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35 minutes ago, Father Kit Cool Gun Garth said:

Of course there is the...
Radio Flyer Wagon

 

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When I was a tyke I almost kilt myself to death a couple o' times in those things...!  :lol:

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Paddy Wagon:

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Station Wagon 

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Taco Wagon 

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Flea Wagon 

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I do miss my flea wagon!!

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The Conestoga sags in the middle!

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2 hours ago, Horace Patootie, SASS #35798 said:

What's the difference between the Conestoga and the Prairie Schooner ?

 

The main differences between prairie schooners and Conestoga wagons are their size, weight, and purpose:  

Weight

Conestoga wagons were much heavier than prairie schooners, with a minimum weight of 3,900 pounds, compared to the prairie schooner's 1,300 pounds when empty.  

Purpose

Conestoga wagons were designed to transport cargo, while prairie schooners were designed to transport passengers and their goods.  

Size

Conestoga wagons were much larger than prairie schooners, with a length of 17 feet and a height of 11 feet, compared to the prairie schooner's 14 feet long, 4 feet wide, and 2 feet deep.  

Here are some other differences between the two types of wagons:  

Shape

Conestoga wagons had a curved box shape, while prairie schooners had flat bottoms.  

Wheels

Conestoga wagons had huge, broad wheels, while prairie schooners had slightly smaller wheels in the front for better turning.  

Top

Conestoga wagons didn't have a waterproof top, while prairie schooners did.  

Pulling

Conestoga wagons were typically pulled by oxen, while prairie schooners were typically pulled by horses or mules

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I've read that the car company, Studebaker got their start building covered wagons, but I don't know if they built the Conestoga style freight wagons or the Prairie Schooners.

Fisher Coachworks that built passenger car bodies also got their start building horse drawn carriages. 

Their corporate logo contained the image of a carriage, and the legend " Body by Fisher" .

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Tumbleweed Wagon 

 

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They called them “tumbleweed wagons” because like their namesake, the Russian thistle, they seemed to wander aimlessly across the territory picking up bad guys and transporting them to more secure facilities.

A tumbleweed wagon was a jail on wheels used to take prisoners to a more permanent jail or prison.  Many of those small town jails weren’t secure enough to hold a hardened criminal for long.

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Choctaw Jack said:

I've read that the car company, Studebaker got their start building covered wagons, but I don't know if they built the Conestoga style freight wagons or the Prairie Schooners.

Fisher Coachworks that built passenger car bodies also got their start building horse drawn carriages. 

Their corporate logo contained the image of a carriage, and the legend " Body by Fisher" .

Studebaker also build carriages, wheel barrows, buggies, hand trucks, and I think I heard that they also made bicycles.  About 1919 or so they made an electric car that had a dozen or more three or four gallon glass cased wet cell batteries, a tiller in the place of a steering wheel and no brakes.  They just pulled the accelerator lever back and reversed the motor to stop.

 

My grandfather, who died many years before I was born had one.  Some of us cousins found it and found a book about it at the public library.  We bought lead sheets from a junk dealer and an uncle got us some acid and and sealing tar and  we got it running.

 

Grandma sold it to a collector in Salt Lake for about $100.00.

 

In 1923 all but two counties in Arizona bought gas powered Studebaker sedans for their Sheriff's Department. (the other two counties drove Packards.)

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38 minutes ago, JP McLintock said:

I had a 88, would go anywhere but past a gas station!

 

Yeah, that was the one downside of it. That 360 with lower ratio gearing was thirsty.

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1904 Oldsmobile Pie Wagon 

 

 

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When I worked for Jeep,

back in the late ‘70s, the Wagoneer Limited came with an optional 401 cu. in. AMC V8!

 

We sold a lot of ‘em!!  They were bad about rusting, so we had every one we sold sent out and given a ZIEBART treatment.  It added a couple hundred pounds to the weight of an already heavy vehicle!!

 

Those wagons NEEDED that engine to drive all the smog pumps and A/C units and drag that land barge around!

 

 

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You missed a great one common here in Old Montana, the Basque Sheep Wagon.  I have photos somewhere but probably better ones online.  I've actually thought of restoring one one with slightly improved amenities.  Family  / guests could enjoy remote, scenic areas of the ranch.

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