Sedalia Dave Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Brules Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 That was actually confusing, in that I saw no muzzle climb without the device, but I did see the rifle “climb” downward with the device installed. I noticed the narrator’s rather lazy safety handling of the rifle. I wouldn't want to be around him with a weapon in his hands. Cat abrules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry T Harrison Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 You do realize that he is using a remote camera setup and he is alone. I doubt that he will be able to hurt you through the computer even if he tried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Brules Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, Henry T Harrison said: You do realize that he is using a remote camera setup and he is alone. I doubt that he will be able to hurt you through the computer even if he tried ha ha, yuk yuk....... Even IF he was alone with a remote camera, doesn’t make careless gun handling acceptable. He sends a message with the video. HTH, don’t smart mouth me, deriding my intelligence. if you find his firearms handling acceptable, well, all I will say right now is I don’t. Cat Brules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 On that particular gun I wouldn’t bother with that device. Interesting concept. I would bet that works great on an AR or even an M1A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocWard Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 6 hours ago, Cat Brules said: That was actually confusing, in that I saw no muzzle climb without the device, but I did see the rifle “climb” downward with the device installed. I noticed the narrator’s rather lazy safety handling of the rifle. I wouldn't want to be around him with a weapon in his hands. Cat abrules You pretty much saw what he described, that it pushed the firearm downward. I didn't see anything I would consider "lazy safety handling." The muzzle end of the barrel was always downrange and he appeared to maintain control of the firearm through the presentation prior to firing. While his charging of the firearm and clearing it were awkward due to the fact that he is clearly left-handed, I can't say it appeared to be unsafe at any point. Perhaps you saw something I missed, but I watched the video with your comments about safety in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidekick Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 6 hours ago, Cat Brules said: That was actually confusing, in that I saw no muzzle climb without the device, but I did see the rifle “climb” downward with the device installed. I noticed the narrator’s rather lazy safety handling of the rifle. I wouldn't want to be around him with a weapon in his hands. Cat abrules What exactly was this lazy safety handling you are talking about? I watched the video and he kept the rifle pointed down range the whole time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I didn't notice any "lazy" handling. What I did notice is the barrel distortion or bending during firing with the device on. The rifle seemed to climb down more with the device on than it did climb up with the device off. I think that I would opt for no device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I also did not see any safety issues, but was amazed at how much the barrel flexed at the fore stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 I wondered how the rifle would have done if he had been shooting from the hip. I also wonder how it would have performed in the hands of underage conscripts that are common in conflicts in that part of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Seemed safe to me, but not a device I have any interest in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry T Harrison Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 7 hours ago, Cat Brules said: ha ha, yuk yuk....... Even IF he was alone with a remote camera, doesn’t make careless gun handling acceptable. He sends a message with the video. HTH, don’t smart mouth me, deriding my intelligence. if you find his firearms handling acceptable, well, all I will say right now is I don’t. Cat Brules And what exactly did you in your opinion find sloppy or unsafe? From the other posts no one else seems to see anything that unsafe. Please enlighten us. I’ll shoot with him anytime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoken D Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Not unsafe usage. I observed the gun to go up without, and downward with the device on. More downward than upward force. I'd shoot with him anytime unlike some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I don't have the time to comb Youtube for these videos, but love it when you share them. Gives me an opportunity to watch the videos that interest me. Thanks for sahring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Well a miss low is better than a miss high I reckon. I recall an account of a Union infantry company being told by their 1st Sgt to aim at the feet of the enemy troops. As a veteran, he knew green troops almost always fired high under the stress of combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Personally, I really liked the M-14 and hated the transition to the Mattel Toy. That device could have a real home on the M-14 under full auto. The m-14 was a real bear running on Rock-n-Roll. I didn't see any unsafe gun handling. Thought he did quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I got to shoot an Aussie version of the FAL. Right fine weapon right out of the box. I also used a select fire M-14 at Fort Lee, VA and it is nearly uncontrollable on full-auto and I didn't care for it on semi-auto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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