Deuce Stevens SASS#55996 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 5 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Reb Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) Thanks Deuce. That is what I needed to know. TR Edited January 29 by Tommy Reb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
July Smith Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Thanks for the follow up. Would be curious what Lassiters impressions are once he has a chance to go through yours. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Stevens SASS#55996 Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 30 minutes ago, July Smith said: Thanks for the follow up. Would be curious what Lassiters impressions are once he has a chance to go through yours. He’s not at all a social media guy but I will get a full rundown and do a follow up video once it’s done. 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 What's you opinion on the quality and fitting, compared to say what the Coyote Cap versions were? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Hunter SASS #20389L Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Steve, I have nothing to add other than, "you are a patient man". :-) Thanks for all you do! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Jorge Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Great reviews on the 1887. However, after the "Drop Two modification" is made, can the magazine still hold hold 5-6 shells? If not, it would seem that it would have to be set up for either the Cowboy shooting or for Wild Bunch shooting, to take full advantage of either state of the shotgun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 17 minutes ago, Don Jorge said: Great reviews on the 1887. However, after the "Drop Two modification" is made, can the magazine still hold hold 5-6 shells? If not, it would seem that it would have to be set up for either the Cowboy shooting or for Wild Bunch shooting, to take full advantage of either state of the shotgun. If the mod is like Coyote Cap's, yes you can still stoke it. Looking forward to handling one of these. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
July Smith Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 52 minutes ago, Don Jorge said: Great reviews on the 1887. However, after the "Drop Two modification" is made, can the magazine still hold hold 5-6 shells? If not, it would seem that it would have to be set up for either the Cowboy shooting or for Wild Bunch shooting, to take full advantage of either state of the shotgun. There are different methods to the "load 2/drop 2." I have been told by Lassiter that his method basically eliminates the mag tube, though will admit I have never handled a Lassiter modified gun. Coyote Caps version of the mod does still allow for the mag to be stoked, there is a cowboy gunsmith that took over his business though I do not remember his name, I got my IAC back from him shortly before Coyote Cap passed away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Stevens SASS#55996 Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, Don Jorge said: Great reviews on the 1887. However, after the "Drop Two modification" is made, can the magazine still hold hold 5-6 shells? If not, it would seem that it would have to be set up for either the Cowboy shooting or for Wild Bunch shooting, to take full advantage of either state of the shotgun. That’s entirely dependent on your level of commitment to practice with it. Dropping 2 is obviously better but there are other ways to shoot it competitively. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo Bill, SASS #4942 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 NOW! The next question is where can I get one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Lew Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 There are 12 listed on GunBroker right now all less than 600.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawnee Hills Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 26 minutes ago, Arkansas Lew said: There are 12 listed on GunBroker right now all less than 600.00 Minus 1 as of about 10 minutes ago. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Shawnee Hills said: Minus 1 as of about 10 minutes ago. Please post up a review with pictures, when you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawnee Hills Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Please post up a review with pictures, when you can. Will do but not sure when that’ll be. With my luck, it’ll come in next week when I’m out of town for work. I typically wait on things like this to see how the reviews are looking. Of course, by that time the item is no longer available. For better or worse, decided to just jump on this one. Pretty cheap way into an 87, it seems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rillito Red Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 My 06 Coyote Cap '87 did not allow loading the tube after Lassiters magic. You need to decide between drop two or having 5 or 6 rounds. The obvious answer is to buy two 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Stevens SASS#55996 Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 13 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Please post up a review with pictures, when you can. Just curious. How many reviews do you need to see before you deem it a viable gun? Are you then going to buy one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 9 minutes ago, Deuce Stevens SASS#55996 said: Just curious. How many reviews do you need to see before you deem it a viable gun? Are you then going to buy one? Just might. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawnee Hills Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 11 hours ago, Deuce Stevens SASS#55996 said: Just curious. How many reviews do you need to see before you deem it a viable gun? Are you then going to buy one? Yours was good enough for me. Been intrigued by the 87 for a while but unwilling to spend big $$ to have one. Your review and the cost was enough to push me off that fence. For those that might want another perspective, I’ll gladly offer my thoughts after I get it. However, if yer expecting a Deuce-style review you’d best prepare to be disappointed. I’m just not that talented. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cemetery Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Times like this where my wallet snaps closed, and won't let me open it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Well, we've got a couple coming to the shop. My wallet hopes I don't like it, but... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 On 1/30/2024 at 12:29 PM, Don Jorge said: Great reviews on the 1887. However, after the "Drop Two modification" is made, can the magazine still hold hold 5-6 shells? If not, it would seem that it would have to be set up for either the Cowboy shooting or for Wild Bunch shooting, to take full advantage of either state of the shotgun. As Deuce said, it depends on your level of commitment to practice. ‘87s have a steep learning curve. My Coyote Cap version allows stoking the tube, but requires a bit of finesse to load just two without pushing the carrier down too far. It can be done at competitive speeds, but the drop 2 only mod is more foolproof. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I have two 87s with Lassiter's mod. One I can load the mage tube it is am persistent and hold my mouth just right. I have yet found a way to load the mag tube in the other one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawnee Hills Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 So I've had my Cimarron 87 for a bit but work keeps getting in the way of my fun. Finally had a chance to take a close look at the thing and my non-shooting review follows. I won't be including any pictures because it looks just like the one Deuce reviewed. The fit and finish of the gun is very good. The metal appears to wear a parkerized finish and the wood is nicely fitted. It came coated with oil but not to the point of being obnoxious. Cycling of the action is suprisingly smooth. I'm sure that it could be slicked up better but it's really not too bad out of the box. I could just fit 5 of my handloaded dummy rounds in the tube with another 1 on the carrier for a total load of 6. The trigger pull was a pleasant 3 lbs. 2 oz. and was consistent across 5 readings. Trigger break was very good with very little creep. The trigger is not of 'precision rifle' quality but I wasn't expecting it to be. It IS a shotgun, after all. Ejection was a bit stout but it's my understanding that it is with 87s anyway. Still, I'm betting a little buff and fluff would make it better. For the money it cost, I'm happy with it. 1887s have always intrigued me but I've been unwilling to spend >1k for one. This offering allowed adding an 87 to the collection without the wallet screaming. It will probably see a match at some point but not one where I hope to be competitive. I'll stick with the doubles for those. Those interested in this are probably wondering if I have any regrets about the purchase and if I would do it again. The answers are "no" and "yes". Unless you're an 1887 purist, I suspect you'd be satisfied with one too. No, I don't have any affiliation with Cimarron or any Chicom business. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Already got mine on order with Barleycorn Outfitters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimstone Bill Willson Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 It is fairly smooth stock, but I did take it apart and found a fair amount of grit. I cleaned it out and did some minor polishing on the wear points and after reassembly, there was a noticeable improvement. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Nice video. But I will never understand why when the guns, 97 and 87, are made to hold 5, Wild Bunch insists on doing 6 round stages. It requires you to modify your gun, and that's just silly. That being said, do they make a long barrel (28 to 30 inches) version with a full choke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 minutes ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said: Nice video. But I will never understand why when the guns, 97 and 87, are made to hold 5, Wild Bunch insists on doing 6 round stages. It requires you to modify your gun, and that's just silly. That being said, do they make a long barrel (28 to 30 inches) version with a full choke? '87, 5 in mag tube, one on the carrier with action closed is 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 28 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: '87, 5 in mag tube, one on the carrier with action closed is 6 Without shorting the mag spring a little the reproduction 1887s will not hold 6 and allow hte bolt to close on an empty chamber. I have five 1887s, 3 IAC and 2 NORINCO. None would hold 6 without shortening the magazine spring. Edited February 19 by Sedalia Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said: Without shorting the mag spring a little the reproduction 1887s will not hold 6 and allow hte bolt to close on an empty chamber. I have five 1887s, 3 IAC and 2 NORINCO. None would hold 6 without shortening the magazine spring. Interesting, my stock 06 prefex would. It would take a bit of effort to close the bolt. No issues at all with our2 Coyote Cap built '87. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Nichols Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Just got mine in this weekend and went straight to work on trying to get it to hold 6. By the time I got it to hold 6 and close easily, the spring wasn't putting enough pressure on the follower to cycle the last shell. Ordered one of the extra power Wolf springs and cut it about the same length Deuce cut the spring he used in the above video. Works perfectly now loading 5 in the tube with one on the carrier. No failures with dummies or loaded rounds (safely checked of course) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) On 2/1/2024 at 5:44 AM, Sedalia Dave said: I have two 87s with Lassiter's mod. One I can load the mage tube it is am persistent and hold my mouth just right. I have yet found a way to load the mag tube in the other one. Do you have to hold your mouth another way to get them to feed? Actually that’s a straight up question. How do they feed? Edited February 22 by Abilene Slim SASS 81783 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 I know many of the 87's have a issue shooting the 2.3/4 shell . Once it's fired and the crimp opens up , it's to long and hangs up upon ejection. I hope these work better this time around. I have one coming from Barleycorn Outfitters right now . Rooster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 2 minutes ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said: I know many of the 87's have a issue shooting the 2.3/4 shell . Once it's fired and the crimp opens up , it's to long and hangs up upon ejection. I hope these work better this time around. I have one coming from Barleycorn Outfitters right now . Rooster Not my experience with a Coyote Cap gun. Gotta run that lever with authority. If you do, good things happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Nichols Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 6 minutes ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said: Not my experience with a Coyote Cap gun. Gotta run that lever with authority. If you do, good things happen. I found quickly this Cimarron needs to be ran with authority as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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