Korupt Karl Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 When asked if legal guns, licensed to carry CCW....AMC's response: From: AMC Guest Services [mailto:AMCGuestServices@amctheatres.com] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 1:50 PM To: XXXXXXX Subject: AMC Theatres Dear XXXXXX, Thank you for your feedback regarding our no weapons policy. AMC has more than 350 theatres in the United States in 30 states and the District of Columbia. Many of the states we operate in have concealed carry laws. For the safety and security of our guests and associates, and as a family business, AMC feels the best way to protect our guests and associates is to have a uniform, standardized policy prohibiting weapons on our premises, and to post such policy. (In many states, we are required by law to post signage if we have a policy against bringing weapons on our property, hence the posting of signage at our theatres nationwide.) Please be assured that we evaluate our policies periodically, and your feedback will be included in our next review. The quality of your moviegoing experience—and your opinion of AMC Theatres—is important to us. Thanks again for contacting us. We look forward to seeing you at the movies. Sincerely, AMC Guest Services If this guy was choosing a place to shoot people with little worry of confrontation....look for a sign that prohibits CCW.....Just sayin. KK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache Hawk 60642 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Don't see many movies any more. Too damn expensive ! AMC Movie Theaters will not see my green yankee dollars any time UNTIL they RECOGNIZE MY 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHT ! Der is a few movie theaters dat DO allow canceled carry in 'em. When the wife and I go out courtin', we go to one of dem ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 If AMC Theaters has a policy against guns, then how did all this shooting take place? Maybe AMC Theaters should print the rule in CAPITAL LETTERS so all the criminals and wacos would adhere to it? Yea, that's the answer, CAPITAL LETTERS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Gun For Hire Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 So if ya have a CCW , how they gonna know, if it is concealed? I have a CCW and I carry. If needed I will use it to protect myself or anyone close to me in danger. Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Nathan C. Riddles, SASS # 7462 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 If AMC Theaters has a policy against guns, then how did all this shooting take place? Maybe AMC Theaters should print the rule in CAPITAL LETTERS so all the criminals and wacos would adhere to it? Yea, that's the answer, CAPITAL LETTERS. I hear ya Bob, & agree with you. FYI, the theater in CO was not owned by AMC, but Cinemark out of Plano, TX. Don't know if they're posted or not. We don't have any of those or AMC here. Our local theaters are not posted and I carry on the rare occasions that the wife & I go to the movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Smokepole #29248L Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 CONCEALED CARRY........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. I. Tarpicker, SASS #998 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I hear ya Bob, & agree with you. FYI, the theater in CO was not owned by AMC, but Cinemark out of Plano, TX. Don't know if they're posted or not. We don't have any of those or AMC here. Our local theaters are not posted and I carry on the rare occasions that the wife & I go to the movies. There's a Cinemark theater complex in San Angelo, TX. They have a "no guns" policy, but the signs they use do not have the wording required by Texas law, nor are the signs of the required size. -- GIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sloe Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 The mentality of the executives of these corporations that put a flat ban on weapons on their premises don't understand that a concealed carry holder would actually be making their establishment safer. There's one about a banker in Texas who'd been robbed several times. One day as he's walking into his bank he sees his "no weapons allowed" sign and the light bulb goes on. New sign goes up "highly encourage concealed carry holders ...". No more robberies. Gotta get going, Barry Sloe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 It's called 'concealed' for a reason....that's all I will say GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootin' Shu Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 So if ya have a CCW , how they gonna know, if it is concealed? I have a CCW and I carry. If needed I will use it to protect myself or anyone close to me in danger. Nuff said. exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Branch Louie Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 If I'm not mistaken, in North Carolina any place you pay for admission, CCW is prohibited. As I have seen discussed elsewhere, don't know how good of a shot you woulda had at him in the dark with lots of people around. But my personal opinion is that I should be able to carry anywhere I want to.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache Hawk 60642 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Whar I work, der all signs worded wrong and such and I do carry in da water time. But in da summertime, I can't carry cuz deer's not much place to "conceal a weapon ! When me and da Mizz's go out to paint da town red, I do carry, period ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish ike, SASS #43615 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 While the Constitution gives every citizen the "right to keep and bare arms", and you may have a permit that says you can carry a concealed weapon, any business has the right to manage their business anyway they want. As long as it complies with the law. We may not like it but they may believe that the comfort of the majority of the customers is more important than a few carrying concealed. Ike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tell Sackett SASS 18436 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 The AMC theatre we went to the last 2 weekends have the signs wrong, so we ignored them. If they ever get them right, we won't go there anymore. I have no plans to go ANYWHERE I have to be unarmed. Having said that, I BELIEVE that going on the premises with a correct sign is a misdemeanor. Being unarmed at the wrong place and time could be FATAL! If you gotta choose, which means more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Spurs Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Can you imagine the feeling of being caught up in a situation like that (or like the thing in Florida a couple days ago at the internet cafe) and having made the decision NOT to carry that particular evening? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Tracker Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 If you want to have a little fun with the manager and make your point at the same time, have a group large enough for at least 5 cars go to the theater at the same time. Park in different areas of the lot. At the end of the movie each of the drivers needs to ask to speak to the manager. Politely tell him that you are a concealed carry license holder but that since you are not allowed to carry in his theater you feel unsafe returning to your car in the dark and would like to be safely escorted back to it. If he refuses, tell him that if anything happens that you will hold him and his theater legally responsible. Under other circumstances, I have found that sometimes talking to managers politely doesn't work. Without yelling, screaming or being totally obnoxious, raise your sound level as if talking over background noise. This works especially well if there are other customers nearby. Sounding baffled that he doesn't see your point, you could start by saying, "You mean you don't care about your customers safety." and repeat your request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastmaster Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 If you want to have a little fun with the manager and make your point at the same time, have a group large enough for at least 5 cars go to the theater at the same time. Park in different areas of the lot. At the end of the movie each of the drivers needs to ask to speak to the manager. Politely tell him that you are a concealed carry license holder but that since you are not allowed to carry in his theater you feel unsafe returning to your car in the dark and would like to be safely escorted back to it. If he refuses, tell him that if anything happens that you will hold him and his theater legally responsible. Under other circumstances, I have found that sometimes talking to managers politely doesn't work. Without yelling, screaming or being totally obnoxious, raise your sound level as if talking over background noise. This works especially well if there are other customers nearby. Sounding baffled that he doesn't see your point, you could start by saying, "You mean you don't care about your customers safety." and repeat your request. A little fun? Sick!!! Managers of businesses other than their very owned business, vary rarely make up the policies. Headquarter does. Headquarter makes the policies and most are good and others are not so good. The poor manager you are having fun with is following the policy and procedures he was hired and expected to follow. Why would you intentionally put a person into that no win situation, just for grins and giggles? Second thought is: If you were carrying and came up to the door of the business and read the sign of no firearms allowed, then it is up to 'you' to decide to comply or not. If you did not feel safe w/o firearm, then turn around and go home. You would not need to be escorted by manager because you are already armed and still outside of the business. It is up to the CCW person to obey 'all' laws,,,,, or all but one, or none at all!!! Take responsibility for your own actions is my bottom line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastmaster Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Having said that, I BELIEVE that going on the premises with a correct sign is a misdemeanor. Being unarmed at the wrong place and time could be FATAL! If you gotta choose, which means more? I will not dispute the misdemeanor part,,,,just because I really don't know. I would venture a guess that if you were caught with a firearm in a no firearm allowed business, you would be asked to leave and if you did, then a no call.Business don't want the hassle either. Shame on the person that could not keep their Concealed firearm concealed. Federal buildings, schools, airports and such, that would be a different story and shame on you for trying to enter with firearm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 In Florida (other than Federal/State specified CCW prohibited places) the worst the establishment can do is ask you to leave. If you don't leave, you may/can be charged with "armed trespass". It's not just AMC Theaters that have anti-gun policies. Malls, medical facilities, eateries, office buildings and so on occasionaly have signs also. It's either heed the signs or not. CS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 In Georgia where we cling to our guns and religion, the store can post whatever they want on the door. There is no law requiring the CCW holder to abide by it. The store management or security can ask you to leave for most any reason, including carrying a firearm. They can ask you to leave for wearing green tennis shoes if they want. If you refuse to leave after being asked, then you get into a criminal trespass situation. Georgia also makes no distinction between loaded and unloaded, concealed and open carry. If your carrying a pistol, your carrying a pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tell Sackett SASS 18436 Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Blastmaster- why shouldn't I be safe at a school, federal building, hospital, etc??? I am not the threat. Criminals are. Disarming law abiding people makes NO ONE safe, except criminals, dictators, and their ilk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Here is a better translation of that chains policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother King, SASS #69031 Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 It's either heed the signs or not. CS SIGNS? What signs? There are so many signs that I'm sure I must have missed it. CONCEALED... really, if you're reading this then you're most probably over 35, might be over 40 and may be well into your next 50. When was the last time you were actually frisked? For what? Seriously, if you have read about more than one GUN FREE ZONE masacre since the last time you were frisked for ANYTHING let alone weapons then you may want to take a serious, pragmatic approach to probablilities. It could mean the difference between life and death. To those who say that they couldn't have done anything because the theatre was dark....uhhhhh.... seems that the perpetrator was able to kill 12 and wound many more.... PUUUUUUHHHHHLEEEEEEZEEEEE.... let's all resolve to just stop being victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastmaster Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Blastmaster- why shouldn't I be safe at a school, federal building, hospital, etc??? I am not the threat. Criminals are. Disarming law abiding people makes NO ONE safe, except criminals, dictators, and their ilk. Good Day TTS, There are places that by current Federal/State laws, do not allow private citizens to carry legally. If you do, then you have broken the law and subject to whatever legal action the authorities hand down. Most if not all Federal buildings, United States Post Offices, courts rooms, and public schools are on the list, there are others. Best you get familiar with locations so you can make an informed decision. Going into an airport with a concealed gun,may be allowed, but with current concerns about airport security, hijacking, 911 event, terrorist activity and such, plus all the screening, police and cameras, it wouldn't be real wise to carry, unless you want to be taken away and questioned . Just my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 If you want to have a little fun with the manager and make your point at the same time, have a group large enough for at least 5 cars go to the theater at the same time. Park in different areas of the lot. At the end of the movie each of the drivers needs to ask to speak to the manager. Politely tell him that you are a concealed carry license holder but that since you are not allowed to carry in his theater you feel unsafe returning to your car in the dark and would like to be safely escorted back to it. If he refuses, tell him that if anything happens that you will hold him and his theater legally responsible. Under other circumstances, I have found that sometimes talking to managers politely doesn't work. Without yelling, screaming or being totally obnoxious, raise your sound level as if talking over background noise. This works especially well if there are other customers nearby. Sounding baffled that he doesn't see your point, you could start by saying, "You mean you don't care about your customers safety." and repeat your request. If I was the manager I'd smile and decline your request. I don`t know you and sure wouldn`t be accompanying you out into the parking lot. I`d give you the number my higher-up and return to my manager duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 SIGNS? What signs? There are so many signs that I'm sure I must have missed it. CONCEALED... really, if you're reading this then you're most probably over 35, might be over 40 and may be well into your next 50. When was the last time you were actually frisked? For what? Seriously, if you have read about more than one GUN FREE ZONE masacre since the last time you were frisked for ANYTHING let alone weapons then you may want to take a serious, pragmatic approach to probablilities. It could mean the difference between life and death. To those who say that they couldn't have done anything because the theatre was dark....uhhhhh.... seems that the perpetrator was able to kill 12 and wound many more.... PUUUUUUHHHHHLEEEEEEZEEEEE.... let's all resolve to just stop being victims. I couldn't agree more. BTW, last time I was frisked was 1982 (not gonna tell ya why) and I'm past 50. Sun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 I couldn't agree more. BTW, last time I was frisked was 1982 (not gonna tell ya why) and I'm past 50. Sun My wife "frisked" me just the other day. But nobody else has since police academy training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Under other circumstances, I have found that sometimes talking to managers politely doesn't work. Without yelling, screaming or being totally obnoxious, raise your sound level as if talking over background noise. This works especially well if there are other customers nearby. Sounding baffled that he doesn't see your point, you could start by saying, "You mean you don't care about your customers safety." and repeat your request. And at that time the Mgr calls the "Po-Po" cause your being an arse and cause'n trouble.... LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastmaster Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 So, how many have recently (last 30 days or sooner?) practiced with their primary, secondary and/or thirdary self defense firearm? Since the Aurora theater mass shooting, how soon will you practice with your primary self defense gun? If you have, approximate how many rounds in the practice session(s)? I have,,,,,practiced several times the month before the Aurora theater shooting and have since. Blastmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Good Day TTS, Going into an airport with a concealed gun,may be allowed Just my view. It's NOT for CCW folks. OK for most LEOs. LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastmaster Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 My wife "frisked" me just the other day. But nobody else has since police academy training. Did she find a dead....ly weapon???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastmaster Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 It's NOT for CCW folks. OK for most LEOs. LG I hear ya.... Holds true for the general public area??? Such as the ticket counter and backwards toward curb?? Parking lot area??? I have no idea, but do not want to test those waters. Thank you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 IIRC, from the edge of the airport property. Check FFA regs. LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastmaster Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 IIRC, from the edge of the airport property. Check FFA regs. LG thank you,,, So where is airport property?,,,,, generally speaking? Close in Parking lots? You are welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korupt Karl Posted July 22, 2012 Author Share Posted July 22, 2012 ....and be aware. Some airports are good with CCW up to the screener....others at the drop off and yet others once you pull onto their property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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