will result in a Match Disqualification. Note: Match directors have the latitude to place props so shooters must negotiate them. In doing so, Match Directors may declare props expendable or shootable without penalty. RO1 p.16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Shooter has an AD and earns a Stage DQ. On his way to the unloading table he's flustered and sweeps the unloading table with his open and empty shotgun. Is there a call? If so, what is it? Forgive my lack of propriety and somewhat whimsical nature... but was just the unloading table swept? Invariably, as I put my broken open and cleared shotgun down onto the unloading table, there are a few miliseconds where the barrels point directly at the derned thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Forgive my lack of propriety and somewhat whimsical nature... but was just the unloading table swept? Invariably, as I put my broken open and cleared shotgun down onto the unloading table, there are a few miliseconds where the barrels point directly at the derned thing... Yep, while walking to the ULT, for about a second or two, he swept two folks standing at the unloading table....then the RO called "muzzles up." Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Yep, while walking to the ULT, for about a second or two, he swept two folks standing at the unloading table....then the RO called "muzzles up." Good luck, GJ Was kinda hopin' it was some sorta test... and folks had jumped to conclusions... Everyone can go back to awaiting the ROC decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missouri Marshal SASS #50682 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Better not miss low at some of the shoots we have been too. We have shot targets that were closer than 10 feet away. Steel targets closer than 10ft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Annie SASS #37063 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Absolutely. Fun matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Rock, SASS #44055 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Absolutely. Fun matches. Uh, no they are not, especially after digging a large hunk of lead out of your face because of a pistol knock down that was staged less than 10 feet away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 The following has been submitted for editing into the SHB/RO1 on this issue as a clarification: 4. Major safety infractions will result in the shooter’s Disqualification from the Stage or Match. “Major” infractions include: a dropped gun, a discharge that is unsafe or a discharge that impacts less than ten feet from the shooter, violation of the 170° safety rule, “sweeping” any person with the muzzle of a firearm, and similar acts that have high potential for personal injury. Committing two (or more) Stage DQ infractions will result in a Match DQ (even on the same stage). This does NOT apply to a single action that carries multiple penalties (e.g. breaking the 170º with an unloaded firearm & simultaneously sweeping someone). There are circumstances where a single Major Safety violation will result in a Match Disqualification. (See Addendum for listing of penalties.) RO1 p.21 MATCH DISQUALIFICATION • Two accumulated Stage Disqualification Penalties or Two Spirit of the Game assessments. RO1 p.25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curly Red Ryder Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Thank you Palewolf ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Fe River Stan,36999L Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Thanks PWB and the entire ROC. Stan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Most Wanted Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Thanks to Philly Slim for brining this up and to the intire ROC for making the call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Thanks ROC for your hard work and good judgment Do you think in the years to come receiving two SDQ's on one stage will be described as earning a "Philly Slim" Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooting Bull Posted March 10, 2015 Author Share Posted March 10, 2015 Thanks ROC for your hard work and good judgment Do you think in the years to come receiving two SDQ's on one stage will be described as earning a "Philly Slim" Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.................. Yikes. Anyone not familiar with this thread would think it was called that because I actually did get two SDQs on the same stage..............as if I'm not already infamous enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 It wasn't Philly Slim. And besides, doing a swan dive in the mud and water is already called 'doing a Philly Slim' he don't need anything else named after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Yikes. Anyone not familiar with this thread would think it was called that because I actually did get two SDQs on the same stage..............as if I'm not already infamous enough. I had already factored that in.................sometimes I have an Evil Streak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I had already factored that in.................sometimes I have an Evil Streak I'll make sure everyone knows that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying W Ramrod Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Yikes. Anyone not familiar with this thread would think it was called that because I actually did get two SDQs on the same stage..............as if I'm not already infamous enough. To quote the Three Amigos "Infamous, that means more than famous" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Jack, SASS #77862 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 It wasn't Philly Slim. And besides, doing a swan dive in the mud and water is already called 'doing a Philly Slim' he don't need anything else named after him. Well, I watched him do the Philly Stomp at Ridgecrest a few years back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooting Bull Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 Well, I watched him do the Philly Stomp at Ridgecrest a few years back Oh God, I thought that story had died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Jack, SASS #77862 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Old stories never die....the just fade away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Well, I watched him do the Philly Stomp at Ridgecrest a few years back Oh God, I thought that story had died. Not sure I have heard that one, please do tell it again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawd Awful Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Not sure I have heard that one, please do tell it again! I'm in the dark on this one as well. Someone spill the beans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Great solution. Resolves the ambiguity without opening up a different can of worms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooting Bull Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 Robbers Roost Vigilante's annual shoot in Ridgecrest, CA. One stage had a clay pigeon tosser that the shooter activated by stepping on a lever. As you both know I'm not exactly a small person. When I got up to start the stage it was jokingly asked if I needed help stepping on the release lever. Everybody laughed. I made it through the stage to the tosser, stomped as hard as I could on the lever and the whole darn thing simply fell over without tossing the bird. Thankfully I engaged the make-up target as everyone else on the posse was rolling on the ground in laughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace_of_Hearts Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Philly can't do the STOMP. Philly can do the FLOP...... There has got to be a song there somewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Jack, SASS #77862 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Yeeeeeha! He just stood there looking at the tosser....then remembered to get off the shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawd Awful Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Robbers Roost Vigilante's annual shoot in Ridgecrest, CA. One stage had a clay pigeon tosser that the shooter activated by stepping on a lever. As you both know I'm not exactly a small person. When I got up to start the stage it was jokingly asked if I needed help stepping on the release lever. Everybody laughed. I made it through the stage to the tosser, stomped as hard as I could on the lever and the whole darn thing simply fell over without tossing the bird. Thankfully I engaged the make-up target as everyone else on the posse was rolling on the ground in laughter. 😝😝😝 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother King, SASS #69031 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Robbers Roost Vigilante's annual shoot in Ridgecrest, CA. One stage had a clay pigeon tosser that the shooter activated by stepping on a lever. As you both know I'm not exactly a small person. When I got up to start the stage it was jokingly asked if I needed help stepping on the release lever. Everybody laughed. I made it through the stage to the tosser, stomped as hard as I could on the lever and the whole darn thing simply fell over without tossing the bird. Thankfully I engaged the make-up target as everyone else on the posse was rolling on the ground in laughter. Do you even lift, Bro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooting Bull Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 Do you even lift, Bro? Duuuuuuuude, how much can you bench press? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace_of_Hearts Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Just don't ask Philly to do anything that requires use of the legs! He ain't up to speed yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooting Bull Posted March 13, 2015 Author Share Posted March 13, 2015 Just don't ask Philly to do anything that requires use of the legs! He ain't up to speed yet! Hey now, I'd take on pretty much anybody here in a squat competition. (Brother King excluded) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Wise exclusion there Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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