GPG Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Hello from the northern Great Plains, I am considering a pair of 7.5" Richard Mason conversions of the 1851 navy variety-this is of course the fault of Jedi Knight and his YouTube channel..... When looking around for these I find them called straight up 1851 navy conversions to 1872 models. Of course the Pietta or Uberti question also. I would like to have a pair as close to the feel of my 1851 navy colts. I am certain the folks here would be able to shine some light on this model of revolver. thanks in advance GPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Pietta does not make conversion guns, Uberti is your only option here unless you buy conversion cylinders and convert the Piettas yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPG Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 Thanks Tyrel good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkey Flats Jack Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 keep in mind the richard mason conversions still use the rear sight notch on the hammer. they tend to shoot high unless you have the front sight modified. I've also found it difficult for quick sight acquisition. On the upside they have a great natural point of aim IMO and I rarely use the rear sight anyways on a 51. But if you want to use the sights and find that hammer notch difficult you may want to consider the cimarron man with no name (the one without the snake grip) it has a rear sight on the back of the barrel. I think I gave $480 each out the door at my local shop when he ordered them for me. https://www.cimarron-firearms.com/man-with-no-name-conversion-38-colt-s-w-special-7-1-2-no-inlay.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 YEP. Cimarron is the only game in town for Richards/Mason Navy conversions. Nice guns. Just remember, you will have to correct the abysmal Barrel to Arbor fit for them to run right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkey Flats Jack Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 YEP. Cimarron is the only game in town for Richards/Mason Navy conversions. Nice guns. Just remember, you will have to correct the abysmal Barrel to Arbor fit for them to run right. Taylors has them also. both are uberti though. I musta got lucky on the pair I got the wife. Havent had an issue with how they run yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramblin Randy Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Taylors has them also. both are uberti though. I musta got lucky on the pair I got the wife. Havent had an issue with how they run yet. https://www.taylorsfirearms.com/hand-guns/cartridge-revolvers/c-mason-revolver/c-mason-revolver-1851-navy.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Sin Nombre Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 The beauty of the 71/72 open tops is that they can be had in any of the offered calibers with either the Navy or Army grips. I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the RM's are only available in 38 with the Navy grip and 44/45 with the Army grip. The navy version also has the octagon barrels. If I shot 38 I would be all of them, as they handle really well and have almost no recoil with those heavy barrels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waimea Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Great guns for shooting Outlaw. I have two pair. 7 1/2 and 5 1/2 inch barrels. I like the bb front sight. I had one with a blade sight and round barrel but didn't like it as much. Different model too I suspect. Waimea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I've acquired a 3rd one since the photo session - gotta have an identical backup ya know. All .38 spl of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 The beauty of the 71/72 open tops is that they can be had in any of the offered calibers with either the Navy or Army grips. I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the RM's are only available in 38 with the Navy grip and 44/45 with the Army grip. The navy version also has the octagon barrels. If I shot 38 I would be all of them, as they handle really well and have almost no recoil with those heavy barrels. This is my 71/72 Open Tops Army's in 44 Special with a 66 in 44 Special too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black RZR Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 A true looking 51 conversion. Would be the cimarron man with no name. It still has the ball ram attached to it. It's a slow process ejecting but it looks great. I own one for fun shooting at home. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black RZR Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 On a related subject, I just picked up a 58 rem conversion in 45 LC... probably my new favorite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black RZR Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Yeah it's the 5.5's . I didn't want those 8" Cannon's . I'm working on a second one to shoot gun fighter with... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45 Dragoon Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Those Remi fact. conversions are really sweet revolvers!! I had one in the shop a few months back. Nice choice !! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkey Flats Jack Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 A true looking 51 conversion. Would be the cimarron man with no name. It still has the ball ram attached to it. It's a slow process ejecting but it looks great. I own one for fun shooting at home. I love it. It really doesnt take any extra time to eject the spent cases. the end of the plunger pulls off and is a punch for unloading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black RZR Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Yeah I'm loving my new 58' hope to be ordering the second in next couple weeks..my only thing is the hammer is little high and stiff to pull with one hand. Anybody know of after market options. I sure wolf has springs. Lower hammer available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Clark Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 So who are the Open Top / Richards Mason / Richards shooters getting parts from these days? VTI is continually out of stock or back ordered which is frustrating! Its time to tune up and correct some items with my two Richards Army 5.5" in 45 Scofield, and most of the parts for the Uberti guns are back ordered etc! I'm not knocking the Uberti quality, my guns were used when I bought them on the wire, and I've shot them in matches for a few years on top of that. They've actually performed well IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 So who are the Open Top / Richards Mason / Richards shooters getting parts from these days? VTI is continually out of stock or back ordered... Cimarron and Taylors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Captain Clark Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Abilene said: Cimarron and Taylors. Taylors helped out today and had some parts but no hammers, much like the other suppliers. They all mention that they have to wait around until Uberti sends a shipment, and even then its a hit or miss situation on what arrives. Seems they are backordered everywhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tame Bill #30699 Life Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 +1 for Taylor's... I have 4 pair of the '51 Navy R-M conversions and Taylor's has consistently provided whatever parts I have required. That being said, I have had little to no issues with these revolver thanks to Bob Munden and now Jeff Ault's action work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WymoreWrangler SASS 46187L Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 I have now a pair of 1860 Army's in my collection, 4 3/4 inch barrels in 38 special... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E.B. Rawton Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 YEP. Cimarron is the only game in town for Richards/Mason Navy conversions. Nice guns. Just remember, you will have to correct the abysmal Barrel to Arbor fit for them to run right. I‘ve spent a lot of time shooting the man with no name version in a .38. Have used both smokeless and black powder loads. The factory conversion does not appear to have cylinder pin to barrel fit problem and the added ring on the leaving side of the cylinder helps reduce fouling issues. Can shoot an entire match with black and have no need to break down for cleaning in between stages. If I wasn’t going all c&b I’d get anothern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Sin Nombre Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 +1 for Taylor's... I have 4 pair of the '51 Navy R-M conversions and Taylor's has consistently provided whatever parts I have required. That being said, I have had little to no issues with these revolver thanks to Bob Munden and now Jeff Ault's action work. Nice. Who did the engraving? I‘ve spent a lot of time shooting the man with no name version in a .38. Have used both smokeless and black powder loads. The factory conversion does not appear to have cylinder pin to barrel fit problem and the added ring on the leaving side of the cylinder helps reduce fouling issues. Can shoot an entire match with black and have no need to break down for cleaning in between stages. If I wasn’t going all c&b I’d get anothern. Want to sell yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tame Bill #30699 Life Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Kelly Laster did the engraving... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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