cajun bandit Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 best size spherical grinding stone to use,25mm or 30mm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oak creek martin Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Can you expound on what you are trying to accomplish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patagonia Pete Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 I did a very conservative job w/ a 25 (which only took the inside edges off) ... which was OK but I wanted it wider ... and needed something larger .. I couldn't find anything suitable so I used a wrapped golf ball .. (I wasn't brave enought to try anything cone shaped) ... Until I found a 40mm ball on Amazon ... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073XF6KBK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Jake Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 9 hours ago, Patagonia Pete said: I did a very conservative job w/ a 25 (which only took the inside edges off) ... which was OK but I wanted it wider ... and needed something larger .. I couldn't find anything suitable so I used a wrapped golf ball .. (I wasn't brave enought to try anything cone shaped) ... Until I found a 40mm ball on Amazon ... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073XF6KBK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I assumed the 40mm ball worked well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patagonia Pete Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 43 minutes ago, Diamond Jake said: I assumed the 40mm ball worked well? It worked well for me. Gave me a better angle to go wider w/o going too deep. I would have never went that big had it not been for fooling around with the golf ball. I think I have some photos .. hang on .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patagonia Pete Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 OK .. here you go ... Not the best quicky photos ... shows my dings and dirt .. hmmm ... but you get the idea 25/40 ... If you have a real cowboy shotgun gunsmith easily available I would use them. They have their routine down and proven/safe results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cajun bandit Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Patagonia Pete said: OK .. here you go ... Not the best quicky photos ... shows my dings and dirt .. hmmm ... but you get the idea 25/40 ... If you have a real cowboy shotgun gunsmith easily available I would use them. They have their routine down and proven/safe results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cajun bandit Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 thanks for the photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Keep in mind, once you "funnel" the breach, the shotgun is worthless to anyone but another CAS shooter. "Other" shotgunners will consider it "trashed." You also need to leave a fair portion of the cartridge rim shelf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Hangtree Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Best left to a professional, if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patagonia Pete Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Whatever you do ... don't mention the 18 inch barrel (to get rid of the built in chokes) or the 12 1/2 inch LOP ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Mark Flint #31954 LIFE Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 I used an oversized stone dressed to a shape that would work without removing any of the rim shelf. Just reshaped it with a second stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 The pic on the right looks like the rim shelf was removed. May cause head space issues and therefore FTF's in my humble opinion. I believe replacing the extractor will restore that issue however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patagonia Pete Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Eyesa Horg said: The pic on the right looks like the rim shelf was removed. May cause head space issues and therefore FTF's in my humble opinion. I believe replacing the extractor will restore that issue however. It may look that way (because of the poor lighting) but that is not the case at all. It has a 2006 serial number and I bought it off a cowboy swap table (Cowtown/Arizona) in 2008. If it ever fails to work I guess I will just send it back to Stoeger and ask for a replacement. Cowboy shotguns should last longer than that. I would think that most people understand that the rim of the shell has to sit somewhere ... or perhaps not. Just trying to respond to the OP topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Put empty hulls in the chambers to protect the rim contact area. Then use a Dremel VERY carefully to chamfer the exposed opening. You don’t have to remove much to achieve what you want; just break the sharp edge. Polish the ground surface with 600 grit sandpaper over your fingertip, and finish with 4-0 steel wool or Flitz metal polish. Or both. Then practice. Loading technique is actually more important than removing metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 On 8/24/2020 at 12:07 PM, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Keep in mind, once you "funnel" the breach, the shotgun is worthless to anyone but another CAS shooter. "Other" shotgunners will consider it "trashed." You also need to leave a fair portion of the cartridge rim shelf. When I first started investigating CAS I saw a bss that had been cowboyed . A 20ga bss was my first upland game gun when I was a kid “still have it” , I just couldn’t bring myself to do that to a bss . Told a couple of my grouse hunting buddies what’s happening to all the browning and skb sxs’s out there they don’t understand . Everyone one has different needs/uses guess that’s why I ended up with a Chiappa 87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdog Dago Dom Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 +1 to Buckshot Bob. About a month ago I walked into a pawn shop ans asked about any SKB SxS in stock. Clerk glanced up and saw my CAS t-shirt and said, "Let me guess what you are going to do with it." He then went through the entire CAS SxS shotgun modifications without taking a breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Cornelius Gilliam, SASS#5875TG Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 On 8/24/2020 at 2:55 PM, Patagonia Pete said: ... If it ever fails to work I guess I will just send it back to Stoeger and ask for a replacement. Cowboy shotguns should last longer than that. I would think that most people understand that the rim of the shell has to sit somewhere ... or perhaps not. Just trying to respond to the OP topic. The rim does have to sit somewhere, the problem is if that place moves deeper into the chamber due to funneling/grinding (removing the rim shelf), the head space increases and the firing pin can't engage the primer as deep, ie light hits on primer. I would never ask Stoeger (or any other manuf.) for a replacement of a funneled double barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patagonia Pete Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, Col. Cornelius Gilliam, SASS#5875TG said: I would never ask Stoeger (or any other manuf.) for a replacement of a funneled double barrel. Yeah ... but it's only 14 years old and I have only had it for 12!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 didnt it come with a lifetime warranty ? really , in the big scheme of things , all jesting aside , we modify to fit our needs and woe to those that wander in blind or without foresight , im considderin this modification but ill think on it a bit before i actually do it , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 8 hours ago, watab kid said: didnt it come with a lifetime warranty ? really , in the big scheme of things , all jesting aside , we modify to fit our needs and woe to those that wander in blind or without foresight , im considderin this modification but ill think on it a bit before i actually do it , It’s up to the manufacture but typically most modifications void the warranty, most manufacturers even state reloaded ammunition voids the warranty. I’m guessing that’s 90% of cowboy shooters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc X Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 On 8/27/2020 at 8:45 AM, Buckshot Bob said: It’s up to the manufacture but typically most modifications void the warranty, most manufacturers even state reloaded ammunition voids the warranty. I’m guessing that’s 90% of cowboy shooters Stoeger has been know to paint "unsafe to fire" on shotguns returned for repair that had CAS mods. I believe there was even a post on the wire about it. Ruger will remove lightened springs and return the gun to "stock." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Rings SASS # 27466 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 He was joking about returning it to the manufacturer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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